Mizzou Player Strike Raises Fascinating Questions

[J.B. TexasEx]

Most of y'all know I'm not a Clay Travis fan nor do I read his SEC-centric "Outkick the Coverage" blog regularly. But, he does raise some interesting questions about Mizzou's misguided football players' strike. Needless to say, I'm glad these fools are no longer Big12 members!

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/mizzou-player-strike-raises-fascinating-questions-110815

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[joeywa]

The entire situation should be an embarrassment to the University of Missouri.  What a joke. 

 

[dillohorn]

I'd have taken the 30 scholarships away the first practice/game they missed. What a joke Misery is now. Tail wagging the dog.

 

[Grandpa Zorro]

The Houston Chronicle is reporting the president resigned...

http://www.chron.com/news/article/University-of-Missouri-protests-grow-after-6618861.php

 

[Godz40acres]

The Houston Chronicle is reporting the president resigned...

http://www.chron.com/news/article/University-of-Missouri-protests-grow-after-6618861.php

Great. Way to go, prez and board. You just set a precedent that can have nothing but negative ramifications for all schools.

Thanks for the coming chaos.

 

[MikeV73]

Most of y'all know I'm not a Clay Travis fan nor do I read his SEC-centric "Outkick the Coverage" blog regularly. But, he does raise some interesting questions about Mizzou's misguided football players' strike. Needless to say, I'm glad these fools are no longer Big12 members!

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/mizzou-player-strike-raises-fascinating-questions-110815

— Twitter API (@twitterapi) https://twitter.com/JBTexasEx/status/663530064869355520" data-datetime="2011-11-07T20:21:07+00:00">November 7, 2011

This entire situation has been declared a win for the Aggies because Mizz is SEC.

 

[Johnstark23]

This entire situation has been declared a win for the Aggies because Mizz is SEC.

The irony of the situation is, Old Bowtie Loftin is/was chancellor of Missouri-Columbia. By the way he got shown the door also today. So Aggy, the can F@#K anything up.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Great. Way to go, prez and board. You just set a precedent that can have nothing but negative ramifications for all schools.

Thanks for the coming chaos.

Agree, big time. This does set a dangerous precedent. What will the mob want next?

I'm with DilloHorn, I would have played the game without those players if those chose to sit out. I would have recruited a bunch of players from the student body and played them.

Pinkel is responsible for the football product on the field, ultimately. Pinkel should have seen to it a product was ready to be put on the field. I get the whole "he had no choice' BS as far as what he's said, but seriously, that's just more of the same coddling that has gotten us to this pathetic point in the first place.

It's a tactic kids have employed for thousands of years. When you don't get what you want, act out until you do. Strange how we've suddenly forgotten how to deal with that approach. Perhaps more scary than strange.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Agree, big time. This does set a dangerous precedent. What will the mob want next?

I'm with DilloHorn, I would have played the game without those players if those chose to sit out. I would have recruited a bunch of players from the student body and played them.

Pinkel is responsible for the football product on the field, ultimately. Pinkel should have seen to it a product was ready to be put on the field. I get the whole "he had no choice' BS as far as what he's said, but seriously, that's just more of the same coddling that has gotten us to this pathetic point in the first place.

It's a tactic kids have employed for thousands of years. When you don't get what you want, act out until you do. Strange how we've suddenly forgotten how to deal with that approach. Perhaps more scary than strange.

Oh, it's more scary than strange.

If Pinkel were a man of principle, he would've suspended all players who skipped practice for one game. Dismiss those who choose to skip a 2nd practice. Would it hurt Mizzou's on-field product? That's debatable

 

[DMAC]

The student athletes are not employees, so its breach of contract and pull their scholarships.  We know in this day and age of "I have a right not to be offended ever" liberal society and media that wont happen.  

Clay Travis is moron but he did nail this subject.

The list of demands by the protesters wasn't racial discrimination in any way whatsoever?  SMH

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mizzou-football/heres-list-demands-mizzous-protesting-athletes-students/

#5.  We demand that by the academic year 2017-18, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff members campus-wide by 10 percent.

How is this not considered racism in itself?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

How is this not considered racism in itself?

#LibLogic

 

[Chris Flanagan]

Agree, big time. This does set a dangerous precedent. What will the mob want next?

I'm with DilloHorn, I would have played the game without those players if those chose to sit out. I would have recruited a bunch of players from the student body and played them.

Pinkel is responsible for the football product on the field, ultimately. Pinkel should have seen to it a product was ready to be put on the field. I get the whole "he had no choice' BS as far as what he's said, but seriously, that's just more of the same coddling that has gotten us to this pathetic point in the first place.

It's a tactic kids have employed for thousands of years. When you don't get what you want, act out until you do. Strange how we've suddenly forgotten how to deal with that approach. Perhaps more scary than strange.

Or they are not kids, but adults protesting the injustices on campus for years. 3 public incidents in 6 weeks, multiple racial incidents that were never made public for years, and a lack of response from the administration. 

Yes, I am a Mizzou alumni. Yes I also go to Mizzou law. But think of the recruiting ramifications for Mizzou if your coach says that we won't support our black players and what they feel is right. This semester has been a whirlwind of racism and BS from Admin. Loftin messed up a lot here on campus. 

I support the players on this. Want the university to take you seriously? Take away the money. 

 

[BevoBlake]

All of the liberal bashing in this thread seems unnecessary. Just my opinion.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

All of the liberal bashing in this thread seems unnecessary. Just my opinion.

No, what's not necessary is to bring politics to this board. And I say that even though I can bash liberals with the best of them 

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I see many still prefer the Black guy to just sit down in the corner and take it.  I also find it interesting that someone commits an act of racism and those affected by it stand up against it yet they somehow are the problem not the actual person who originally committed the racist act. 

 

[joeywa]

I see many still prefer the Black guy to just sit down in the corner and take it.  I also find it interesting that someone commits an act of racism and those affected by it stand up against it yet they somehow are the problem not the actual person who originally committed the racist act. 

I don't think that I fall into the "sit & take it camp." 

I think if the University had handled things correctly with the earlier, instead of waiting for tensions to escalate to this level, the president wouldn't have had to step down.  There would have been no hunger strike.  There would have been no walk-out by athletes.  The unrest on the campus would have been quelled. 

The fact that this escalated to the level where the University president had to step down is a flat out embarrassment to the school. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Or they are not kids, but adults protesting the injustices on campus for years. 3 public incidents in 6 weeks, multiple racial incidents that were never made public for years, and a lack of response from the administration. 

Yes, I am a Mizzou alumni. Yes I also go to Mizzou law. But think of the recruiting ramifications for Mizzou if your coach says that we won't support our black players and what they feel is right. This semester has been a whirlwind of racism and BS from Admin. Loftin messed up a lot here on campus. 

I support the players on this. Want the university to take you seriously? Take away the money. 

Call me naive if you will, but shouldn't a Jew be more offended by a swastika than a black?

The other two were shouts from a distance?

I'm sorry, but I think Mizzou has managed to blow something to titanic size that likely deserves a canoe. What on earth is the president of the school expected to do about random shouts of derogatory language? Two of them. Put an end to freedom of speech in a place where free speech, opinion and ideas are supposed to be embraced? If derogatory language is not protected, then you don't have freedom of speech. You have freedom of some speech.

Why is it on the football coach to support students over something TOTALLY unrelated to football? Let's be serious, the ONLY reason is because Pinkel doesn't want 2/3s of his team to walk. And that's a problem for Pinkel because those players now drive his bus and call the shots. And he lays down for it. I think this is a huge mistake.

Instead, Pinkel missed a huge opportunity to cast some common sense on the situation and lead those young adults to rise above. By contrast, what we see is that an entire college football program can be brought to its knees by two ignorant, bigoted idiots who happened to be heard on campus.

And that, Chris, is an utter shame.

You say this has gone on for years and you're not the first to say that. Yet, to my knowledge and including your post, none of those past incidents through the "years" has even been brought up in connection with this. So far, it's just an accusation that seems to accompany the three incidents thing of today. Why? Are we just supposed to take this on faith?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I see many still prefer the Black guy to just sit down in the corner and take it.  I also find it interesting that someone commits an act of racism and those affected by it stand up against it yet they somehow are the problem not the actual person who originally committed the racist act. 

No, I expect the Black guy to be bigger than a racial slur shouted from a distance. The Black guy has become the story. We have no idea who the racist was because the story has been hijacked.

If we can't be bigger than that, then we're going to face a circus like this more and more and more.

Since you brought it up, who is the person (singular, really?) who committed the racist act? What was the racist act?

We're seriously going to shut down a college football program over a racist act (TBNL) that happened on campus? With 30K+ human beings in one place, we don't expect a handful of them to be "out there" in their views?

Black guys don't need to sit and take anything. But this could have been handled far better without casting the black members of the football team into the limelight (essentially stealing the story). And it didn't have to be done by the president of the school. Why not Pinkel? Why not the hoops coach? Why not the student body president? Why not the fraternities on campus? So we're going to pin it on one guy when no one else was willing to take the lead?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I'll end with this.

I sort of speak from experience on this issue. Except on a smaller scale. However, I think the logic and wisdom apply anywhere and at any size.

I went to school in East Texas. My town's population was about 60-40 white/black. We lived in harmony for the most part, as a community. However, during my junior year some racial tensions heightened as a result of some white ag students mixing it up with a group of black students. Day by day things started spiraling out of control. Members of the football team, both black and white, felt like we were on an island, like we were the only place where white and black made it work.

As things got heated, a coach pulled me aside and talked to me on the down-low. He was a black coach, and one I was already close with. I found his words to be an oasis of hope amidst a desert of hate.

He said to me "Mark, you and your team mates are a group of people that this entire school looks up to. You guys are the center of this universe. Imagine the impact you can have, as a group, if you were to step forward together and put an end to this through your unity. Show them how it's supposed to be."

From there, I pulled a few team mates aside and then we met as a group. We set an example as a group before, but we made it a point to stand out TOGETHER. And individually we stepped in where we saw discrimination manifesting among the students. We forced that entire situation into a totally different direction. It was truly a beautiful thing to be a part of.

To this day I would drop anything and everything if any member of that team calls me and asks for help. What we did brought us together, and it brought the school together and helped the healing begin. We didn't sit around and blame a principal for not playing cop. We took matters in our own hands. Thankfully, there was a wise, wise man watching who saw opportunity and jumped on it. I love that man. Gary Pinkel could learn a thing or two from him.