Mcphaul!!

[LongviewLobo01]

If Alabama just struggled against the one dimension offense of Auburn how would they have fared against the dual threat of Jameis Winston and the FSU offense?

I think right now FSU would have beaten Alabama head to head had auburn not done it Saturday.

 

[McQ]

Whise, you're absolutely right. They always have a built in excuse. I cant wait to hear the bammers at work use the sec excuse on monday.

 

[SlickStreet]

Is their a top 5 level college football job where the school gives total authority to the AD to hire and fire it's football coach? I just don't think Texas is alone in that aspect. Be it USC, tOSU,bama etc. I think they all have major input from big donors, regents, president etc. There are search committees and several people involved in the process besides one person
This isn't about Patterson somehow being incompetent. Deloss didnt hire mack brown by himself either. Pat Hayden won't hire usc's coach all by himself with no outside input that has considerable weight

this

 

[doc longhorn]

I am more than on the record for being against the manner in which the supposed head coach search committee has been conducting its activities.
I am very much against individuals not accountable to the university hiring the highest paid state employee without any transparentcy. If things fall apart and all has been for naught, who is willing to be held accountable for failing to hire a top replacement for Mack?

I stand on my earlier comments that if Steve Patterson is so incompetent that he can't be allowed to hire his direct reports, he shouldn't be AD. As each day passes by, I get the feeling more and more that a bunch of big money amateurs are about to massively fu@k up our football program by promising big things, delivering jack squat and not being held accountable for the damage they have caused.

I'm just speaking my mind, which is more than any of the big money guys have been willing to do. What insanity is it that allows the highest paid state employee to be hired by people who aren't accountable to anyone and who aren't interested in stooping so low as to speak about the matter to the commoners.

Someone needs to step into this process and represent the people who ultimately are the ones the incompents (Patterson) are accountable to - the alumni and the taxpayers. The thought that we need to shut up, sit in the back of the bus and let our betters run a $200 million asset belonging to the taxpayers and not have any say in the matter is insane.

Exactly and this has always been my biggest concern. How is it that individuals, that make a lot of money, are running our beloved university? And I don't mean just the athletic dept.'s. The only conclusion I can come to is it is a public university, supported by politicians who are dancing on the BMD's purse strings. It has ever been this way, and I hate it, but I see no end to it, frankly.

I would hope that Patterson has told them - "If I am going to be held accountable for the operations of athletics, then I want control over the people that run it".

 

[Mulligan30]

I don't know of any scenario where a guy has sole authority in the hiring of someone who will make 5 times more than him.

 

[TheContractor]

The only way to end that is for someone to face an SEC team in the BCS title game and whip them. The SEC excuse this year will be they were so tough they took each other out and Alabama/Auburn would beat FSU/Ohio State by 30 points.

You are right. Sec will always have an excuse. When they win they say, "look our conference is soo hard to get through and 1 team did so they were ready to beat anyone for the title." They beat each other and say, "look our conference is so good we beat each other up and thats why we didnt get to the title game, if we were there we would have beaten anyone."

a few weeks ago, when Lsu lost to Ole Miss and Aggie lost to Auburn and Mizzou beat a ranked Florida a Sec friend of my say, "what a crazy weekend in the sec, we just beat ourselves up."

that perception will take time to change. the media BS over this is crazy and they(espn) promotes it. It will take regular season wins vs them (like Tcu over Lsu in first game) and bowl games wins (like cotton and capital 1) and also ending the BS title hold that they have(I feel OK st should have played in 2011 and Texas >Florida in 2008). Remember that year when a 11-1 Texas Tech that tied for Big 12 south title and the reason Texas didnt go to MNC game got their ass handed to them in Cotton by Ole Freeken Miss. That cant happen.

Ok St(11-1 with win over Ou) can say they beat better teams then both Mizzou and Auburn. 9 win Ou and 10 or 11 win Baylor, 8 or 9 win Texas. But they wont be considered bc Sec is perceived to be better. Mich St with win over tOsu will be 12-1 and is just as good as Mizzou and Auburn.

 

[Embrey]

I agree with the last part about Michigan State. I believe they will beat tOSU straight up with that defense.

 

[HookemDTX]

McPhaul, Any chance Mack announces tomorrow?

 

[Randolph Duke]

I don't know of any scenario where a guy has sole authority in the hiring of someone who will make 5 times more than him.

I have a tough time thinking of a successful professional sports team where the general manager doesn't routinely hire players that make 5 times more than the professional staff making hiring decisions.

I'm just wondering why Patterson is making $1 mil+ yet his most important hiring decision is being made by a mysterious committee whose members aren't named publicly and who aren't accountable to the people writing the paycheck for the person hired. I very much believe people should be accountable for their decisions, but in this instance we are being told we haven't paid enough money to be entitled to any information into what is going on with the hiring of the highest paid public employee in the state.

If Saban doesn't end up coming to the 40 acres, who will bear responsibility and be removed from the hiring committee? Obviously no one, because those hiring our coach aren't accountable. We talk about accountability for the players and coaches. Where does accountability disappear?

The only way we are going to have a successful program is to have decision making in the hands of professionals who are accountable for their descisions. Selling our program to people who aren't going to be removed from the process when their judgement or capabilities aren't up to the task is a recipe for disaster.

A number of mysterious people involved with the process have promised us Nick Saban. If it doesn't happen, they need to be identified and removed from the process so other people can take their shot at putting their credibility on the line to drive the program forward.

I want competent people making decisions, not rich people.

 

[Darrell McPhaul]

McPhaul, Any chance Mack announces tomorrow?

I have not heard that?

 

[Lord Vader]

McPhaul, Any chance Mack announces tomorrow?

I'll be covering the presser online tomorrow. Guess if the feed fires up and Patterson is there you know whats up.

Lobo/Contractor/Mc Q - Agree with all you guys said, and I too believe FSU and Winston was going to be the ones who slayed the beast so to speak.

 

[DizzG]

I have a tough time thinking of a successful professional sports team where the general manager doesn't routinely hire players that make 5 times more than the professional staff making hiring decisions.
I'm just wondering why Patterson is making $1 mil+ yet his most important hiring decision is being made by a mysterious committee whose members aren't named publicly and who aren't accountable to the people writing the paycheck for the person hired. I very much believe people should be accountable for their decisions, but in this instance we are being told we haven't paid enough money to be entitled to any information into what is going on with the hiring of the highest paid public employee in the state.

If Saban doesn't end up coming to the 40 acres, who will bear responsibility and be removed from the hiring committee? Obviously no one, because those hiring our coach aren't accountable. We talk about accountability for the players and coaches. Where does accountability disappear?

The only way we are going to have a successful program is to have decision making in the hands of professionals who are accountable for their descisions. Selling our program to people who aren't going to be removed from the process when their judgement or capabilities aren't up to the task is a recipe for disaster.

A number of mysterious people involved with the process have promised us Nick Saban. If it doesn't happen, they need to be identified and removed from the process so other people can take their shot at putting their credibility on the line to drive the program forward.

I want competent people making decisions, not rich people.

It's Simply not realistic in today's college football world to think the hiring process would not only be totally transparent but that supporters who gives millions and millions to the program and often pay for coaching buyouts or even salary would have no major input in the process or any BOR member, university president, etc. I get what you are saying but I can't think of one big time program who would turn the keys over to one single guy without any other influence In terms of the football program head coaching hire when millions of dollars are on the line by its impact on the school. Most of the people involved are not secret as many were involved in the AD hire but college football hires are often mostly handled behind the scenes, back channels to agents, etc until it's actually time to officially interview and ink the hire. The days of nothing going on until an AD asks permission to speak to someone and it's all some big formal process is long gone. I get where you are coming from but I just don't think that's ever going to happen as it's not the way the sport currently works for the big time programs

I also don't think anyone has "promised" us saban. Is insiders talking about what they are hearing UT is doing behind the scenes to get him and that people directly involved think there is a real solid chance he's coming mean we've been promised by these people he's coming? How? I just don't see how that's the case. No one involved with UT has promised us anything in regard to saban or any other potential coach. Insiders talking about what they are hearing is going on is one thing but how has this group promises?

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I am just ready for it all to be over.

 

[mhsjames]

There's no named committee because the job isn't officially vacant yet.

 

[DizzG]

I have not heard that?

Dunno what's going on but casis (who usually doesn't just throw stuff out) on OB apparently has mentioned there is some chatter going on about something going down tomorrow.

JS on IT got no commented by one of his sources in the presidents office when asked about a mack announcement tomorrow.

Could be nothing. Could be something. Who knows.

 

[Lord Vader]

Very interesting. Id like to see anything instead of the rehashed mess we've gotten the last couple weeks.

He was able to escape after BYU by executing Diaz

He was able to escape after Ole Miss by using the New QB/New DC excuse

He was able to escape after Oklahoma State because of the bye week

And as of now there is no presser scheduled after this morning, so if we get thumped by Baylor we wouldnt see him again (retirement announcement dependent) until a bowl game presser.

 

[palmettohorn]

Hey Guys,
Like SG mentioned, we spoke about the scenarios the powerbrokers and Sexton most likely have covered/discussed that would allow for the smoothest and quickest transition. Since much of the schedule and bowl invite of yet to be decided, it's hard to put any dates for a likely transition.

We also discussed the undefeated teams in tOSU & FSU and what would happen if these two teams lose their conference championship games along with Auburn. Could Bama slip back into the MNC picture?

Wouldn't be surprised at all if gritty Mich St. pulled a ground and pound upset on tOSU.

Not. at. all.

 

[Lukus Alderman]

Wouldn't be surprised at all if gritty Mich St. pulled a ground and pound upset on tOSU.
Not. at. all.

I'd be ok with that. FSU would then play and destroy Auburn or Missouri in the NC and talk of the SEC being such a power would calm a little.