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Baylor running thread.

UPDATE: USA Today’s Dan Wolken confirmed said faction among the Baylor community exists but it is “few in number†and the moment is “unlikely to result in any action.â€
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After the Stanford swimmer case, Baylor better trend very lightly here or it could back-fire on them even worse than it already has.

 
So bailor is planning to have its signees play for them under duress. Disgusting.

 
You can't make this s*** up. Unbelievable.

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Chip Brown breaking news is sometimes on, sometimes not.

The way I look at Chip is that he is good at cultivating sources.

And he reports what his sources tell him.  I dont think he lies or makes stuff up.

But I do think he gets used (like a tool).

This is just my opinion, but I think his sources often use him to float ideas or trial balloons -- to gauge the reaction.

Chip is simply reporting what his sources told him.

He takes a lot of grief when the reports turn out to be wrong.

I think his flaw, to the extent he has one, is a failure in critical thinking.  To state it in simpler terms, his bullshit meter is broken.  Indeed, it may have never worked well from the start.

 
Juan Grande said:
Chip Brown breaking news is sometimes on, sometimes not.

The way I look at Chip is that he is good at cultivating sources.

And he reports what his sources tell him. I dont think he lies or makes stuff up.

But I do think he gets used (like a tool).

This is just my opinion, but I think his sources often use him to float ideas or trial balloons -- to gauge the reaction.

Chip is simply reporting what his sources told him.

He takes a lot of grief when the reports turn out to be wrong.

I think his flaw, to the extent he has one, is a failure in critical thinking. To state it in simpler terms, his bullshit meter is broken. Indeed, it may have never worked well from the start.
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He is histrionic. Which translates into he is very gullible. I never believe anything he writes unless it is confirmed elsewhere.

 
Wow, I told myself when I read "suspension with intent to terminate" would end up being just a suspension. But part of me thought surely Baylor will try to separate itself from all this. Pffftt. Not at all.

This will not go away. They refuse to fire assistants who participated in the cover up. They run full page ads congratulating Ken Starr. Then they bring back the guy who orchestrated it.

Meanwhile, the campus at Baylor became less safe because after all of this – it was only ever about not missing a beat on the gridiron, period.

The Southern Baptist Convention might have something to say to Baylor soon. 

 
If they do this, then the Big 12 member schools should draft an amendment to the bylaws, if necessary, to oust Baylor from the conference.

I'm advocating this, not as a woman, but as a college football fan. If Baylor brings Briles back, it can hurt the Conference. How, you might ask? It will hurt the Conference because if they win, the College Football Playoff Committee will never put them in the playoffs. If they aren't good, they bring nothing to the table. I can even see TV not wanting to broadcast games Baylor plays due to objections from advertisers.

Anne Richards got her way. Her little, bratty school got into the Big 12, and they blew it. Instead of sucking it up, they want to bring back the coach who enabled rapists.

I have one question. Whatever happened to the Out Cry requirements? Gimme a break.

 
Some excerpts:

"A lawsuit filed Wednesday against Baylor University cites three women as victims of sexual assault, including one who said she was assaulted by a Bears football player ON CAMPUS in April 2014."

--So there goes the "everything was off campus" "argument"

"The other two alleged assailants are not identified as athletes"

-So it's not just football players that get away with it.

The woman in Wednesday's lawsuit who reported the assault involving the football player stated that she went to a university physician two days after the incident, and the physician "misinformed Jane Doe 1 and concealed from Jane Doe 1 as to her options to further report the incident," according to the lawsuit.

"The lawsuit stated that she also reported the alleged assault to the Baylor campus advocacy center during final exams, but the university did not provide her any assistance, and she was "left to cope with the situation alone and in fear.""..."Stress caused her to perform poorly in her classes. She lost her academic scholarship and dropped out after fall 2015."

"The second incident detailed in the lawsuit alleges an assault from 2004... She reported it to her chaplain at the Baylor dorm and the dorm hall director was informed. She also made a report to Baylor police, whom she states misinformed and concealed from her the consequences for filing a report, which discouraged her from naming the person whom she said assaulted her. When she went to the Baylor Health Center, she said they did a physical exam, but no rape kit...she ended up reporting the incident to an assistant dean -- who later encouraged her to withdraw from school after her grades began to suffer"

" The third woman stated that she and her alleged assailant were both staff members at the university dorms and that she was sexually harassed and assaulted by him from fall 2013 through December 2015. Although the lawsuit did not name him, it stated that he was "an assistant to the highest officials in the University."...she sought counseling in fall 2014, but after she exhausted her free sessions, the Baylor counseling center told her she'd have to look elsewhere for treatment. The lawsuit states that she also reported the alleged assault to the health center, and eventually to Baylor police"

" Attorney John Clune of Boulder, Colorado, who represented the former Baylor women's soccer player in her case against the school, told Outside the Lines last month that he might have as many as three additional victims who might file lawsuits against Baylor."

 
Per Chip:

"Two sources close to the situation told HornsDigest.com Wednesday a push by an influential group of big-money donors to bring Art Briles back as Baylor's football coach after a one-year suspension is dead and that contract settlement talks between Briles and the school are under way."

 
I asked a friend (BU grad, wife's bestfriend's husband) about the reinstatement of Briles since he initially said, "Finally, someone is thinking straight" to an article on a FB newsfeed. I asked him what would he think if his daughter had been involved. His reply,

First of all, regardless of how we feel or think, we cannot predict how another human being is going to turn out. In fact some well respected individuals turn out to be serial killers. Which gets back to Briles. He can't predict what his players are going to do in the future. As such, those who do wrong should be punished. Yet, college coaches have no experience in conducting criminal investigations. Which is why those were turned over to local authorities to investigate. Obviously some were prosecuted others were not. The local authorities should be the ones answering for those who were not. If the board of regents felt the player should not be a Baylor student, they have the ability to make that happen. Obviously that didn't happen. So in essence the one who's taking the most heat is the one who may just have been told it was being handled when it wasn't.

:wacko:

 
 
I read this and am still not 100% sure what he is saying.

He admits he was close with Briles in the past, but also concedes he has not read the report.

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Definitely prefer Charlie's rules to this guy's approach --

PTA said:
I asked a friend (BU grad, wife's bestfriend's husband) about the reinstatement of Briles since he initially said, "Finally, someone is thinking straight" to an article on a FB newsfeed. I asked him what would he think if his daughter had been involved. His reply,

First of all, regardless of how we feel or think, we cannot predict how another human being is going to turn out. In fact some well respected individuals turn out to be serial killers. Which gets back to Briles. He can't predict what his players are going to do in the future. As such, those who do wrong should be punished. Yet, college coaches have no experience in conducting criminal investigations. Which is why those were turned over to local authorities to investigate. Obviously some were prosecuted others were not. The local authorities should be the ones answering for those who were not. If the board of regents felt the player should not be a Baylor student, they have the ability to make that happen. Obviously that didn't happen. So in essence the one who's taking the most heat is the one who may just have been told it was being handled when it wasn't.
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