Hopefully truth to this

[okiehorn]

http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Source-Texas-officials-all-set-to-pursue-Tom-Herman-49118423

 

[texasdalton]

Hopefully we can get herman to coach the bowl game if we can even make it to one, which i doubt

 

[okiehorn]

I think we will be ran out of the stadium against TCU. Just one mans opinion.

 

[texasdalton]

I agree

 

[shotime73]

You know what???? It's been a long damn time since I've posted anything on here simply cause I've been working my butt off lately and been extremely busy. But anyways I'm going to get this out of my chest. I had to catch up on the highlights of the game from yesterday and nothing breaks my heart more than to see these kids that tried to work there asses off to try there best to win that game for CS. I'm disgusted and beyond disbelief at this point. These kids deserve better. The fans deserve better than this. The hell with fingerpointing. The hell with screaming and shouting and all this horsebull s""""t!!!. WE deserve BETTER. I'll. give little credit. Strong is a hell of a good guy and a hell of a recruiter BUT. And I do MEAN a big ass BUT he can't get the job done. We need a damn good coach who can diversify this team both offense and defense. I for one feel for those young men right now. They know the inevitable. Again WE deserve BETTER. PERIOD.

 

[Juan]

Example of the kind of stuff our admins fear

— Twitter API (@twitterapi) November 7, 2011

 

[texbound]

Example of the kind of stuff our admins fear

— Twitter API (@twitterapi) https://twitter.com/VincentMannnnnn/status/799985789983670272" data-datetime="2011-11-07T20:21:07+00:00">November 7, 2011

He lost to Kansas. The first Texas coach in 78 years. Enough said.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

This looks to be as good a place to post this as any.

Just spoke with my source. He's somewhat connected with UH sources, given that he lives in Houston himself. He just told me that a UH alumni billionaire named Tilman Futita (sp?) has pledged $60 million to keep Herman at UH. Wow.

Meanwhile, at UT there will be no coaching search. BMDs know they want Herman. They have agreed to pay the buyouts which will total some $18.6 million but in exchange, they want UT admin to be hands off the hire set up of one person – Tom Herman. They insist on this because of the Patterson fiasco and how that was handled.

I asked if $60 million would be too steep to go and would that be the point of ridiculousness . . . he said Texas' billionaireS would not let a UH billionaire deny them of what they want.

I will neither defend or criticize this info as all I've really done here is take something my ears took in and put it to print here. 

 

[okiehorn]

That sounds Intense.... all in all I'd sure love to be sitting in hermans shoes. Yes he has earned it but he is about to get PAID. Maybe I'm just biased but if it comes down to a bidding war I'm assuming we have way more BMD is Houston. Plus weather people see it or not we STILL are Texas.

 

[Randolph Duke]

This looks to be as good a place to post this as any.

Just spoke with my source. He's somewhat connected with UH sources, given that he lives in Houston himself. He just told me that a UH alumni billionaire named Tilman Futita (sp?) has pledged $60 million to keep Herman at UH. Wow.

Meanwhile, at UT there will be no coaching search. BMDs know they want Herman. They have agreed to pay the buyouts which will total some $18.6 million but in exchange, they want UT admin to be hands off the hire set up of one person – Tom Herman. They insist on this because of the Patterson fiasco and how that was handled.

I asked if $60 million would be too steep to go and would that be the point of ridiculousness . . . he said Texas' billionaireS would not let a UH billionaire deny them of what they want.

I will neither defend or criticize this info as all I've really done here is take something my ears took in and put it to print here. 

We are six weeks from a legislative appropriations argument. If U of H spends another $60 million to guarantee a football coaches contract when they are already taking more than $20 million/yr from the academic side to subsidize the football program, the legislature is going to have a fit.

U of H is currently interviewing individuals to oversee more than $100 million in new academic buildings they want the legislature to fund. No way they get funded if U of H doesn't cut its athletics budget bloat. If the school ups the ante and blows the budget on a new contract for Herman, it will costs the university far more than they are willing to pay.

There is no way Tillman gives the legislature a big "F-U" on reigning in U of H's overspending on athletics and then goes to the legislature asking for tens of millions in additional funding for the academic side. No way in hell. Tillman's only been a U of H regent for a year. No way in hell.

A week after the University of Houston Cougars capped off a blazing-hot season with an upset win at the Peach Bowl, Eric Bittner was working in his "freezing cold" office at UH, wondering how the school could afford to spend more than $120 million on a football stadium but can't seem to keep its academic buildings warm in the winter.

"The facility management people do not have the resources to fix the air-handling in the Fleming Building. We have random power outages. We have overhead projectors in classrooms that don't work," the chemical physics professor wrote in an email. "Then we turn around and we spend a bazillion dollars on a stadium," he said in a later interview.

 
While UH's success on the football field was undeniable - on top of the bowl victory, the team went nearly undefeated and landed a No. 8 national ranking - some strife has begun to show among the spirit generated by the winning season.

UH has spent more than $21 million in each of the past three years boosting an athletics program that, like most in the nation, doesn't make enough money to sustain itself. Some have begun to wonder whether the money would be better spent recruiting top faculty or giving cost-of-living raises to teachers. The cost of attendance has spiked, driven by rising student fees that accounted for nearly 20 percent of athletic revenue in 2014.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/UH-athletics-spending-a-gamble-paying-off-so-6765976.php

 

[Sirhornsalot]

We are six weeks from a legislative appropriations argument. If U of H spends another $60 million to guarantee a football coaches contract when they are already taking more than $20 million/yr from the academic side to subsidize the football program, the legislature is going to have a fit.

U of H is currently interviewing individuals to oversee more than $100 million in new academic buildings they want the legislature to fund. No way they get funded if U of H doesn't cut its athletics budget bloat. If the school ups the ante and blows the budget on a new contract for Herman, it will costs the university far more than they are willing to pay.

There is no way Tillman gives the legislature a big "F-U" on reigning in U of H's overspending on athletics and then goes to the legislature asking for tens of millions in additional funding for the academic side. No way in hell. Tillman's only been a U of H regent for a year. No way in hell.

I don't know and really don't care, but I suspect most billionaires would read your post and just laugh.

Football is revenue generating. Academics is not. I'm sure you won't understand and will somehow try to tie this stuff to a legislature that has nothing to do with how a billionaire CHOOSES to spend his money. It would be just as awkward for a school to deny a donation from an alumni even with the stipulation of how it will be spent.

How much did the Coogs net in their bowl game last year? What did the academic side earn for the entire year? And somehow, the legislature just doesn't understand how this works? Maybe that's isolated to just you?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

BTW, here's the headline from your link, which you failed to paste here. I have no idea why. lol

UH athletics spending a 'gamble,' PAYING OFF SO FAR, but for how long?

You're right. No way in hell. lol

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

This looks to be as good a place to post this as any.

Just spoke with my source. He's somewhat connected with UH sources, given that he lives in Houston himself. He just told me that a UH alumni billionaire named Tilman Futita (sp?) has pledged $60 million to keep Herman at UH. Wow.

Meanwhile, at UT there will be no coaching search. BMDs know they want Herman. They have agreed to pay the buyouts which will total some $18.6 million but in exchange, they want UT admin to be hands off the hire set up of one person – Tom Herman. They insist on this because of the Patterson fiasco and how that was handled.

I asked if $60 million would be too steep to go and would that be the point of ridiculousness . . . he said Texas' billionaireS would not let a UH billionaire deny them of what they want.

I will neither defend or criticize this info as all I've really done here is take something my ears took in and put it to print here. 

I honestly do not want to get in a argument or pissing match but the 60 million thing was posted on OB about 3-4 days ago and was refuted by several people who would know...Now of course that does not mean Houston and its boosters are not willing to step up and actually pay him that.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

You'll get no argument from me. But he had the highest bid to buy the Astros. He's not afraid to throw around money. I'll let it play out, despite the word put out elsewhere.

 

[Randolph Duke]

I don't know and really don't care, but I suspect most billionaires would read your post and just laugh.

Football is revenue generating. Academics is not. I'm sure you won't understand and will somehow try to tie this stuff to a legislature that has nothing to do with how a billionaire CHOOSES to spend his money. It would be just as awkward for a school to deny a donation from an alumni even with the stipulation of how it will be spent.

Take another shot at those Cheerios. First round didn't take, obviously.

Just to update you, U of H is a public university. And while "football" is revenue generating, U of H football is not revenue generating. It is deficit generating. To the tune of over $20 million/yr.

Tillman can do whatever he wants with his money, but I promise you that if U of H continues to subsidize athletics, the legislature will start shutting down funding. If they have tens of millions to shift from academics to fund a money losing athletics program, the taxpayers are not going to fund those losses when TSU is only 100 yards down the street and badly in need of funds to support its academics.

Obviously, you missed last summer's Higher Education Subcommittee hearings when Khator was sitting next to McRaven, and Perry was grilling McRaven on the UT Houston initiative. "If the university has tens of millions available for other purposes (the UT Houston land purchase), maybe we need to take a closer look at how much the taxpayers are allocating to the university." U of H is worried about having to compete against UT Houston for academic staff and complaining that UT Houston might start a bidding war for academic talent in Houston and the added salary expense at U of H might detract from academic support.

But if Khator already has $20million/yr extra to shift from academic support to athletics, and then they decide to spend tens of millions more, not on academic support, but on athletics, how can the legislature accept the school doesn't have enough public funds allocated to academics? And they want to pull this stunt SIX WEEKS before the legislature meets to discuss funding for U of H!?

Tillman is a U of H regent. They will unquestionably call him to testify before the legislature for U of H's funding. And you expect him to say there is no other source of funding for the U of H academic needs other than taxpayer funding and not have Perry, Menendez and Watson tear him to pieces?

When U of H is receiving no public money and "the billionaires" are funding it exclusively, "the billionaires" can laugh all they want. As long as the taxpayers are funding the school, and the school is using student generated revenue to cover its athletics deficit, the legislature is going to have its say. U of H athletics isn't even close to being self sufficient. And the legislature has far more pressing needs for higher education allocations than funding an out of control athletics program at U of H.

If you want to see all hell break loose at U of H, just let them give Herman a $60 million contract guarantee. The money cannot come from private hands directly to the coach's pocket. Texas law prohibits public employees from accepting financial gifts for their official functions. The money has to be donated to the school and then allocated by the U of H Board of Regents. And if the U of H regents sign off on Herman's $60 million contract, the university will get crushed in the appropriations process.

You need to learn about Texas politics. Its a fascinating subject.

 

[DMAC]

Im just curious since all signs seem to be pointing to Herman.

How well does this guy recruit?  Yea I know he got Ed Oliver but it was more circumstances and family as to the reason he signed with UH.

I keep hearing he has many ties within Texas but can he pull in top 10 classes here at Texas?

 

[okiehorn]

Im just curious since all signs seem to be pointing to Herman.

How well does this guy recruit? Yea I know he got Ed Oliver but it was more circumstances and family as to the reason he signed with UH.

I keep hearing he has many ties within Texas but can he pull in top 10 classes here at Texas?

At this point I hope we find out..... not certain but I'm sure his Houston class wasn't top 10 and he went on to beat a good OU team and a hell of a Louisville team. I'd almost rather have a great coach at this point then a great recruiter..... yea both would be great but those seem tough to come by.

 

[java]

I stated this after OU.  I will summarize it quickly, and then I must run a quick errand.

We must decide who we want, and if the feeling is mutual, money should not be the issue.  I, quite frankly, agree with the donors, who want to do the hiring, though I'm sure Fenves would need to sign the contract.  If the donors are footing the bill for the buyouts and the new contract, they should do the hiring.  They are businessmen, and they know how to do it.  Let the lawyers write the contracts, that's fine and dandy, but it's absurd for an academic to screw up a hire, like Powers did with Patterson, that set The University AD back.  Fenves should understand that.  It's not his fault, but it's costing the BMD's millions to fix Powers' mistake, not Fenves', Powers'.  These guys didn't make millions by being fools.  

We need to get our guy, not question every move, and get out of the way.  

 

[java]

btw, if LSU and Oregon get into it, too, it may go higher.  It could go high enough that other hats go into the ring.  We may find out just how much an elite football coach is worth, because we need one.

College football playoffs, baby!