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All Things Politics Thread

Man,

Why is the left sooo much more interested in non US citizens than actual US citizens?????

What part of illegal does the left simply not understand????

As noem stated, which you should listen to, God created us to serve others. Not God created us to serve only US citizens.
 
As noem stated, which you should listen to, God created us to serve others. Not God created us to serve only US citizens.
The US government owes it support to its citizens. Allowing anyone to simply come into this country unvetted is a disservice to that country’s citizens.

I have nothing against Christian charity and do my fair share. Many on the right do the same. They give from their own money. The left think charity involves the government and therefore the giving of someone else’s money. That is not charity.
 
The US government owes it support to its citizens. Allowing anyone to simply come into this country unvetted is a disservice to that country’s citizens.

I have nothing against Christian charity and do my fair share. Many on the right do the same. They give from their own money. The left think charity involves the government and therefore the giving of someone else’s money. That is not charity.


You're like a contradiction within a contradiction.

People give their own money whether they’re left or right. You seem to be stuck in a narrow view that charity only counts when it’s personal but that ignores how society works. Government programs like FEMA, Social Security, and refugee aid exist because we collectively decide to care for people. Charity isn't diminished just because it's through the government.

My guess is that you support programs like FEMA, Social Security so that the government can support it's citizens, yet it appears that you reject the idea that government can be a vehicle for compassion or relief. The programs mentioned above all reflect the government being that vehicle. That is charity, just scaled to meet the needs of a nation.

Calling it theft when it's your tax dollars, but virtue when it's your donation, doesn’t make the outcome less charitable; just more self-serving.

I must’ve missed the verse, love your neighbor...only if they’re citizens, or whatsoever you do for the least of these... make sure they’re citizens first. If you believe that God created us to serve others, you shouldn't have to check for a passport. It’s wild how quickly “Christian charity” gets limited to ZIP codes when it becomes inconvenient.

People on both sides of the political aisle give, personally and through policy. Pretending one side has a monopoly on virtue just because their charity fits your preferred method misses the bigger picture of what it means to live in a society.
 
You're like a contradiction within a contradiction.

People give their own money whether they’re left or right. You seem to be stuck in a narrow view that charity only counts when it’s personal but that ignores how society works. Government programs like FEMA, Social Security, and refugee aid exist because we collectively decide to care for people. Charity isn't diminished just because it's through the government.

My guess is that you support programs like FEMA, Social Security so that the government can support it's citizens, yet it appears that you reject the idea that government can be a vehicle for compassion or relief. The programs mentioned above all reflect the government being that vehicle. That is charity, just scaled to meet the needs of a nation.

Calling it theft when it's your tax dollars, but virtue when it's your donation, doesn’t make the outcome less charitable; just more self-serving.

I must’ve missed the verse, love your neighbor...only if they’re citizens, or whatsoever you do for the least of these... make sure they’re citizens first. If you believe that God created us to serve others, you shouldn't have to check for a passport. It’s wild how quickly “Christian charity” gets limited to ZIP codes when it becomes inconvenient.

People on both sides of the political aisle give, personally and through policy. Pretending one side has a monopoly on virtue just because their charity fits your preferred method misses the bigger picture of what it means to live in a society.
I paid into social security and therefore I am entitled to my benefits. Those that did not pay into it do not deserve any benefits.

The Bible says you need to do an honest days wage for an honest day’s wage.

The US had been the most charitable country in history. And we do offer a way to enter into our country legally. But to say you can simply walk into our country and then expect and benefits is stealing from those that are entitled to them.

I guess if I am broke I should expect to walk into a bank and expect them to give me money simply because I want some. To not give me any money is not being very charitable is it?

Churches are the place to find charity, not government. Churchs know when people are truly in need or if yet another handout simply enables a person to continue to make bad choices or destructive behavior.

Used to be having a child out of wedlock was a public shame. A woman thought twice before having sex with a man because he would be needed to help support the child. Now, the more bastard children you have, the bigger the government check you get. Look at what that has done to the black community.

FEMA allows people to build where they should not; knowing not if but when their home floods the government ( us) will gladly pay for a new house. If no FEMA, perhaps less building in flood plains.

I put my faith in churches, not government.
 
As noem stated, which you should listen to, God created us to serve others. Not God created us to serve only US citizens.
If they come here and are willing to work that is one thing. If they came here to collect welfare they need to hit the road.
 
If they come here and are willing to work that is one thing. If they came here to collect welfare they need to hit the road.

Agreed. But the majority don't come here just to be on welfare. And I think you would agree that it doesn't just apply to immigrants.
 
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