A question that Mack supporters don't want to answer

[hornrush]

With all of this, "...Mack doesn't want to make this about himself..." "...he wants the focus on the players..." "...he's telling the recruits that he's coming back..." and "...he wants to meet with the new AD..."

No one, not the (OB) mods or anyone else has a good answer to this question.

What happens if we get blown out by Baylor, okie state style?

Mack could've lit a fire under his team, used all of the good will he's built and gone out in style, win or lose but if his team gets blown off the field next Saturday, all those words about the players and focus and all of that good will goes right down the tubes. Would there by any good will left to even give him a lift out of town?

If this happens and THEN he resigns, how does that make him and his legacy look?

Hook'em!

 

[Topstarr]

With all of this, "...Mack doesn't want to make this about himself..." "...he wants the focus on the players..." "...he's telling the recruits that he's coming back..." and "...he wants to meet with the new AD..."
No one, not the (OB) mods or anyone else has a good answer to this question.

What happens if we get blown out by Baylor, okie state style?

Mack could've lit a fire under his team, used all of the good will he's built and gone out in style, win or lose but if his team gets blown off the field next Saturday, all those words about the players and focus and all of that good will goes right down the tubes. Would there by any good will left to even give him a lift out of town?

If this happens and THEN he resigns, how does that make him and his legacy look?

Hook'em!

not a very good look!

 

[UTfish]

With all of this, "...Mack doesn't want to make this about himself..." "...he wants the focus on the players..." "...he's telling the recruits that he's coming back..." and "...he wants to meet with the new AD..."
No one, not the (OB) mods or anyone else has a good answer to this question.

What happens if we get blown out by Baylor, okie state style?

Mack could've lit a fire under his team, used all of the good will he's built and gone out in style, win or lose but if his team gets blown off the field next Saturday, all those words about the players and focus and all of that good will goes right down the tubes. Would there by any good will left to even give him a lift out of town?

If this happens and THEN he resigns, how does that make him and his legacy look?

Hook'em!

I don't mind answering that question, hornrush. It hasn't happened yet. Obviously you and some of the other mouthy Mack haters hope that does happen so you can fell justified in writing that crap. If it does indeed happen, then go ahead and have your say. I'm sure Patterson will need your help in making a decision about Mack Brown's future.

 

[Hoekem]

i don't mind answering that question, hornrush. It hasn't happened yet. Obviously you and some of the other mouthy mack haters hope that does happen so you can fell justified in writing that crap. If it does indeed happen, then go ahead and have your say. I'm sure patterson will need your help in making a decision about mack brown's future.

smh

 

[DougNTexas]

UTFish this isn't Orangebloods. You might want to go back quickly instead of being on attack mode over here.

 

[Lord Vader]

I'll bite. Why am I (and the bulk of American Media) NOT justified in writing that "crap"?

 

[hornrush]

I don't mind answering that question, hornrush. It hasn't happened yet. Obviously you and some of the other mouthy Mack haters hope that does happen so you can fell justified in writing that crap. If it does indeed happen, then go ahead and have your say. I'm sure Patterson will need your help in making a decision about Mack Brown's future.

Fish,

I realize that this is a polarizing issue for so very many of us. Your assumption of me "hating Mack" is probably easy and without rancor, I understand where it comes from. Just as I understand where the acidic venom from some who want to run Mack out of town on a rail. But try and look at my question with some dispassion.

If Mack is in his final year, and by so very many accounts it would seem to be so, why would he wait until after a potential blow-out loss? Don't forget, Mack and Co. got humbled pretty good by an oSu team at home. So again, how do you think its going to look (if it is a big blowout) to come then and announce his retirement? At least this week, he goes out with nearly everyone saying thank you. What would the sentiment be after a big loss to Baylor?

Of course, if its a close loss or if Texas pulls the upset, then this is all moot. But the question no one wanted to answer today is that if Mack is truly going to resign, why wouldn't he do it when he's dealing the cards and in control of the deck instead of going all in without knowing what's he's about to be dealt?

Hook'em!

 

[Hoekem]

I don't mind answering that question, hornrush. It hasn't happened yet. Obviously you and some of the other mouthy Mack haters hope that does happen so you can fell justified in writing that crap. If it does indeed happen, then go ahead and have your say. I'm sure Patterson will need your help in making a decision about Mack Brown's future.

I (and probably most people) don't hate Mack, I just love UT more!!!

 

[BigPhil76]

I am no Mack defender, I think his time has come and gone. I know a lot of coaches and speak to a few weekly. Mack is not unlike most in the profession. They have a short memory and only look to the next game in season. All they concern themselves with is the next opponent. I hear this all the time. I think Mack knows the end is near if not VERY near. I also think he blocks that out and remains focused on the week ahead. If he is indeed being asked to step down, I am certain he has asked the powers to be to allow him to finish the season and then analyze the situation. Now, with that said; we can bash or boast Mack's accomplishments and shortcomings all we want, but the bottom line is there are decisions being made that we are not privy to and we will have to wait to see what manifests from those. It would serve all parties well to take a chill and know that we will all know very soon what the outcome of the situation will be.

 

[The Tower]

I don't mind answering that question, hornrush. It hasn't happened yet. Obviously you and some of the other mouthy Mack haters hope that does happen so you can fell justified in writing that crap. If it does indeed happen, then go ahead and have your say. I'm sure Patterson will need your help in making a decision about Mack Brown's future.

wow. did i just read that?

 

[HornNdriftwood]

With all of this, "...Mack doesn't want to make this about himself..." "...he wants the focus on the players..." "...he's telling the recruits that he's coming back..." and "...he wants to meet with the new AD..."
No one, not the (OB) mods or anyone else has a good answer to this question.

What happens if we get blown out by Baylor, okie state style?

Mack could've lit a fire under his team, used all of the good will he's built and gone out in style, win or lose but if his team gets blown off the field next Saturday, all those words about the players and focus and all of that good will goes right down the tubes. Would there by any good will left to even give him a lift out of town?

If this happens and THEN he resigns, how does that make him and his legacy look?

Hook'em!

First of all, this is the kind of question I always tell my wife, "don't worry about something that hasn't happened yet." Things have a way of working themselves out.

Second, in your last post (a few days ago) on this subject, you referred to "Mack supporters" as Mack "sniffers." This kind of direct attack on supporters of the coach and the program is the reason I left OB and came over here a few months ago.

There is NO reason why we can't discuss the program, from the AD down to the staff and the fanbase, in an analytical manner without name-calling.

Hornrush

You're a good poster. This isn't Orangebloods. Argue your point without the rancor, whether it be towards the coaches or fans.

Thanks.

 

[GetHooked]

wow. did i just read that?

I think you did. Remember, some of us spent years on OB arguing with echeese.

Some of us are on Shaggy and some of us cut our teeth on the old Austin 360 board.

Bad habits - and Lord knows I have more than a few - are hard to break.

 

[Bandit]

Why is it that when you despise the job Mack has done for the last several years means you hate Mack the person? Well it doesn't. I'm not a mouthy Mack hater. I'm am vociferous in my disdain and disgust for where this football program finds itself. Stop dropping chaff for Mack. He gets $5+ million a year to put on his big boy pants.

 

[Brink.]

(Should Mack actually step down) From everything I've read, it seems the main reason for waiting is to attempt to line as much up as possible so that the transition time is as minimal as possible - regardless of what is actually said. I'm not sure that Mack announcing or not not announcing retirement before the Baylor game has any net benefit on the result of the game itself, but would absolutely have an impact on the discussion surrounding the game, the questions the players would have to answer and the media / hype around the game. IF he is retiring, and he thought there was a benefit (in their play) to letting the players know officially, the time do it would be in the locker room before the game or in private to the team in the days leading up to the game.

BTW, I don't think one has to be a "Mack supporter" to have an alternate viewpoint to you. You may not have intended it, but this exemplifies what I absolutely find the most irritating aspect of this constant bickering amongst the fan base - the need to label someone a pumper / hater / Mack lover-supporter / Bellmont shill. It's just a difference of perspective and opinion. The vitriol spilled by both sides is tiresome and unnecessary, and while UTfish shouldn't have jumped down that path, the title of the OP has a combative feel. Words have meaning folks, and intention is not easily read in black font on a computer. It would be nice if we could avoid the rancor that currently exists on OBs and engage in intelligent, calm discussion, even if it means we all don't agree.

 

[Marian Hinton]

I (and probably most people) don't hate Mack, I just love UT more!!!

The sad thing is there are people who DO hate Mack and are spewing nonsense based only on that hatred. People on other boards saying the entire staff "hates Mack" is ludicrous, saying he's being selfish is dumb as well. he has stayed too long but it's not out of spite and greed. He truly wanted to get Texas back to the top.

 

[hornrush]

First of all, this is the kind of question I always tell my wife, "don't worry about something that hasn't happened yet." Things have a way of working themselves out.Second, in your last post (a few days ago) on this subject, you referred to "Mack supporters" as Mack "sniffers." This kind of direct attack on supporters of the coach and the program is the reason I left OB and came over here a few months ago.

There is NO reason why we can't discuss the program, from the AD down to the staff and the fanbase, in an analytical manner without name-calling.

Hornrush

You're a good poster. This isn't Orangebloods. Argue your point without the rancor, whether it be towards the coaches or fans.

Thanks.

Let's be accurate. I said that they are sometimes called "Mack sniffers." I didn't say by me or by whom and I used quotes, quoting someone else. I then used the term in a later sentence that even the "sniffers", again in quotes, quoting the term from another post or thread. That's how and why quotes are used in sentence structure and I used it in that fashion on purpose.

If you're going to call me out or try to lecture me about "attacking" someone, at least get your facts straight.

Hook'em!

 

[PutYourHornsUp]

Even if Mack gets blown out his legacy will be fine in the long-term. He will go away out of the spotlight and then a few years down the road everyone will be like, "He was a good guy and great for the University!" All the perception will come around to being overall positive once everyone's emotions stabilize. It's just the passion and expectations that have led to massive amount of frustration with the fans base, but it's not true forgetfulness of what he has done here since 1998.

 

[beevomav]

I don't mind answering that question, hornrush. It hasn't happened yet. Obviously you and some of the other mouthy Mack haters hope that does happen so you can fell justified in writing that crap. If it does indeed happen, then go ahead and have your say. I'm sure Patterson will need your help in making a decision about Mack Brown's future.

I could not agree with you more. With all the changes here at Horn Sports, I hope the new people in charge allow differences of opinions?

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I could not agree with you more. With all the changes here at Horn Sports, I hope the new people in charge allow differences of opinions?

All opinions are appreciated..