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Davharjac

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I think you guys that are against this hire are just dead set against it, and there is nothing that can be done for you. You will pout and whine until the season starts, then when Texas is winning you will cheer, and when they lose (they will lose, the talent isn't where it needs to be yet) you will go back to the "we could have had Saben, Gruden, Harbaugh, Fisher", or someone else that had even the smallest bit of interest in Texas at one point in their life..It is what it is, Saben and co. aren't coming. Gruden is going to be happy in the booth with Mike, Harbaugh will be a Raven until Michigan comes knocking (yeah, he probably hold that job in higher regards than Texas), and he will probably spurn them as well, Fisher will and his heisman trophy winning Qb will still be together, and so on.

Someone posted that Texas is the 5 who thinks she is the 10...I disagree Texas is a 10 who knows she is a 10, but pisses everyone off with her overall crappy attitude, which makes her a 5. The thought of actually having to build the program scares that pants off of some of you guys. A name, a splash, sure it would have been cool for esteem, however what Texas needs is to get it's players AND fans out of the country club mentality.

 
I think you guys that are against this hire are just dead set against it, and there is nothing that can be done for you. You will pout and whine until the season starts, then when Texas is winning you will cheer, and when they lose (they will lose, the talent isn't where it needs to be yet) you will go back to the "we could have had Saben, Gruden, Harbaugh, Fisher", or someone else that had even the smallest bit of interest in Texas at one point in their life..It is what it is, Saben and co. aren't coming. Gruden is going to be happy in the booth with Mike, Harbaugh will be a Raven until Michigan comes knocking (yeah, he probably hold that job in higher regards than Texas), and he will probably spurn them as well, Fisher will and his heisman trophy winning Qb will still be together, and so on.
Someone posted that Texas is the 5 who thinks she is the 10...I disagree Texas is a 10 who knows she is a 10, but pisses everyone off with her overall crappy attitude, which makes her a 5. The thought of actually having to build the program scares that pants off of some of you guys. A name, a splash, sure it would have been cool for esteem, however what Texas needs is to get it's players AND fans out of the country club mentality.
Well said.

 
I think you guys that are against this hire are just dead set against it, and there is nothing that can be done for you. You will pout and whine until the season starts, then when Texas is winning you will cheer, and when they lose (they will lose, the talent isn't where it needs to be yet) you will go back to the "we could have had Saben, Gruden, Harbaugh, Fisher", or someone else that had even the smallest bit of interest in Texas at one point in their life..It is what it is, Saben and co. aren't coming. Gruden is going to be happy in the booth with Mike, Harbaugh will be a Raven until Michigan comes knocking (yeah, he probably hold that job in higher regards than Texas), and he will probably spurn them as well, Fisher will and his heisman trophy winning Qb will still be together, and so on.
Someone posted that Texas is the 5 who thinks she is the 10...I disagree Texas is a 10 who knows she is a 10, but pisses everyone off with her overall crappy attitude, which makes her a 5. The thought of actually having to build the program scares that pants off of some of you guys. A name, a splash, sure it would have been cool for esteem, however what Texas needs is to get it's players AND fans out of the country club mentality.
Thank you for so perfectly expressing the UT mindset that has produced decades of underachievement and mediocrity in UT football. You would be happy with anyone that Patterson hired because the country club mentality you describe is yours. You you will not whine or complain regardless of what happens with coaching hires or on the field because you are perfectly content with UT games as a social event rather than a championship pursuit.

Every UT fan is ready to rebuild UT football but the best way to do that is to hire a head coach who has done it in a major conference and has a championship winning track record. Especially when you have unlimited resources.

All of UT's adversaries are delighted that your point of view remains dominant at UT.

 
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I am fine with Strong, but am concerned if reports are true he will bring his whole staff. He needs to bring the absolute best and has the opportunity to open a wide net to bring the best. That does not mean he is not going to do that, but if that report is true, raises a concern about him. Patterson and he will not have a long time to produce and given how Patterson went about it, it will be with some tension. Best move for Strong is to go get an outstanding OC and that will start building momentum for him across all pieces of support.

 
Some people don't like the choice. I don't, personally. That doesn't make us pouters or whiners. Not everybody can rationalize everything away that easily, as nice as it would be. You can't just lump it all under "Texas fan arrogance." You view Strong as the best guy after a big name. I don't. It's really that simple.

 
I don't like the hire, but he isn't my coach.

I've always heard how he is on the recruiting trail (and we know how recruiting goes) but he's on another level, and I don't mean clean.

Knee jerk hire guys.

 
I don't like the hire, but he isn't my coach.
I've always heard how he is on the recruiting trail (and we know how recruiting goes) but he's on another level, and I don't mean clean.

Knee jerk hire guys.
Sure.

 
Thank you for so perfectly expressing the UT mindset that has produced decades of underachievement and mediocrity in UT football. You would be happy with anyone that Patterson hired because the country club mentality you describe is yours. You you will not whine or complain regardless of what happens with coaching hires or on the field because you are perfectly content with UT games as a social event rather than a championship pursuit.
Every UT fan is ready to rebuild UT football but the best way to do that is to hire a head coach who has done it in a major conference and has a championship winning track record. Especially when you have unlimited resources.

All of UT's adversaries are delighted that your point of view remains dominant at UT.
I don't have one issue w those who dislike the hire..by all means, voice your dislike, while I applaud it. My issue is with those who act like the 40 will burn because Charlie Strong is going to be the head coach, and not someone they had invested a tremendous amount of HOPE in. Truth be told, I would have supported whoever Texas hired, I may not have liked it, but I would have got behind the hire. I played for two different coaches in college, one of which came out of nowhere, so I know first hand what it feels like to buckle down and work, even if it isn't the guy you had hoped for..so, your opinion is yours, hold on to it. But in the end being bitter about a hire that is not going happen will accomplish what? If you decide to buy into posts from msg boards and allow yourself to blindly believe everything you read, if you allow yourself to fall in love w an idea rather that reality, then that is your choice, but how on earth am I the jaded one..hold on to your opinion..if it's all the same I will hold on to mine..perhaps when your ready to come around we can cheer and say Hook'em together...

 
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Thank you for so perfectly expressing the UT mindset that has produced decades of underachievement and mediocrity in UT football. You would be happy with anyone that Patterson hired because the country club mentality you describe is yours. You you will not whine or complain regardless of what happens with coaching hires or on the field because you are perfectly content with UT games as a social event rather than a championship pursuit.
Every UT fan is ready to rebuild UT football but the best way to do that is to hire a head coach who has done it in a major conference and has a championship winning track record. Especially when you have unlimited resources.

All of UT's adversaries are delighted that your point of view remains dominant at UT.

1st. . .you assume one of the "1st Tier" hires would accept the job. . .So far it appears Fisher, Saban and both Harbaugh's have said no. . .please don't tell me anyone things Gruden is a "Tier 1" type. . .

2nd. . .clearly you don't know much about Strong if you think he is "country club"

3rd. ..of the Tier 2 hires . .we can make a great case for Strong as the best of the bunch. . .though I can see arguments for others

but 4th. . .the idea that because you don't like the hire means anyone who likes Strong isn't about winning is just goofy. ..

Mack had in some ways less of a resume than Strong. . .he delivered a Natty, played for another and you can argue was 2 plays away (1 in each game) from playing for 2 more. .

But by your standard, Jim Harbaugh is off the list as well so is Fisher (unless we wait till Tues). . .

But I have to say, . . .I really enjoyed watching Strong beat the dog crap out of two "major" conference teams in his past 2 bowls.. .

Your bolded line is a strawman and a "I'm a better fan" argument which spin for someone having a different opinion than you. . .

 
Thank you for so perfectly expressing the UT mindset that has produced decades of underachievement and mediocrity in UT football. You would be happy with anyone that Patterson hired because the country club mentality you describe is yours. You you will not whine or complain regardless of what happens with coaching hires or on the field because you are perfectly content with UT games as a social event rather than a championship pursuit.
Every UT fan is ready to rebuild UT football but the best way to do that is to hire a head coach who has done it in a major conference and has a championship winning track record. Especially when you have unlimited resources.

All of UT's adversaries are delighted that your point of view remains dominant at UT.
You might want to do a little homework before posting what is essentially a personal attack.

How is getting rid of a CEO type coach and going with a true X and O coach over a "splash" hire show that the school is keeping the status quo? This hire goes completely against what you are saying. This hire is taking a risk by trying to bring in a true up and comer that could be the next great coach. He could also be a bust, don't get me wrong. However to say that this mentality and this hire is because of a mindset that produced "decades of underachievement" is ignorant at best.

Hell if anything going with the safe bet (big splash hire) is more of the old mindset that came with Mack Brown.

 
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Same thing was going to happen no matter who we hired. If Saban was hired, he can't stop the spread. If Harbaugh (As if pipe dream), he doesn't know how to recruit and has no ties to Texas. If Briles, he never has a defense. If Gruden, he never coached in college. Blah, blah, blah.

If Strong does agree to a deal, I like the hire. He is a defensive minded guy and is tough. We need tough.

 
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