Mack Brown Tweet

[utisdabomb12]

"Some of you have asked about my visit w/recruits & their families after I stepped down. Let me assure you it was all positive towards Texas!"

 

[AdHorn]

I would sure hope so...Texas has been very good to Mack Brown.

 

[utisdabomb12]

I hope that's the case, but I've been hearing some stuff is going to come out after NSD regarding Mack screwing Strong with some high school coaches. I sure hope there's no truth to it, because the fallout would not be good for Mack.

 

[pringlelake]

I hope that's the case, but I've been hearing some stuff is going to come out after NSD regarding Mack screwing Strong with some high school coaches. I sure hope there's no truth to it, because the fallout would not be good for Mack.

Why don't we just hear it right this minute instead of putting out a BS implied piece of pure gossip of what might happen? If you have something, spit it out. If not, let it go. This constant crucifixion of Mack is not accomplishing anything except further dividing our fan base.

 

[HookemDTX]

From Burton.

"I think Mack is/was about Mack first and foremost. Self-preservation above all and to the very, bitter end. Then came his team as whole, followed by his players, his recruits and coaches and then finally came the school.

When Mack talked to those recruits, I think there was some genuine concern for the recruits but I also know he was also thinking about trying to find another head coaching job in the near future, be it Nebraska or wherever. He was far from unbiased IMO and he was certainly emotional given the fact that he was given an ultimatum of sorts to resign just 3-4 hours earlier.

Just my $.02."

 

[utisdabomb12]

Why don't we just hear it right this minute instead of putting out a BS implied piece of pure gossip of what might happen? If you have something, spit it out. If not, let it go. This constant crucifixion of Mack is not accomplishing anything except further dividing our fan base.

When did I crucify Mack? I love Mack, and hence why I said I hope there isn't anything to the rumors. I never said these rumors are facts, they are just that rumors. Doesn't deny there might be some truth behind the rumors. Some pretty in tuned insiders at Orangebloods and Spurs think some stuff is going to come out regarding Mack and Texas high school coaches after NSD. I honestly have no clue if the rumors are true or not, hence why I said "I hope they aren't true because the fall out would be bad for Mack". I will say based on the people reporting these rumors, I'm a little nervous for what might come out. FYI these rumors were circulating even before there were decommitments and such, so it's not something that's just being thrown out there as some type of deflection on recruiting struggles. The point of my post was not to divide the fan post. That's why I said I hope there isn't any truth to the rumors.

 

[betogonzalez]

So what are the rumors?

 

[Tulsahorn]

From Burton.
"I think Mack is/was about Mack first and foremost. Self-preservation above all and to the very, bitter end. Then came his team as whole, followed by his players, his recruits and coaches and then finally came the school.

When Mack talked to those recruits, I think there was some genuine concern for the recruits but I also know he was also thinking about trying to find another head coaching job in the near future, be it Nebraska or wherever. He was far from unbiased IMO and he was certainly emotional given the fact that he was given an ultimatum of sorts to resign just 3-4 hours earlier.

Just my $.02."

Just pure speculation, and what the hell does wanting to coach somewhere else have to do with anything? Some recruit is going to look around, see where Mack might end up and go there?

BB's $0.02 is worth $0.01 if that.

 

[utisdabomb12]

So what are the rumors?

I have no clue but it involves something with Mack and high school coaches. I'm not going to bring it up again though until there's something actually released, because the above poster is correct that it's purely speculation at this point.

 

[echeese]

From Burton.
"I think Mack is/was about Mack first and foremost. Self-preservation above all and to the very, bitter end. Then came his team as whole, followed by his players, his recruits and coaches and then finally came the school.

When Mack talked to those recruits, I think there was some genuine concern for the recruits but I also know he was also thinking about trying to find another head coaching job in the near future, be it Nebraska or wherever. He was far from unbiased IMO and he was certainly emotional given the fact that he was given an ultimatum of sorts to resign just 3-4 hours earlier.

Just my $.02."

I know too many guys who've worked for Bobbie.. . .

I also have not heard from a single source Mack cares about working somewhere like Neb that is a clear step down from TEXAS. . . .

Mack's most likely heading to the studio for one of the CFB broadcasters. . .

Tired of all the worthless bullshit. . . .weaker sources than those that claimed 100% saban to texas. . .

 

[CarlosDanger]

So what are the rumors?

John Bonney told a houston tv station that mack told them to explore their options after he "resigned".....

 

[beevomav]

Why don't we just hear it right this minute instead of putting out a BS implied piece of pure gossip of what might happen? If you have something, spit it out. If not, let it go. This constant crucifixion of Mack is not accomplishing anything except further dividing our fan base.

This from long time Texas recruit John Bonney. Sound like gossip to you? Here's the link to the story. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24428379/recruit-mack-brown-told-texas-commitments-to-look-around

I was at my official visit when Mack Brown resigned and he told us to go look around. [He said] he'll even talk to other coaches for you and everything because he really just wanted the best for us as players.

Yea, Mack was really giving a shit about Texas. I say keep Mack on but move his official office to College Station.

 

[86MEHorn]

From Burton

"I think...I think...IMO...Just my $.02"

 

[since_DKR]

John Bonney told a houston tv station that mack told them to explore their options after he "resigned".....

How about you listen to what John Bonney's father actually said, and then tell me that Mack took improper action. No coach with integrity would not have said and done the same as Mack, and our recruits respected him for his remarks.

Don't report "what the radio station in Houston reported", when you are getting it second hand from someone else. Just maybe they are only telling part of the story because it is to their advantage.

 

[since_DKR]

Here is what John Bonney's father actually said, for those of you that missed it.

Bonney's Dad sets the record straight

"I was standing right there when he made the statement," Jerry Bonney said. "His first general statement to the kids and all of us [family members] was 'I'm not telling you not to come to Texas. I think this is a fine place and you should stay [if you're committed to Texas]. However, if you are coming here for me to coach you and that was the main reason you were coming, those of you in that category, I certainly encourage you to look elsewhere because I won't be your coach. I'm stepping down immediately after the Oregon game.' "

Jerry Bonney, who was present with his son when Brown made the comments, wanted to clear the air regarding Brown's intentions and called him a "man of integrity" and said he thanked Brown immediately afterward for being up front with the recruits when he delivered them the news of his resignation on Dec. 14, 2013.

"[brown said] 'If I can help you in any way that I can, those of you that have been committed for a long period of time, I love y'all too much to not tell you now so that'll give you ample time to try to do something else if that's what you want to do,' " Jerry Bonney recalled. " 'But I think Texas is a fine place, a good place, they're probably going to pick a good coach, I'm sure they will, but I can't tell you who it will be.' That's exactly how it happened."

 

[JKW-Hook 'em]

Here is what John Bonney's father actually said, for those of you that missed it.
Bonney's Dad sets the record straight

"I was standing right there when he made the statement," Jerry Bonney said. "His first general statement to the kids and all of us [family members] was 'I'm not telling you not to come to Texas. I think this is a fine place and you should stay [if you're committed to Texas]. However, if you are coming here for me to coach you and that was the main reason you were coming, those of you in that category, I certainly encourage you to look elsewhere because I won't be your coach. I'm stepping down immediately after the Oregon game.' "

Jerry Bonney, who was present with his son when Brown made the comments, wanted to clear the air regarding Brown's intentions and called him a "man of integrity" and said he thanked Brown immediately afterward for being up front with the recruits when he delivered them the news of his resignation on Dec. 14, 2013.

"[brown said] 'If I can help you in any way that I can, those of you that have been committed for a long period of time, I love y'all too much to not tell you now so that'll give you ample time to try to do something else if that's what you want to do,' " Jerry Bonney recalled. " 'But I think Texas is a fine place, a good place, they're probably going to pick a good coach, I'm sure they will, but I can't tell you who it will be.' That's exactly how it happened."

I think there are a couple of troubling things in what Mack did. First, how many recruits actually attend a college despite the head coach? Is not the head coach a significant, if not the most significant factor, in a recruits decision making process. Sure, their position coach is important, but I just don't see any recruit committing to a school where they don't like the head coach or at a minimum the head coach wasn't a major factor in why they committed. Mack knew this.

Also, after saying recruits should stay if committed, he then says "if you are coming here for me to coach you" which begs the question, isn't that what all head coaches do, coach their players? Finally, he didn't suggest they look elsewhere...he encouraged it and would even reward their loyalty to HIM by doing what he could for them.

Look, Mack could sell ice to an Eskimo...he's one of the greatest recruiters ever, he could have used this gift to help out his beloved University and the new coach coming in by convincing these recruits he apparently "loved so much" to stay at Texas. I've heard him say many times that he tells recruits to commit to the school, because you will spend the next 4 years there, and a degree from UT will open many doors. Instead, he encouraged them to look elsewhere. Sorry, I'm struggling buying this is Mack playing the father image instead of Mack the bitter forced out coach.

Quite simply, he could have helped UT, his employer, and chose not to.

 

[JimR]

Snake oil

 

[alonghorn72]

Has anyone reached out to the other recruits to see what was said that weekend. I mean if 3/4 of our class was attending that weekend then surely someone else heard the same comments that Bonney is claiming right? Where are those accounts at?

 

[since_DKR]

I think there are a couple of troubling things in what Mack did. First' date=' how many recruits actually attend a college despite the head coach? Is not the head coach a significant, if not the most significant factor, in a recruits decision making process. Sure, their position coach is important, but I just don't see any recruit committing to a school where they don't like the head coach or at a minimum the head coach wasn't a major factor in why they committed. Mack knew this.
Also, after saying recruits should stay if committed, he then says "if you are coming here for me to coach you" which begs the question, isn't that what all head coaches do, coach their players? Finally, he didn't suggest they look elsewhere...he [b']encouraged[/b] it and would even reward their loyalty to HIM by doing what he could for them.

Look, Mack could sell ice to an Eskimo...he's one of the greatest recruiters ever, he could have used this gift to help out his beloved University and the new coach coming in by convincing these recruits he apparently "loved so much" to stay at Texas. I've heard him say many times that he tells recruits to commit to the school, because you will spend the next 4 years there, and a degree from UT will open many doors. Instead, he encouraged them to look elsewhere. Sorry, I'm struggling buying this is Mack playing the father image instead of Mack the bitter forced out coach.

Quite simply, he could have helped UT, his employer, and chose not to.

Well when it comes to trying to “sell some ice to Eskimos” I think you are trying to sell a bit yourself when you chose to pick and choose select words from what Mack said rather than the entire sentence.

You conveniently take the word encourage and emphasize it out of the context that it was spoken.

You conveniently ignore what Mack says FIRST, 'I'm not telling you not to come to Texas. I think this is a fine place and you should stay [if you're committed to Texas].”,

And then you choose to emphasize one word out of his following opening remarks --, IF.. IF you are coming here for me to coach you and that was the main reason you were coming, those of you in that category, I certainly encourage you to look elsewhere because I won't be your coach."

Yeah, I guess Mack should have been more selective with his words during an emotional moment when he was announcing for the first time that he was stepping down, because he should have known that critics such as yourself would take every opportunity to twist words out of context and criticize.

I am tired of all the BS and uproar about a man that gave us our second best winning span in my schools history.