Interesting

[doc longhorn]

The that was really a big part of my "3 things" above. You have to have some true 5 star talent to win the championships (very few exceptions), but you are not going to fill a team with that rare talent. You must find the solid 2,3, and 4 star talent that can fill all those gaps. There have been some damn fine 3 and 4 star guys come through over the years.

Absolutely.  It's interesting how so many of us forget how we mature and change while we are in college.  There is a world of difference between an 18 year old, callow youth and a 20 year old.

I remember thinking I wanted to major in accounting as a freshman.  Then I met the love of my life in freshman biology and I fell in love with her and biology.  By the time I was a Jr., my career path was set - both personally and professionally.

My point being we grow up very quickly around this age (unless we are in a fraternity. ).

 

[Shevis Irons]

The that was really a big part of my "3 things" above. You have to have some true 5 star talent to win the championships (very few exceptions), but you are not going to fill a team with that rare talent. You must find the solid 2,3, and 4 star talent that can fill all those gaps. There have been some damn fine 3 and 4 star guys come through over the years.

Yes! Just reading " Courage beyond the Game" illustrates your point so well. I really believe there are some very low ranked players that go unnoticed due to school, lack of competition, and so often no one has put together the right demo tape together but this issue is starting to be relieved on all levels and all locations. But believe me there have been some real gems go totally unnoticed due to to this. Coaching biases and misinformation has also hurt some kids as well. It is a very dynamic process and there are just so many high school kids to evaluate.

 

[doc longhorn]

Yes! Just reading " Courage beyond the Game" illustrates your point so well. I really believe there are some very low ranked players that go unnoticed due to school, lack of competition, and so often no one has put together the right demo tape together but this issue is starting to be relieved on all levels and all locations. But believe me there have been some real gems go totally unnoticed due to to this. Coaching biases and misinformation has also hurt some kids as well. It is a very dynamic process and there are just so many high school kids to evaluate.

You bring up a very good point with this.  I have seen this happen, personally.  Some high school coaches, for whatever reason, can dislike a potential recruit.  When college coaches inquire about the kid, the HS coach will bad mouth the boy enough to throw a bad light on him. 

 

[HornEsch]

Very sad, but very true. I know that happens and have a friend that experienced this very same thing.

 

[texasdalton]

One of my friends older brothers played offensive line for drew brees when he was at austin westlake. Told me how there coach had favorites at the time and is why brees played backup qb until his senior year until the started was injured and out for the season. Brees takes his team to state and earned only one offer from Purdue. He said that the head coach never gave brees a chance before he had to.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

One of my friends older brothers played offensive line for drew brees when he was at austin westlake. Told me how there coach had favorites at the time and is why brees played backup qb until his senior year until the started was injured and out for the season. Brees takes his team to state and earned only one offer from Purdue. He said that the head coach never gave brees a chance before he had to.

We've all known coaches like this who played politics instead of the best player.

 

[Bear19]

Just to add two cents worth-

Wasn't Colt McCoy a three star and wasn't Garrett Gilbert a 5 star?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Just to add two cents worth-

Wasn't Colt McCoy a three star and wasn't Garrett Gilbert a 5 star?

Yep

Colt was a barely a 3-star. He probably only got rated that high after committing to UT.

 

[HornEsch]

...and honestly Colt was fairly accurately rated, in high school. He is an example of someone has those immeasurables that don't really show until college. A lot of ratings are based on situation. If you have a player at a school that does not necessarily showcase what they are capable of, the rating will reflect it.

Then with Gilbert was a product of a system that did the opposite and inflated his ranking. I do think Gilbert would have been a much better player under this staff than he was under Mack and company. However he was never a 5 star talent.

 

[Duke C #11]

"However he was never a 5 star talent. "

 Yeah, he was only the National Player of the Year. 

 

[BevoBlake]

Speaking of Gilbert and all of the Chad Morris to SMU talk lately. I've always found it slightly interesting that Chad Morris was the High School coach for two Quarterbacks that would go on to become University of Texas Quarterbacks before ultimately transferring. Jevan Snead (Stephenville) who would end up transferring to Ole Miss and Garrett Gilbert (Lake Travis) who would end up transferring to SMU. 

 

[doc longhorn]

"However he was never a 5 star talent. "

 Yeah, he was only the National Player of the Year. 

What is disturbing, today, is that Swoops is just like Gilbert was.  He has all the physical tools, like Gilbert, but is still a mental baby - like Gilbert.

 

[MikeV73]

Speaking of Gilbert and all of the Chad Morris to SMU talk lately. I've always found it slightly interesting that Chad Morris was the High School coach for two Quarterbacks that would go on to become University of Texas Quarterbacks before ultimately transferring. Jevan Snead (Stephenville) who would end up transferring to Ole Miss and Garrett Gilbert (Lake Travis) who would end up transferring to SMU.

Didn't realize Moriss was at Stephenville. Was he the HC before moving to Lake Travis? Did he ever coach with Briles, or was he long gone to the college ranks before Morris came to Stephenville?