Conference Realignment Discussion

[dssl]

I don't think anything else happens until Notre Dame makes a choice - stay ACC or go B1G.

• SEC will try to poach from ACC if ND goes B1G. Grant of Rights be damned.
  
• Big 12 should try to get AZ, ASU, CO, and Utah, but maybe Pac-12 backfills with SDSU + Colorado St or another MTN school?
  

What a mess this is. I can't decide whose geography is worse - the new Big 12 or B1G's.

Mostly agree,  except I don't see the SEC going after any ACC teams, unless they can resolve the grant of rights issue first. The SEC is already in a great position , and the potential ACC teams won't move the needle on per team payouts, so I don't think that's a fight worth fighting. 

 

[TFloss32]

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[J.B. TexasEx]

Mostly agree,  except I don't see the SEC going after any ACC teams, unless they can resolve the grant of rights issue first. The SEC is already in a great position , and the potential ACC teams won't move the needle on per team payouts, so I don't think that's a fight worth fighting. 

Depends on how strongly the ACC's GoR is worded. I've seen posts stating that ND will only be on the hook for their non-football sports if they join the B1G. Now, everybody else may have to forfeit their TV monies until 2036.

If so, you're probably right. But, I'm not a contract lawyer.

 

[TFloss32]

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[63_Texas_1]

Just thinking out loud and it doesn't really matters now, but wondered how things would have evolved had Texas and others would have gone to Pac 10 (as it was know then). One thing is certain: aggy would still be aggy - insecure and full of themselves. 

 

[hookemhorb]

I'm wondering if WV is going to bolt from the Big 12 and try to join the ACC or SEC. The travel for them is just too much if Mountain or West Coast teams join the Big 12. It'll be interesting if the Big 12 adds an even or odd number of teams. The Big 1G is a possibility if they can solve the travel issue.

Of course WV bolting would make too much sense for big money football.

 

[TB14]

I'm wondering if WV is going to bolt from the Big 12 and try to join the ACC or SEC. The travel for them is just too much if Mountain or West Coast teams join the Big 12. It'll be interesting if the Big 12 adds an even or odd number of teams. The Big 1G is a possibility if they can solve the travel issue.

Of course WV bolting would make too much sense for big money football.

I bet they'd love to bolt for either of those... I just don't think either one wants them.

 

[TB14]

Rutgers and Maryland got in to open east coast tv markets to the Big 10. They had to have those teams to be shown in NYC, DC, etc. However, the TV landscape has changed drastically since then. Now, TV companies aren't so worried about which market the game is shown but how many subscriptions the game will bring. TV companies are making tons of money from the subscription packages. What that means for the conference is just bring in the biggest name schools you can.

 

[TB14]

Also, so many of these secondary power 5 schools seem to be worried about getting an invite to a bigger conference. I don't think that will ever come. I'd be more concerned trying to form my own super conference. Pac 12- Big 12 merger would seem to make a lot of sense to me.

 

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[Big Daddy Cane]

Mostly agree,  except I don't see the SEC going after any ACC teams, unless they can resolve the grant of rights issue first. The SEC is already in a great position , and the potential ACC teams won't move the needle on per team payouts, so I don't think that's a fight worth fighting. 

The gor will definitely be an issue, but adding Clemson, NC, FSU And Miami would be worth kicking the tires 

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Also, so many of these secondary power 5 schools seem to be worried about getting an invite to a bigger conference. I don't think that will ever come. I'd be more concerned trying to form my own super conference. Pac 12- Big 12 merger would seem to make a lot of sense to me.

Those are my thoughts also. Why not simply merge before you get picked apart? The pac12 and big12 both have new comissioners that are a bit out of the box from what we're used to. Both are marketing guys and deal makers. I wouldn't be shocked in the least if they merged. Their star power is lacking, but they would be stronger together.

 

[Wayne]

I'm wondering if WV is going to bolt from the Big 12 and try to join the ACC or SEC. The travel for them is just too much if Mountain or West Coast teams join the Big 12. It'll be interesting if the Big 12 adds an even or odd number of teams. The Big 1G is a possibility if they can solve the travel issue.

Of course WV bolting would make too much sense for big money football.

I don't think WV has the cache to get into the Big 10 or SEC.    They have nothing to offer.

 

[Baron]

Let’s just ask why doesn’t the PAC10 add the six best Big 12 teams?  Current PAC 10 with BYU, Ok St, tech, Kansas, Baylor, and one other. Big 12 is dead and we get out. 

Change Kansas to TCU.

All the moves except Texas-OU are scheduled for 2024. There's no way Texas-OU get stuck in the little 12 til 2025

 

[Baron]

I don't think WV has the cache to get into the Big 10 or SEC.    They have nothing to offer.

WVU is perfect for the ACC

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Rutgers and Maryland got in to open east coast tv markets to the Big 10. They had to have those teams to be shown in NYC, DC, etc. However, the TV landscape has changed drastically since then. Now, TV companies aren't so worried about which market the game is shown but how many subscriptions the game will bring. TV companies are making tons of money from the subscription packages. What that means for the conference is just bring in the biggest name schools you can.

Points awarded because you worked the word "landscape" into the post.

Carry on.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

WVU is perfect for the ACC

If WVU "is perfect" for the ACC, they would've gotten in along with BC, Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville. But, they didn't.

 

[dssl]

WVU is perfect for the ACC

For geographic reasons and rivalries WV would much prefer the ACC or the SEC.  Obviously they are too small of a market for the SEC. 

I'm sure WV reached out to the ACC when TX and OU announced they were heading to the SEC. Obviously the ACC turned them down,  just like they did before they joined the BIG12. No reason to believe anything has changed.

 

[Baron]

If WVU "is perfect" for the ACC, they would've gotten in along with BC, Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville. But, they didn't.

Today's environment is different than it was ten years ago. I don't think the ACC is going to reach out to the west coast to make 16 teams.