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BREAKING: CUMBIE IS A NO

If true, then that would totally change my perception of what Cumbie has done and why.

 
Sirhornsalot said:
Ok, but I think it's on you to understand that not everyone plays by your definitions. What I put into print is what I'm told. I don't edit anything to suit anyone's taste or hidden definitions.

I do not have an agenda, much less one that is "driven." (lol)

I don't think anyone else I know of has an agenda, either. And I don't think for a second that you could even name what agenda that would be.

The phone rings, I post. People are free to believe it or not believe it. But some seem to just lose their shit over this stuff and that's who I was talking to.

What is harmful to the university is subjective and depends on who you speak with. Some people think clearly that way, some simply don't. I don't think anything EVER posted on a message board will EVER affect (either way) what a university does or doesn't do. You may think different and thats fine.
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You don't think all the so called insiders that were being used by a few just a few ago about Strong being out was not agenda driven? They wanted to influence public opinion and get the pulse of the fanbase. And all it did was damage the university and the football program. 

 
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Sirhornsalot said:
My opinion of Cumbie has sunk today. He opted for safety, for the security of not having everything on him. He can say what he wants and no doubt he means it, but it does wreak of well, lack of testicular fortitude, IMO.

He had a chance to become something other than an offensive backdrop, someone who drove the bus himself and could hang his name around something he built. Instead, he went back to the safety of Meachum's shadow.

I don't get the knee-jerk against the insiders. Obviously Cumbie thought it over and changed his mind about coming. Some people just get too butthurt over such things and it's probably just not worth it in the first place. I really get tired of the constant animosity that is simply inexplicable.
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Not going to pass judgment on Cumbie. Obviously what we see on these boards and what is really going on in somebody's life are quite different. We simply can't begin to understand all that went on with him and his wife as they worked through what was a really tough decision for them. 

 
According to  Higs --

The stumbling block was a 3rd year guaranteed.

We offered 2.

Cumbie would not take the job the 3rd year

We were never going to give a 3rd

 
Sirhornsalot said:
Ok, but I think it's on you to understand that not everyone plays by your definitions. What I put into print is what I'm told. I don't edit anything to suit anyone's taste or hidden definitions.

I do not have an agenda, much less one that is "driven." (lol)

I don't think anyone else I know of has an agenda, either. And I don't think for a second that you could even name what agenda that would be.

The phone rings, I post. People are free to believe it or not believe it. But some seem to just lose their shit over this stuff and that's who I was talking to.

What is harmful to the university is subjective and depends on who you speak with. Some people think clearly that way, some simply don't. I don't think anything EVER posted on a message board will EVER affect (either way) what a university does or doesn't do. You may think different and thats fine.
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First, I want to say that I have no problem whatsoever with posters like yourself sharing information that they have received from their sources/insiders. I actually enjoy reading it. 

Second, what I have come to learn over the years is that insiders will either be right or they will be right until they are wrong. In other words, something happened to affect what they were saying. Sometimes something really did happen to change the narrative and sometimes the source/insider is just covering their butt. And we never know which one it really is. And I'm okay with that. 

Two final thoughts. I do believe that insiders/sources do have biases and in some cases an agenda. And I don't believe for a second that anything posted on a message board affects with an university does or doesn't do. 

 
MBHORNSFAN said:
You don't think all the so called insiders that were being used by a few just a few ago about Strong being out was not agenda driven? They wanted to influence public opinion and get the pulse of the fanbase. And all it did was damage the university and the football program. 
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No, I think you're a victim of your own thinking. You have no proof, no evidence whatsoever of what you just said. But you're running with it and spreading your wrath anyway. And you're the one claiming to take exception to that very thing.

No, I do not think I am manipulated to get Strong out. I cannot get Strong out. You can't either. This entire board combined cannot get Strong out. All boards combined cannot get Strong out. The guy who told me that doesn't even know I post on a UT board. Yes, thats how silly this is.

What I was told when I was told was true. It came on the heals of Iowa State's shutout of us. People were pissed. They're still pissed but obviously cooler heads prevailed.

As for Cumbie, again, things develop. Why jump when you know you're about to given the reigns and some more cash? Meachum to Tulane was an unknown. Stuff happens.

It's really that simple. No conspiracy at work.

 
Juan Grande said:
According to  Higs --

The stumbling block was a 3rd year guaranteed.

We offered 2.

Cumbie would not take the job the 3rd year

We were never going to give a 3rd
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Chip Brown is now sort of backing up this story

But he adds that we were offering 2 years guaranteed, with a 3rd year option

Seems like a small difference for us to draw a line in the sand over

 
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Meacham is on a recruiting trip for TCU right now.

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Yea makes sense.  Tulane hires fast or maybe we are just slow 

 
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