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Hold em high along with your pom poms. I know that mediocrity is irrelevant for the cheerleader types.
I believe your reaction is very similar to many in OU country when Stoops was hired. Speaking of Stoops, I believed he did a good job of schooling the master (Saban) last night. You just never know which is why you might want to give coach Strong a chance before you call him mediocre.

 
I'm shocked that Patterson made this choice. Certainly didn't warrant all this drama. If this is all he was going to do should have just kept Mack. He'll Central Florida beat him. I'm out....
How many UL games have you actually watched? I can guarantee you we will not lose a game because of 3 blocked punts like Mr. Football!

 
If this comes to pass, what did the University of Texas do?
1. The Athletic Director, against the push of a lot of old guard donors who helped to poison the program they funded, hired the guy he felt was the best man for the job. He didn't shamelessly smooch the posteriors of two old men, he did what he felt was best for business.

2. Its proven the reach was made to the best man for any college job, and he said no. Its also proven the guy who wouldnt put aside his own ego for the betterment of the school and his president wrecked that opportunity. Even then, the job got done, and we were allegedly on the table with the man at 2 minutes till midnight twice. He chose to stay where he is. No loss there. Its not like this man would even have given a thought to any other school.

3. The AD didn't panic and go try to money whip his way into someone else. He vetted candidates, negotiated, and maybe placated a BMD ego or two. He was faced with a guy who said Ill take the job but I dont want to interview for it and had the stones to send him back from whence he came. He went out and found his guy, a guy who was apparently willing to wait and prove he was the man for the job, a man who apparently wants to be a Longhorn and lead this program back to the promised land.

4. Austin prides itself as a tolerant city. Its students are much the same. "What starts here changes the world", and yet up until January 4th 2014, no black man had ever headed up a major sports program here. That likely changes today. Welcome to the 21st century. Welcome to changing the world.

5. You wanted a defensive minded, Xs and Os type coach with passion, discipline, and the ability to find and develop QB talent. You got it.

So there are my five thoughts on this. We settled for nothing.
THIS, plus we got a guy who has a track record of stopping Stoops;-)

 
It is my understanding that Strong had in his contract if he left for certain schools of which Texas was one there would be no buyout.

 
Im sure Randolph can get us a look at his contract. The buy out isnt a huge deal regardless.

 
Sickening! WTF??? This is a complete "settle" hire. What a stupid move by Patterson. Can we fire him yet?
Hope you're not a student of The University nor an alumni. You're free to cheer for the team of your choice.

 
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If anything, I think I need to start hitting the bottle after this announcement. We're Aggie copy cats
Really?You have no clue how that interview went to start making that remark. Your more scared of aggie than to give credit to the athletic director for giving Texas its 1st black coach.

I wanted Harbaugh/Saban but even the Natl media is giving Texas credit.

Like Chris Carter says... C'mon man!

 
If this comes to pass, what did the University of Texas do?
1. The Athletic Director, against the push of a lot of old guard donors who helped to poison the program they funded, hired the guy he felt was the best man for the job. He didn't shamelessly smooch the posteriors of two old men, he did what he felt was best for business.

2. Its proven the reach was made to the best man for any college job, and he said no. Its also proven the guy who wouldnt put aside his own ego for the betterment of the school and his president wrecked that opportunity. Even then, the job got done, and we were allegedly on the table with the man at 2 minutes till midnight twice. He chose to stay where he is. No loss there. Its not like this man would even have given a thought to any other school.

3. The AD didn't panic and go try to money whip his way into someone else. He vetted candidates, negotiated, and maybe placated a BMD ego or two. He was faced with a guy who said Ill take the job but I dont want to interview for it and had the stones to send him back from whence he came. He went out and found his guy, a guy who was apparently willing to wait and prove he was the man for the job, a man who apparently wants to be a Longhorn and lead this program back to the promised land.

4. Austin prides itself as a tolerant city. Its students are much the same. "What starts here changes the world", and yet up until January 4th 2014, no black man had ever headed up a major sports program here. That likely changes today. Welcome to the 21st century. Welcome to changing the world.

5. You wanted a defensive minded, Xs and Os type coach with passion, discipline, and the ability to find and develop QB talent. You got it.

So there are my five thoughts on this. We settled for nothing.
Phenomenal post. I'm still gonna need a short time to mourn the loss of my 'FAHQ BAMA' dreams, but I'm pumped about Strong. Get in the water, y'all! It's gonna be an exciting ride!

 
Wow I am disappointed for sure. Not sure if it was worth pushing Mack out now.
I totally disagree, even if it's natural to reflect on that for a second---but no more than that! :)
Let's not forget the VASTLY underachieving, entitlement-oriented train wreck that the program has now been for several years under Mack Brown. Strong, I don't believe, ever would allow such a dreadful, repeated defensive performance that Mack has and will be many times greater in accountability and toughness.

 
Texas was turned down by our top choices. I'm shocked.
The candidate that politic the hardest for the job, is going to end up with the job.

As mentioned earlier today, Strong offered the safety net and had no qualms about being a contingency plan unlike Art Briles.

Strong sold himself as one that could bring the all star coaching staff to Texas.

Expect Texas to go after Chad Morris as the OC and Ed O as the DC.

Darrell

That doesn't hurt my feelings. . .

But does this mean there is or isn't a place for Vance Bedford?

 
That doesn't hurt my feelings. . .
But does this mean there is or isn't a place for Vance Bedford?
My guess is that Bedford comes with Strong. I do hope, however, that Strong can pull Ed Orgeron in as well.

 
I just went from someone that frequents the boards and follows Texas football all the time to someone that will just watch the games on TV Saturdays in the Fall. We are going nowhere.
I hate Mack Brown as much as I hate Obama. They both suck and HATE is the correct emotion.

What a dud hire.
Love me some Mack Brown and all that he did (which is not the case with the political guy. . .you are right there) but doesn't mean it wasn't time. . ..and it always comess "time". . .with coaches. . .hope I make it through 3-5 more of these

We had many a discussions about GD . . .you were far more wrong than right about him.. . .I'll wager (steaks in 2017 should be enough time) you are equally wrong about CS. . .think he is going to do VERY WELL here. . .

 
Really?You have no clue how that interview went to start making that remark. Your more scared of aggie than to give credit to the athletic director for giving Texas its 1st black coach.
I wanted Harbaugh/Saban but even the Natl media is giving Texas credit.

Like Chris Carter says... C'mon man!
I hope to be giving credit to the AD for finding UT its next icon Head Football Coach; regardless of his ethicity. If UT hired Strong because he is black, then we hired him for the worst and wrong reason. I will be judging Coach Strong on his wins and loses and how the program is perceived; not on the amount of pigmentation in his skin. I do hope the talk about him being the first "black" coach at UT dies quickly and we in turn focus on instead what Coach Strong brings to the table in terms of his football skills and what he actually accomplishes when given the chance.

 
As many have already said, if we get the OC right, I think the other pieces are in place. Then again, when have we really had the OC right? Was GD the right one or were our quarterbacks so good (during the 10 win run) it was more them than GD? Not a GD basher and not bashing...just wondering? Harsin was not here long enough to know about him and I'm pretty sure we can agree Major has been less than stellar.

 
I'm a bit confused by all the negativity about the Strong hiring. It was not all that long ago that we were puffing out our chests and the aggys were shaking in their boots when Muschamp was hired and soon declared our coach-in-waiting. We were spouting that a defensive minded coach was just what we needed when Mack stepped down because the "soft" label whispers were just beginning. Now keep in mind' date=' Muschamp had never been a head coach so he had no skins on the wall...but we were ok with this.
Strong seems to me to be pretty much the same as Muschamp, learned under quality coaches Lou Holtz and Urban Meyers, considered a great defensive mind, great recruiter, demands a lot from his players, etc. but there is one difference. He has been a head coach for 4 years and does have some skins on the wall. He has made Louisville a respectable program again and won a few bowl games...one a major upset. BTW...I think we all can agree that coach Muschamp has not exactly lived up to expectations as a head coach...yet.

So, if we were so comfortable with someone taking over the UT program with no coaching experience why the apprehension for coach Strong. I get it, I wanted Saban too, but I'm excited about coach Strong because he is excited to be here...just like Muschamp was until Mack soured it for him. Let's give him a chance before we already talk about going through this again in 4 years.[/quote']

Don't let facts get in the way of a good old fashioned board meltdown. Good points and time will tell. Strong needs to go ahead and accept as well from what's being reported.
 
Really?You have no clue how that interview went to start making that remark. Your more scared of aggie than to give credit to the athletic director for giving Texas its 1st black coach.
I wanted Harbaugh/Saban but even the Natl media is giving Texas credit.

Like Chris Carter says... C'mon man!
Unlike others, I give no weight to the "1st Black Coach" thing. I think that is a bunch of political clap trap. I could care less if the coach is black, green, yellow or purple. I evaluate records / resume's performance. Now that being said, for bettor or worse, having a black coach may have some stroke with black athletes. Is that a benefit? Possibly, but a minor one in my book. Once again, it all boils down to performance. Players want to play for a winner. Skin color may be a factor for some, but I think winning is even more important; winning and a chance to get to the NFL for the players. Young kids are motivated by their own self interest and much as any of us are.

So what are the criteria for a head coach at Texas? everyone has an opinion -

1) Proven winner

2) Recruiting ability

3) Talent Development

4) Game Day Coaching

5) Motivating players

and to a lesser degree

6) public presence

7) relating to BMD's

8) political savvy.

Show me one guy who is an A+ in all those categories? Nick Saban would have put butts in the stands instantly. He would have also brought culture change and would have met a lot of the criteria above, but not all. A lot of folks are disappointed that we didn't get CNS. Take the emotion of the disappointment out of it for a minute and get back to the criteria. If CNS were off the table from the very beginning, I think Charlie Strong would have been on a lot of peoples list as a viable option. He meets a lot of the criteria I listed above, but once again, not all. I don't think it is humanly possible for one person to be all of those things. But does he meet the important criteria? I think his resume shows he is pretty effective as a coach. I also think he has an uphill fight. The program has been in a pretty sloppy state for a while. There will be attitudes to overcome because we didn't get the sexy hire we wanted, and because the players are soft and spoiled. Going to be tough sledding for Coach Strong for a good while. As fans, we will have to give it some time. If we hired a good COACH (which by all accounts Strong is) then Texas will be winning again soon and the rest will take care of itself. Winning fixes everything. I would encourage everyone to support Coach Strong and give him a fair chance. For better or worse that is the way it is.

Go Stronghorns!!

 
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