Mack Brown on a short leash this year?

[bbdude]

I do not start this thread lightly but I wanted to throw this out for discussion. First of all I want to make it known that I like Mack Brown. I think he is a fantastic human being and a good coach that has done immeasurable good for the Texas football program. He cares about his players and he is a class act.

I was at my fantasy football draft today and several of the guys in the league have kids that attend UT. With football season upon us a conversation about Mack soon started and the opinions from the guys I was around was that Mack should be replaced immediately. Another guy (LSU grad) made the statement that if Mack loses 3 games this season he will potentially be gone. Then the recruiting came up and what the return on investment is on the recruiting classes we have hauled in is paying in dividends on the field. A quote, verbatim, from one of the guys:

"You give Nick Saban, Urban Meyer or even Les Miles these guys that Texas has and they would have won at least 2 more national championships than Mack has. Mack needs to realize that business is business and the touchy-feely stuff only goes so far."

 

My question to the board here is does Mack retire when he wants to? Or does the Longhorn machine force him out after a season that does not meet expectations? What does it take THIS YEAR for us to consider the season a success and what is the bottom line for Mack this season?

The head coaching position at THE University of Texas is one of the most high profile jobs in the country. Don't forget it.

 

[Ssuwr86]

I do not start this thread lightly but I wanted to throw this out for discussion. First of all I want to make it known that I like Mack Brown. I think he is a fantastic human being and a good coach that has done immeasurable good for the Texas football program. He cares about his players and he is a class act.
I was at my fantasy football draft today and several of the guys in the league have kids that attend UT. With football season upon us a conversation about Mack soon started and the opinions from the guys I was around was that Mack should be replaced immediately. Another guy (LSU grad) made the statement that if Mack loses 3 games this season he will potentially be gone. Then the recruiting came up and what the return on investment is on the recruiting classes we have hauled in is paying in dividends on the field. A quote, verbatim, from one of the guys:

"You give Nick Saban, Urban Meyer or even Les Miles these guys that Texas has and they would have won at least 2 more national championships than Mack has. Mack needs to realize that business is business and the touchy-feely stuff only goes so far."

 

My question to the board here is does Mack retire when he wants to? Or does the Longhorn machine force him out after a season that does not meet expectations? What does it take THIS YEAR for us to consider the season a success and what is the bottom line for Mack this season?

The head coaching position at THE University of Texas is one of the most high profile jobs in the country. Don't forget it.

I think 10 wins is attainable this season and puts us in the top 10 going into next year... Considering what our program was when he came in, he's done a great job... As for all those coaches winning more titles at Texas thats bs.... Les miles is an excellent recruiter but he sucks as a head coach making in game adjustments and sraregy... Saban maybe would have won another championship, but there isn't a better CEO in college football than Mack brown... He gets great assistants, delegates responsibility, and does very well... Mack lives out his contract and I think he wins another championship... I really do

 

[beevomav]

Mack is a cash cow and he coaches as long as he wants..He just needs to find someone who can evaluate and recruit big time QB's..The Beavis and Butt-Head duo at 40 acres is not going to cut it..

 

[bbdude]

All you ask of your coach is to get you into a position to where you have consistent opportunities to play for a conference/ national title. We all kow how much luck is involved in making it to the big game. All the chips have to fall into the right place and the media kissing your ass doesn't hurt (see Alabama/LSU). If we were winning more conference championships I would be a bit more optimistic.

 

[Master Cee]

Mack is good but he is no Saban. Less Smiles has not had a quarterback at LSU in a good number of years but the Tigers still manage to play in and win BCS championships. Both the football and basketball programs need to be closely scrutinized. We are Texas, not some program that should cross their fingers and hope o be good.

 

[Chris Flanagan]

Mack is good but he is no Saban. Less Smiles has not had a quarterback at LSU in a good number of years but the Tigers still manage to play in and win BCS championships. Both the football and basketball programs need to be closely scrutinized. We are Texas, not some program that should cross their fingers and hope o be good.

Agree with this statement right here. I think that if you look at the pure numbers two conference championships and one national championship is not going to get it done. Add in that he has not been very good against Oklahoma, I think if he doesn't get to a bowl game this season he is gone.

 

[bbdude]

I WILL SAY THIS: I DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS WHO YOU ARE... YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE TALENT ON THE FIELD TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

Marinate in that.

 

[lakeman74]

I concur with the talent comment but success also requires good decision making in business as usual AND high pressure situations. I read somewhere on here in another thread about the critical nature of the qb play this year. I agree. On coach - Mack has a special place in Texas football history but it is time to get new blood at the head coaching position. We will win 9 games this year but not good enough for us given where we have been the last 2 years.

 

[thetruth]

The Junta at Texas will let Mack hang around until he's ready to leave. They feel he's earned the right.

 

[TuxedoYoda]

Mack's 2005 title bought him AT LEAST 10 years to do whatever the F@#K he wants. We could go 3-9 and Mack could take a dump on the 50 yard line during halftime of the TCU game and he still wouldn't get fired.

 

[bbdude]

Saw him in an interview with KXAN when and he was asked about it. He said him and his wife thought they would be in Austin for around 5 seasons. Mack is in his 15th season at Texas!!!!! He also said he knows the seat is always hot because there is always someone that wants your job.

If he does go mad crapper on us then that will be the final sign that things have become unraveled in Austin...

A definition:

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[TD=class: word] Mad Crapper

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[TD=class: text, colspan: 2] One who repeatedly craps in strategic locations that will attract attention to the situation of someone crapping somewhere other than in a toilet.

"they called him the mad crapper because his senior prank was crapping in the busy hallways when no one was around"

Janitor: "DAMN YOU MADD CRAPPER!! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!

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[uttailgaters]

"You give Nick Saban' date=' Urban Meyer or even Les Miles these guys that Texas has and they would have won at least 2 more national championships than Mack has. Mack needs to realize that business is business and the touchy-feely stuff only goes so far." 

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First of all, you need to stop listening to SEC propagandists.

 

Les Miles would have won 3 national titles here since 1998? Oh yeah? Name the teams that would have won a title. That's what I would have asked those fools.

 

Considering the fact that we lost a title game in 2009 and basically got screwed out of playing for one in 2008, it's really not a leap to say that Saban/Meyer would have won 2 more titles than Mack. That's 3 wins. I think they're probably right about Saban, but Urban Meyer would never be able to handle the pressure at Texas. If Florida put him in the hospital, I shudder to think what Ohio State will do to him.

 

I have found in my experience that my friends who claim Mack should be gone or "is on the hot seat" are usually the one who know the least about the sport.

 

It's difficult to say precisely what it takes to keep Mack off the hot seat (I don't believe he's on it). I think there are obvious signs of progress and as long as we keep seeing that continue, he's fine. A serious run is on the horizon in 2013.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

A run could be in the cards starting September 1. It feels like 2008 all over again. I hope the wins are the same not the hangovers I suffered that year.

 

[bbdude]

A run could be in the cards starting September 1. It feels like 2008 all over again. I hope the wins are the same not the hangovers I suffered that year.

Let's go out and kick some ass. Ready for this bad boy to start so that we can finally see what we have in the tank. HOOK'EM!

 

[thetruth]

This from Deloss Dodds yesterday regarding Brown's job security after going 13-12 in the past 2 seasons

Brown isn’t even close to being on the hot seat.

Mack is going nowhere.

 

[Coach_B]

See if I start this topic people think I am instantly bashing Mack but you start it and it goes nice. HA!!!

Anyway, no I don't think Mack is on a short leash, yes I do believe he should be. He is the sole #1 reason Texas is in the position its in going into this season.