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RANDOLPH DUKE THE AGS LOVE YOU

RD this is good right, i mean i have waited too long for a good aggy beating. Its been a long 6 hours since the last one.
I honestly don't know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, nor should I, but I have a really fine cigar in the humidor and I think its days are numbered.

I know what the individuals have to work with and I don't expect them to pull many punches.

I can say this, I expect it to dwarf the WSJ article.

 
Lol i was there and i witnessed the great aggy meltdown of 2016 NSD. It was grand!!!

The latest beatdown that i was refering to was aggy thinking they had brink only for him to spurn them and stay with us.

If they lose or give up there "12th man" trademark then i will be able to gloat over this victory till the end of time.

 
Lol i was there and i witnessed the great aggy meltdown of 2016 NSD. It was grand!!!

The latest beatdown that i was refering to was aggy thinking they had brink only for him to spurn them and stay with us.

If they lose or give up there "12th man" trademark then i will be able to gloat over this victory till the end of time.
If they lose their trademark, don't gloat. Use it as an example of what happens when you get caught doing deceitful things.

aggy had a tradition of calling their fans in the stands the team's "12th Man." It dated back to at least 1921 and was a tradition also practiced by hundreds of other schools. In 1939, the head of their alumni association was asked to write a radio play about some aspect of their football game and they chose the 1922 post season game they played. The radio play glamorized a player who had left the team earlier in the year to play basketball. When the guy came down from the press box, no one thought anything of it, because conference eligibility rules were not yet in place and the individual as a student at the school.

The guy stood among 9 other available substitutes. Even if the team has played with fewer than 11 players, it wouldn't have been novel or unprecedented. In the 1894 Harvard-Yale game, Harvard finished the game with just 8 players, due to injuries.

Some time after the radio play, the school began to conflate what really happened with the story as told in the radio play. In 1962, the school first associated E. King Gill with their 12th man tradition in a school yearbook. Over time, the school entirely represented the fictionalized radio play version as fact. they crossed the line when they falsely attested to the radio play version as fact in their filing with the USPTO. In November, they represented the radio play version of events in a federal court filing against the Indianapolis Colts.

And now, hopefully, the school officials will get to very publicly explain their actions. And I believe they won't be able to. Had the school been honest about their tradition, everything would have been fine. But they lied.

If this happens, the story should be that public employees should be ethical and honest. Public university administrators should have integrity. I think this will eclipse the Ross Margraves clusterf##k. 

In some ways, I can't believe they were so stupid as to get themselves into such a stupid situation. Then again, this is what happens when public employees have a greater loyalty to themselves than to the people they are supposed to serve.

 
I feel like Chris Hansen should be the one to sit down and explain the court findings to the public. 

Great history lesson RD. I have read a few other post of yours on the topic, but that helped filled in the gaps.

Im still going to gloat. 

 
Had the school been honest about their tradition, everything would have been fine. But they lied.

Must be a mistake. Everyone knows aggy doesn't lie, cheat or steal or tolerates those that do.

 
Must be a mistake. Everyone knows aggy doesn't lie, cheat or steal or tolerates those that do.
Supposedly every aggy, from John Sharp on down, knows the history of their school. So, by inference, we can assume that if and when they falsely state the history of their school it was done intentionally.

I look forward when we finally understand just how many senior aggy administrators have long known about the fraudulent scam that is the school's 12th Man trademark.

 
Duke,

Could a possible loss of their trademark have ramifications on their settlement with the Seattle Seahawks from several years back? 

 
Duke,

Could a possible loss of their trademark have ramifications on their settlement with the Seattle Seahawks from several years back? 
What is about to come out in the next few days could, but the question is whether the Seahawks feel it is worth their while to chase the aggys over $150k (trebled potentially). The Seahawk settlement seems to be small in the grand scheme of things.

What seems to be material is if the school is recognized to have fraudulently obtained the trademark (even without litigation), they should be obligated to disgorge the almost three decades of trademark licensing revenue they have garnered from the fraudulent trademark. This, at a time their debt service on the stadium is about to go to $22 million.

Also, John Sharp and the rest of their BOR are going to be called to account for the fraud. Someone approved the litigation against the Colts. That person has to go. The school has to make amends with Chuckie Sonntag and the others they bullied over the trademark.

This rightfully should be very ugly for TAMU.

 
Thanks.  I think the whole thing is hilarious.  Everyone around Texas sites knew when they started all of this copyright BS over the 12th man that it was a joke.  I'll go make some popcorn and watch the fireworks.  :D

 
Thanks.  I think the whole thing is hilarious.  Everyone around Texas sites knew when they started all of this copyright BS over the 12th man that it was a joke.  I'll go make some popcorn and watch the fireworks.  :D
Get your popcorn. This one is going to be good. I am confident my research will be fully vetted by legal and the writer will be honest. I also believe the writer will speak from a high enough platform that the story can't be ignored.

I am convinced Texas A&M fraudulently obtained their trademark for the phrase "12th Man" and they have filed a materially fraudulent pleading before a federal court.

I believe all hell is about to break loose. And, although I may be wrong, I believe wheels are in motion that TAMU can't stop. I believe the shit is about to hit the fan. And, if it doesn't, I believe the follow-up to the story will answer any questions the university tries to throw out as a defense.

I am pretty sure this is a story of corruption by public employees that is about to blow up. Like I said, grab your popcorn.

 
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Get your popcorn. This one is going to be good. I am confident my research will be fully vetted by legal and the writer will be honest. I also believe the writer will speak from a high enough platform that the story can't be ignored.

I am convinced Texas A&M fraudulently obtained their trademark for the phrase "12th Man" and they have filed a materially fraudulent pleading before a federal court.

I believe all hell is about to break loose. And, although I may be wrong, I believe wheels are in motion that TAMU can't stop. I believe the shit is about to hit the fan. And, if it doesn't, I believe the follow-up to the story will answer any questions the university tries to throw out as a defense.

I am pretty sure this is a story of corruption by public employees that is about to blow up. Like I said, grab your popcorn.
I assume that a national publication is about to do story on all this? 

 
I assume that a national publication is about to do story on all this?
Makes you wonder why Texas Monthly isn't doing something. Imagine having someone scoop a story that happened in your backyard.

 
Houston Chronicle reports lawsuit is settled...no details released...

http://www.chron.com/sports/aggies/article/Texas-A-M-NFL-s-Colts-settle-12th-Man-6837887.php

"In a statement issued Wednesday, A&M officials said the lawsuit "has been settled amicably and with good will." A&M spokesman Shane Hinckley said school officials would have no other comment and no details were available on the terms of the agreement. A Colts spokesman didn't return a message seeking comment."
If there had been a financial settlement, the university would have broadcast it far and wide as a validation of their trademark and a message to other possible infringers.

If the university administrators had an ounce of integrity, they would release the terms of the agreement immediately. What are they hiding?

 
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With the information the Colts had, there was no way in hell they were going to pay a dime to the university and the attorneys for the Colts know that by the time the season rolls around this fall, the trademark will be invalidated.

 
RD,

So how does the trademark get invalidated?  Is something filed with the trademark office or does that office initiate the process by itself?  Just curious about the process.

 
RD,

So how does the trademark get invalidated?  Is something filed with the trademark office or does that office initiate the process by itself?  Just curious about the process.
The easiest way is when the school knows it can't defend the trademark against any infringement. I am sure by now the school knows if they ever file against another supposed infringer, the defendant will have all the information they need to prove the university's claims regarding the "tradition" are not truthful.

If you haven't read the original Horns Sports article from 2013, read it.

I have said since I put the 2013 article together that if the university ever filed suit to defend the trademark, they would lose the trademark and I'm rather convinced that is just what has happened.

 
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I have said since I put the 2013 article together that if the university ever filed suit to defend the trademark, they would lose the trademark and I'm rather convinced that is just what has happened.
Then why would the Colts stop using aggy's trademarks immediately? Does Rovell have his facts straight?

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