Korn-Ferry

[monarch]

Maybe, could it be that Patterson told them to not include Sexton clients?

...not only would that statement be pure conjecture.... but it would not be the most appropriate business acumen.

 

[Horn_MBA]

If this is true... then I doubt he would be that explicit. It wouldn't be that hard to set up the criteria to exclude them. In the end, we have coach Strong and that is a very good thing.

 

[TheContractor]

Saban, Fisher and Mora. All 3 were linked to the Texas job, none officially interviewed and all 3 got a raise at their current job bc they were linked to the Texas job.

Now at lest 2 people are reporting that Korn-Ferry have not even considered 1 of Sexton's clients? Patterson who is, to be fair, at least good acquaintances with Sexton and Saban. Does someone else not find that very interesting?

 

[monarch]

Saban, Fisher and Mora. All 3 were linked to the Texas job, none officially interviewed and all 3 got a raise at their current job bc they were linked to the Texas job. Now at lest 2 people are reporting that Korn-Ferry have not even considered 1 of Sexton's clients? Patterson who is, to be fair, at least good acquaintances with Sexton and Saban. Does someone else not find that very interesting?

...now you may finally be developing the bad taste that patterson has in his mouth as per sexton. buddy, you shall need to understand, that upon this particular business of "sports agents".... negotiations shall not always end up ethical, moral, and dignified. in the very end.... it is all about the money. and as the old saying goes.... "money is hereby the root to all evil".

 

[Pancho Negro]

Even if you are not Texas, If you are in the business of hiring a college coach and you dont consider one of the clients of Jimmy Sexton then you have not done your job. Period.

There doesn't have to be. They could have had a Sexton client on their initial list and then marked them off for whatever reason.

Just because a Sexton candidate doesn't get an interview doesn't mean the committee didn't do their job. I think you're emotionally overreacting just a tad bit.

With that said, I'm happy with Strong.

 

[DMV Horn]

Just because they weren't on the list for the firm to vet out doesn't mean they were discussed among the committee. I would think only those candidates that they committee and Patterson recommended would be vetted out. If Sexton is indeed as difficult to work with as some have alluded to I have no problem with this. Texas got their man. The sooner all the naysayers stop ranting about who Texas didn't consider and didn't look into and get on-board with the coach Texas hired the better off everyone will be.

Hear hear! This! Water under the bridge now. I'm sure McP and Mods on other boards will do a coaching search post mortem. Until such time, theorizing on what did or did not happen is a fools errand IMHO.

 

[Pancho Negro]

Sexton might be very difficult to work with and im not saying you should hire a Sexton client. What i am saying is that if Korn-Ferry did not talk about and consider a coach bc his agent is Sexton, they did not do justice to the search process. Sexton has many many clients, a few happen to be Saban, Fisher and Mora Jr. I like Strong a lot but if you want to move on, move on. I dont. I want to know the process. That does not make anyone a naysayer, it makes us curious.

And no offense man (you owe me beer ), but you can't demand to know the process. Mostly because you already know the process. What it seems you're asking for is a reason why certain candidates may have not been interviewed. The committee has their reasons. You can't demand to know why they didn't choose x candidate to move forward.

I've served on many hiring committees and not once as someone demanded to know why we didn't select them to be on the list. They didn't match what we were searching to hire. You can't assume that the committee and Patterson did this personally. They have their reason. As said before, they could have been on their initial lists and then taken off for certain reasons.

When you find out the answer as to why no Sexton candidate was considered, what happens then? I guess my thought is I don't care enough to know who wasn't considered. My life doesn't change by knowing that info because there's nothing I can do about it.

 

[TheContractor]

There doesn't have to be. They could have had a Sexton client on their initial list and then marked them off for whatever reason.
Just because a Sexton candidate doesn't get an interview doesn't mean the committee didn't do their job. I think you're emotionally overreacting just a tad bit.

With that said, I'm happy with Strong.

Nobody got an interview except Strong and Franklin. Ok maybe the BMDs vetted Saban but why did 2 other Sexton clients get a raise bc they were linked to the job. Sure names get thrown out there but this reeks of sleazy/shady behavior.

I really like Strong, he was my #3 behind Saban, Fisher.

Edit:I am curious to see if any assistants at Texas will be clients of Sexton.

 

[Pancho Negro]

Nobody got an interview except Strong and Franklin. Ok maybe the BMDs vetted Saban but why did 2 other Sexton clients get a raise bc they were linked to the job. Sure names get thrown out there but this reeks of sleazy/shady behavior.
I really like Strong, he was my #3 behind Saban, Fisher.

Yeah, but it's been mentioned here before and in articles that at times, agents themselves name drop their clients being linked to jobs just for the purpose of getting their client more money. That's their job as an agent right? You can't take every word of it as being the truth.

Basically, how do you NOT know that Sexton himself name dropped his clients for the good of his clients' brand and getting them more cash? We can surmise that this is a possibility, yes?

 

[TheContractor]

And no offense man (you owe me beer ), but you can't demand to know the process. Mostly because you already know the process. What it seems you're asking for is a reason why certain candidates may have not been interviewed. The committee has their reasons. You can't demand to know why they didn't choose x candidate to move forward.
I've served on many hiring committees and not once as someone demanded to know why we didn't select them to be on the list. They didn't match what we were searching to hire. You can't assume that the committee and Patterson did this personally. They have their reason. As said before, they could have been on their initial lists and then taken off for certain reasons.

When you find out the answer as to why no Sexton candidate was considered, what happens then? I guess my thought is I don't care enough to know who wasn't considered. My life doesn't change by knowing that info because there's nothing I can do about it.

I am not demanding anything. i am curious to know the process bc its interesting to know how and why thing are the way they are. Will i ever know it, 99.9% chance i wont.

It is intruiging to know why a single client of one particular agent, who happens to be friends with our AD were not considered. Yet 3 got raises over it.

Thats all. Some people dont care and you dont have to, i do.

You are served on many committee that hire, ok. I am not saying any of the clients matched or didnt match what Patterson was looking for. The ? is why, as it appears to be, were Sexton clients excluded specifically.

I feel we are going around in circles with this convo.

 

[TheContractor]

Yeah, but it's been mentioned here before and in articles that at times, agents themselves name drop their clients being linked to jobs just for the purpose of getting their client more money. That's their job as an agent right? You can't take every word of it as being the truth.
Basically, how do you NOT know that Sexton himself name dropped his clients for the good of his clients' brand and getting them more cash? We can surmise that this is a possibility, yes?

We can definitely say that that is a likely option. But not any other agents clients were mentioned got raises directly related to Texas. Not Briles or Franklin. At least not yet.

 

[HookemDTX]

Did Mora interview with Patterson? Is it normal to interview a candidate that hasn't been vetted?

 

[Randolph Duke]

What does it matter whether Korn-Ferry vetted any of Sexton's clients or not. Obviously, because information was shared with McPhaul, people at Korn-Ferry can't always be trusted to keep their mouths shut. Saban isn't an unknown entity. What is Korn-Ferry going to offer in vetting Saban? The way to vet Saban is to hire an atty in Alabama that would have knowledge of any issues involved with the Alabama program that were being swept under the rug.

If Patterson/Powers were talking with Saban and wanted to keep it quiet the second time around, NOT having Korn-Ferry aware that they were doing so would seem to be the best way to keep it quiet. There is the possibility that Korn-Ferry was hired to handle part of the HC search and not all of it.

 

[Bigt4451]

Based on deductive reasoning I conclude that Sexton is the biggest troll of all time and exploited the entire rabid Texas fan base for millions of dollars.

I would like to know who was leaking all the inside info during this entire Saban gate. Everybody and his dog had a source. Texas didn't use to do clown shows but we sure did one here and 3 of Sextons clients got raises.

And then we hired a coach for $5 million. And didn't go after any big assistants either.

Hmmmmm

 

[TheContractor]

What does it matter whether Korn-Ferry vetted any of Sexton's clients or not. Obviously, because information was shared with McPhaul, people at Korn-Ferry can't always be trusted to keep their mouths shut. Saban isn't an unknown entity. What is Korn-Ferry going to offer in vetting Saban? The way to vet Saban is to hire an atty in Alabama that would have knowledge of any issues involved with the Alabama program that were being swept under the rug.
If Patterson/Powers were talking with Saban and wanted to keep it quiet the second time around, NOT having Korn-Ferry aware that they were doing so would seem to be the best way to keep it quiet. There is the possibility that Korn-Ferry was hired to handle part of the HC search and not all of it.

It matters bc if you are a search firm your job is to find the best X that you are looking for. The ? is did K-F not consider any Sexton client worth? ok, possible but not likely bc Sexton has many good clients. Were K-F told to not consider Sexton clients? If so, why? and who was the main person behind that criteria and why?

K-F claim they had a file on every coach they considered. If you are searching for a coach in 2014, you would think Saban and Fisher and Malzhan, etc would be considered good enough coaches that you would have at least a couple in your top 5. Would they leave and go to another school? Maybe, maybe not? But you would have to have some Sextons very good clients up there. Why eliminate a few good candidates unless you were told not to include them? Thats why it matters.

as to the second part of your post, it is possible that Patterson might have been trying to not include K-F with Saban to keep it quiet. But why not consider other Sexton clients?

 

[Randolph Duke]

It matters bc if you are a search firm your job is to find the best X that you are looking for. The ? is did K-F not consider any Sexton client worth? ok, possible but not likely bc Sexton has many good clients. Were K-F told to not consider Sexton clients? If so, why? and who was the main person behind that criteria and why?K-F claim they had a file on every coach they considered. If you are searching for a coach in 2014, you would think Saban and Fisher and Malzhan, etc would be considered good enough coaches that you would have at least a couple in your top 5. Would they leave and go to another school? Maybe, maybe not? But you would have to have some Sextons very good clients up there. Why eliminate a few good candidates unless you were told not to include them? Thats why it matters.

as to the second part of your post, it is possible that Patterson might have been trying to not include K-F with Saban to keep it quiet. But why not consider other Sexton clients?

Patterson could have easily understood that Sexton clients were all high profile and could be vetted by another entity. We have nothing to indicate Forn-Ferry was privy to all the information Patterson was. As I said, the very evidence that someone at Korn-Ferry leaked information to McPhaul indicates Korn-Ferry has confidentiality issues. Patterson may well have been aware of this. We have no information to indicate Sexton clients weren't being considered. All we know is that if they were, whoever was vetting them doesn't seem have the same confidentiality issues Korn-Ferry does.

 

[xeno]

Incredible. Especially if Franklin was at the top with him. SMH.

 

[pops]

Contractor -- we hired a firm to search for and numerate a multitude of candidates. It so happened end that the personnel that Sexton represents did not meet the requirements of K/F. We hired them to evaluate candidates on sabermetrics that are above all of us. If you have a problem with them or their way of business do not bitch about on a board, take it to their respective PR department. Charlie is going to be the best thing to happen to this university within the next 10 years -- you, however, can be choosed to be remembered as one who recognized that or held on to the idea that it was Saban or bust and the program is destined for the shitter. I would like to respond to all of your arguments, but I do not have the time nor the patience to deal with blind ignorance.

 

[Randolph Duke]

Contractor -- we hired a firm to search for and numerate a multitude of candidates. It so happened end that the personnel that Sexton represents did not meet the requirements of K/F. We hired them to evaluate candidates on sabermetrics that are above all of us.

Neither you, nor any of us have any reasonable basis to state what Korn-Ferry was charged with doing or what metrics they used for any evaluation. It's all pure speculation. What we do seem to know is that Korn-Ferry has confidentiality issues, based on the fact confidential information has seemingly made its was to this board. Its all speculation and we probably will never know the true facts.

 

[Juan]

Corn Fairy