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[HookemDTX]

Have you noticed that not one of the "insiders" here has said a word other than McPhaul getting out of the way after the BS poor Red is senile post.

 

[Lukus Alderman]

Have you noticed that not one of the "insiders" here has said a word other than McPhaul getting out of the way after the BS poor Red is senile post.

What is your point?

 

[Darrell McPhaul]

I was excited when I first found this website, now not so much. You delete threads you do not agree with. You protect BMDs although they say terrible things about the players and they pout publicly when they do not get their way/say. Why do you protect them? Why? Just because they donate a ton of money does not mean they can say whatever they want publicly. If they have an issue, then they can talk to Steve Patterson. If he does not listen, then they can take their money elsewhere or they can just donate and take the tax break and shut up.

Protect the BMDs? Absolutely not. Maybe I have done a poor job of explaining this but, I'm going to try and do a better job. The only people I'm worried about protecting is the members on board. Actually protecting would be the wrong term. They protect themselves. They trust me to keep the criticism to mature level. We don't allow any one call our members a derogatory name, let's maintain that same philosophy with everyone.

 

[PDX Horn]

His comments were out of line. I won't bash the man because I don't know him but completely uncalled for today.

Sounded worse on audio than reading the recap.

 

[mesoHorny]

McP. While I disagree with your timing I do respect what you are trying to do.

 

[dcbc]

This. And only this, however I will say he owes COACH Strong and UT an apology.

Mr. Coach Strong, Esq., Sir!

 

[alonghorn72]

Red and Joe are "Old Money" and they are rebelling to the bitter end. They, along with Mack, helped bring Texas back to national prominence and are responsible for the athletic facility upgrades (among others) that we get to enjoy as fans. I sincerely appreciate all the financial contributions and loyalty they have displayed towards the University of Texas. That being said, I can only hope that they will soon realize that times are changing, but more importantly, that the culture is changing and that this is a good thing for The University of Texas. I truly hope they will get through their grief of losing their biggest enabler and get on board with the new staff. Everyone will be much better off if this will come to fruition, and sooner rather than later.

 

[Baghorn]

Im going to have to disagree with you because frankly Im just sick about hearing things about/from BMD's in general. Doing good things or not people like Jamail and Red just need to go away IMO...at least from being media figures ever again.
Reds comments on how the hire should have been Gruden, and how he's been talking to Gruden about coaching here make me feel like Patterson was the perfect hire. Red is best served writing checks...not hiring the next coach and playing athletic director. Jon Gruden was never coming here, and he wont be coaching anywhere. Not in the NFL or in college. A total waste of time, and would have been pointless for Patterson to chase that crap when he had more important things to do

I absolutely love Patterson isn't afraid to stand up to clown shows and Red/Jamail went clown show. These are not the first public comments Red has made in the last month or two

Here's where it gets complicated. If it wasn't for these guys we would be looking at 6-7 more years of Mack because Powers and Dodds were never going to do anything about it. These are the guy who retired Dodds, and because of Powers actions were forced to force Mack out....not something they wanted to do at all. Then they personally selected Patterson to be AD to execute their vision for the future of UT Atheletics...which was for us to be the indisputable Gorilla of D1 sports. If Patteson thought hiring Strong was the clear cut path towards dominating the football landscape he should have taken a few minutes to explain that thinking to the guys he owed his job too. Instead he conspired with Powers to go completely against their wishes because he had a personal issue with Jimmy Sexton. There are a lot of really credible candidates who were never reached out too because Powers and Patterson decided they wanted to act fast to prevent interference in their selection going against what they were asked to do. Powers knows nothing about what makes a successful football coach. That is is not disputable. Patterson's motives are less clear but he aligned himself with Power instead of the Hiring Committee and the AD committee who hired him. This side of the story has nothing to do with Red's remarks about Strong.

I like Strong. He can be really good if he hires the right offensive staff. He is the anti-Mack in terms of coaching style. That is good. That is however not the point in this discussion. Red has done more for UT than everyone on this board combined multiplied by 100. The guy does deserve the respect of being listened to...doesn't mean anybody has to do exactly what he says but if you are smart you humor these people at the very least. That did not happen here. There are a number of other similarly important, arguably even more important at this point, BMD's who not only volunteered millions of dollar of their own money to getting us the best coach possible but put their good name on the lines in the process of doing so. These people were not treated with the respect they deserve..and their own reputations took a hit in the process. This is not the way you treat the people who hired and trusted you if you want long term job security.

That said, let me repeat again, this is not about Charlie Strong. He's a good guy with a good chance at being a great coach. This is about how the process was handled. Some of you guys don't understand that without the BMD's Mackovic might still be our coach and Mack certainly would. The President of our University would be perfectly fine with 8-4 records from now to eternity. Is that what you want for UT or do you want excellence? It's the steamroller BMD's that have given everything they have to push excellence.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Red was 100% wrong & I will not respect someone who has shown a complete lack of respect towards the Strong family.

 

[NLeininger]

If it wasn't about Charlie, then why even talk about Charlie in his comments.

 

[Baghorn]

The people who protected Powers were the alumni, not the BMDs. At the end of the day, Perry and his cronies weren't worried about the money, they were worried about popular opinion and the voters. Perry figured out having a half million educated UT alumni (and THEIR donations) aligned against him was a losing proposition. Red has marginalized himself and the value of his support irreparably today. We will see in short order who does the right thing and repudiates Red McCombs' comments.

Randolph, that's simply not true. Without Greg Abbott and Robert Rowling among others it would have not mattered what the alumni did. Btw, who do you think stirred up the alumni in the first place?

 

[KellyUT4Ever]

Protect the BMDs? Absolutely not. Maybe I have done a poor job of explaining this but, I'm going to try and do a better job. The only people I'm worried about protecting is the members on board. Actually protecting would be the wrong term. They protect themselves. They trust me to keep the criticism to mature level. We don't allow any one call our members a derogatory name, let's maintain that same philosophy with everyone.

Red is a great guy and has done wonders for himself and UT, without question. He is known at times to say bunch of crazy things. I think he was infinitely angry because he thought he had a vote, because he always had a vote, and nobody sent him a memo this time around that he did't have one. (No excuses)

I hope that we can all forgive Red. I suspect an apology will be forthcoming. At the end of the day he wears orange socks and lives in an orange house. And in a few weeks, this will all be irrelevant.

 

[KellyUT4Ever]

Here's where it gets complicated. If it wasn't for these guys we would be looking at 6-7 more years of Mack because Powers and Dodds were never going to do anything about it. These are the guy who retired Dodds, and because of Powers actions were forced to force Mack out....not something they wanted to do at all. Then they personally selected Patterson to be AD to execute their vision for the future of UT Atheletics...which was for us to be the indisputable Gorilla of D1 sports. If Patteson thought hiring Strong was the clear cut path towards dominating the football landscape he should have taken a few minutes to explain that thinking to the guys he owed his job too. Instead he conspired with Powers to go completely against their wishes because he had a personal issue with Jimmy Sexton. There are a lot of really credible candidates who were never reached out too because Powers and Patterson decided they wanted to act fast to prevent interference in their selection going against what they were asked to do. Powers knows nothing about what makes a successful football coach. That is is not disputable. Patterson's motives are less clear but he aligned himself with Power instead of the Hiring Committee and the AD committee who hired him. This side of the story has nothing to do with Red's remarks about Strong.
I like Strong. He can be really good if he hires the right offensive staff. He is the anti-Mack in terms of coaching style. That is good. That is however not the point in this discussion. Red has done more for UT than everyone on this board combined multiplied by 100. The guy does deserve the respect of being listened to...doesn't mean anybody has to do exactly what he says but if you are smart you humor these people at the very least. That did not happen here. There are a number of other similarly important, arguably even more important at this point, BMD's who not only volunteered millions of dollar of their own money to getting us the best coach possible but put their good name on the lines in the process of doing so. These people were not treated with the respect they deserve..and their own reputations took a hit in the process. This is not the way you treat the people who hired and trusted you if you want long term job security.

That said, let me repeat again, this is not about Charlie Strong. He's a good guy with a good chance at being a great coach. This is about how the process was handled. Some of you guys don't understand that without the BMD's Mackovic might still be our coach and Mack certainly would. The President of our University would be perfectly fine with 8-4 records from now to eternity. Is that what you want for UT or do you want excellence? It's the steamroller BMD's that have given everything they have to push excellence.

100% agree- far more than on the surface. Hook Em

 

[Baghorn]

If it wasn't about Charlie, then why even talk about Charlie in his comments.

I'm not going to defend his statements...they were indefensible. That said, I suspect he was trying to compare Charlie's career record to the other candidates who were never interviewed or offered. Saban has 4 MNC's, Fisher has 2 as a OC and is obviously playing for one as a HC, Gruden has a Super Bowl ring, John Harbaugh has a Super Bowl ring....etc. The primary legitimate criticism anyone could level at Charlie Strong is he's only been a Head Coach for 4 years and only had 2 good seasons in those 4 years. His 2 good season both came with a VY caliber QB. What happens if he doesn't have a QB worthy of the first pick in the draft? We don't know the answer right now.

 

[JKW-Hook 'em]

I'm not going to defend his statements...they were indefensible. That said, I suspect he was trying to compare Charlie's career record to the other candidates who were never interviewed or offered. Saban has 4 MNC's, Fisher has 2 as a OC and is obviously playing for one as a HC, Gruden has a Super Bowl ring, John Harbaugh has a Super Bowl ring....etc. The primary legitimate criticism anyone could level at Charlie Strong is he's only been a Head Coach for 4 years and only had 2 good seasons in those 4 years. His 2 good season both came with a VY caliber QB. What happens if he doesn't have a QB worthy of the first pick in the draft? We don't know the answer right now.

Just to be fair and consistent coach Strong has 2 MNC's as a DC for Florida and would almost never play for a MNC at Louisville despite his record...much like Boise State wouldn't. I think there are many that might consider his experience gained while working with the likes of Holtz, Spurrier and Meyer and being a head coach for 4 years makes him more qualified than Gruden who has been out of coaching for years and has a very limited college experience...and not an impressive one at that.

Two years QB coach at Southeast Missouri State, one year TE coach at University of the Pacific and one year wide receivers coach at University of Pittsburgh. Yes, he has a Super Bowl ring...which begs the question...why is he not still coaching, especially given all the turnover in the NFL these days?

I appreciate what the BMDs do and have done for the University, but don't hire an AD because he seems best qualified to change the culture and then bemoan him when he does just that. The problem is they, the BMDs, don't ever see themselves as part of the problem...just the solution.

 

[pringlelake]

I realize Red has donated a lot of money and done a lot of good for Texas
I know this community wants to be different, but what Red said today has no defense. What he said deserves the full outrage of the UT nation

It was disgusting, and embarrassing. I agree with a few of the others who felt some sort of possible race issue in the comments particularly in regard to him not even being deserving of a head coach title, and more suited to a lower position like a position coach. The comments were demeaning and insulting if nothing else.

I don't care what Red has done in the past as respect is earned, and today he lost my respect by what he said

Red embarrassed himself and the University today, and its not being out of line IMO to point that out

I particularly think its sad he came out to make these comments on the day Strong was introduced as coach

Now is the time to let things heal and rally around our new coach. Red went nuclear and trashed someone that is just starting his era at Texas. Red's comments carry a lot of attention in the media, and as a major UT booster he should be above this. Its truly a joke he put himself in this story

Red should have taken a cue from Mack Brown who was very classy in welcoming Coach Strong today

Dizz---you are 100% right. Every word of it.

 

[NLeininger]

I'm not going to defend his statements...they were indefensible. That said, I suspect he was trying to compare Charlie's career record to the other candidates who were never interviewed or offered. Saban has 4 MNC's, Fisher has 2 as a OC and is obviously playing for one as a HC, Gruden has a Super Bowl ring, John Harbaugh has a Super Bowl ring....etc. The primary legitimate criticism anyone could level at Charlie Strong is he's only been a Head Coach for 4 years and only had 2 good seasons in those 4 years. His 2 good season both came with a VY caliber QB. What happens if he doesn't have a QB worthy of the first pick in the draft? We don't know the answer right now.

Fisher had less experience than Strong did as a head coach before getting the FSU gig. Saban was 34-24-1 (0-3 in bowl games) at MSU before getting the gig at LSU. So maybe instead of taking Saban or Fisher, we create the next Saban or Fisher.

 

[JKW-Hook 'em]

As was mentioned before, if his real issue is being shunned by Patterson and not having a vote or any input in the hiring process, then why drag the new coach's name through the mud? I'm sure he does not make business decisions in such a knee-jerk manner.

 

[skj7]

Red has done a lot for the university - but i cannot agree with the way he has handled his view of the process -

rather than air it out in public he should have have directed his frustration over the process behind closed doors with Powers and Patterson -

with the amount he has given to the school i am sure he has access to them and to many other powerful people in the UT system

 

[mesoHorny]

Here's where it gets complicated. If it wasn't for these guys we would be looking at 6-7 more years of Mack because Powers and Dodds were never going to do anything about it. These are the guy who retired Dodds, and because of Powers actions were forced to force Mack out....not something they wanted to do at all. Then they personally selected Patterson to be AD to execute their vision for the future of UT Atheletics...which was for us to be the indisputable Gorilla of D1 sports. If Patteson thought hiring Strong was the clear cut path towards dominating the football landscape he should have taken a few minutes to explain that thinking to the guys he owed his job too. Instead he conspired with Powers to go completely against their wishes because he had a personal issue with Jimmy Sexton. There are a lot of really credible candidates who were never reached out too because Powers and Patterson decided they wanted to act fast to prevent interference in their selection going against what they were asked to do. Powers knows nothing about what makes a successful football coach. That is is not disputable. Patterson's motives are less clear but he aligned himself with Power instead of the Hiring Committee and the AD committee who hired him. This side of the story has nothing to do with Red's remarks about Strong.
I like Strong. He can be really good if he hires the right offensive staff. He is the anti-Mack in terms of coaching style. That is good. That is however not the point in this discussion. Red has done more for UT than everyone on this board combined multiplied by 100. The guy does deserve the respect of being listened to...doesn't mean anybody has to do exactly what he says but if you are smart you humor these people at the very least. That did not happen here. There are a number of other similarly important, arguably even more important at this point, BMD's who not only volunteered millions of dollar of their own money to getting us the best coach possible but put their good name on the lines in the process of doing so. These people were not treated with the respect they deserve..and their own reputations took a hit in the process. This is not the way you treat the people who hired and trusted you if you want long term job security.

That said, let me repeat again, this is not about Charlie Strong. He's a good guy with a good chance at being a great coach. This is about how the process was handled. Some of you guys don't understand that without the BMD's Mackovic might still be our coach and Mack certainly would. The President of our University would be perfectly fine with 8-4 records from now to eternity. Is that what you want for UT or do you want excellence? It's the steamroller BMD's that have given everything they have to push excellence.

Won't argue anything you said here. But the problem is he went after Strong and made it personal. Like you said. It was Powers and Patty that Red was mad at. Why embarrass Strong?

He can be as pissed as he likes and probably has a right to be. But he attacked an innocent man. That is why he is getting everyone's venom.