2021 Recruiting Board/Thread

[Eastexhorn]

Texas has had bad luck recruiting OL over the last 7 or so years.

Hudson Sheppard and others.IMO thats why they need more numbers to take up for attrition injuries etc.

Its Tom iob on the line and if he does not beat OU in next two years he will be gone IMO.

What makes QBS and RBS better than they realy are?

 

[Drb522]

I think you're living in a white palace here. You act like a 3-deep without drop off grows on trees. 

Bama has two more OL than we do. I have no idea how many of those are walk-ons that they just list on their roster.

When you have the lack of quality and depth we've had for the past 10 years, if you don't cross train you need your head examined.

Cross training OL is pretty much what got Hand is reputation. He did it at Auburn and saved a season.

Quote me where I said anything about a 3 deep at Texas.  I said a complete 2nd unit.

yes, you should cross train for effectiveness and emergency, but you recruit for depth.  Taking 3* kids every year and helping you have a hit rate of 100% just have depth is what Texas has been doing and so far they don’t have depth.  They’re still having to cross train out of necessity instead of luxury.  Hand is a good teacher of the craft, but evidently we’re getting worked over on the recruiting trail.  The Brockermeyer kids weren’t supposed to go anywhere else, but TE as’ lack of being able to recruit those kinds are still showing up.  Those boys were silver platter Legacy recruits, just lie to the dad about the lesser talent.  You’ve got to land the one.  Sometimes the other brother pans out like D’onta foreman.  Do you think Saban told him the truth about what he saw in the one?  Hell naw, he offered both and said they both were worthy.  
 

but I’m living in a palace?  That’s funny.  Meanwhile Stanford, Bama and others are taking the best linemen in Texas annually.  Asking for 10 guys that can play isn’t a stretch if you land the best in your back yard.

 

[Drb522]

JP was never going to see the field at Texas. He was turribal.

Aucoin was a TE and not a real good one at that.

They weren't going anywhere at Texas. Thats why they left.

That’s 2 that Texas settled for while Better/others left the state.

 

[Baron]

Strong’s classes looked good on paper but often shitty on the field. Many of them never even saw the field for Texas.

But the recruiting gurus liked the classes. I ain't a genius so I rely on them for that info. ?

 

[TexCoyote]

One thing I have wonder about is Texas offers ALOT less scholarship than the other schools. Herman has said he wants a Texas scholarship to mean something. This is great, but I’m not for sure about this idea until you get your program built back to where you are a playoff contender. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but alot of schools like Bama, Clemson, Ohio St (that’s where we’re trying to get) and also teams like Georgia, LSU, and several more are offering significantly more kids than we are. I get some of these aren’t commitable but sometimes I think when we don’t get a guy we had been on and it makes us late on some of the other kids. With coaches coming in from various programs, I would be picking their brain on what their previous school did. I’d be offering damn close to what Bama, Clemson and Ohio St are doing. 

Herman has finished what? 3,3, and 8 recruiting so I’m not going to lose alot of sleep over this but it’s just something I’ve noticed. 

 

[Drb522]

One thing I have wonder about is Texas offers ALOT less scholarship than the other schools. Herman has said he wants a Texas scholarship to mean something. This is great, but I’m not for sure about this idea until you get your program built back to where you are a playoff contender. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but alot of schools like Bama, Clemson, Ohio St (that’s where we’re trying to get) and also teams like Georgia, LSU, and several more are offering significantly more kids than we are. I get some of these aren’t commitable but sometimes I think when we don’t get a guy we had been on and it makes us late on some of the other kids. With coaches coming in from various programs, I would be picking their brain on what their previous school did. I’d be offering damn close to what Bama, Clemson and Ohio St are doing. 

Herman has finished what? 3,3, and 8 recruiting so I’m not going to lose alot of sleep over this but it’s just something I’ve noticed. 

Only a select few get offered to lose 5 games a year on average.  Boy that’ll draw them in.  

 

[Eastexhorn]

Just one old mans thoughts on numbers. Tom offers more than plenty at some positions WR and DB etc. Just short numbers at OL. Just check out offer board toform your own opion.

 

[texbound]

That's a very good question. Offer Ezra now.

Something else I was thinking about is the recruiting services, like 247, have Ezra ranked higher than J. Brock, but the Longhorns offered Myslinski (sp) at C before him.  Is it possible their own evaluations rank him higher on their list than Ezra?  Maybe they see something in Myslinski they didn't see in Ezra.  Just a thought.

 

[NWAHorn]

The brothers going to Bama this week reminds me of a quote I got from a former player for a story I am writing for this week. The player was offered by two colleges. His brother and several HS teammates were at one of the schools, but that program was not at the level as the other program that offered. He chose the other school instead of going where his brother an HS teammates were. He said the reason was the coach sold him on going to a school where you would play for championships rather than to a school where you hoped to reach that level. That is the difference in Bama and Texas. Bama plays for a wins championships. Texas struggles to beat Kansas. In order for Texas to move the needle from pretty good to elite, it's going to take players who are willing to put in work even they don't know they have in them. I'm not sure these boys have that in them and maybe that is a big reason they are headed to Bama. There, they can blend in and not be asked to do anything above and beyond, whereas at Texas, there would be a considerable more amount of work. I'm not the biggest Tom Herman fan and if I'm 100 percent honest, I'm not convinced he can take Texas to an elite level. He's a smart dude, sure, but he does a lot of stupid. childish crap that shows a total lack of maturity as well. If the 2020 season is played, IMO this is the make or break season of his Texas career. I don't think he gets it done. Prove me wrong. 

 

[hornsups]

The brothers going to Bama this week reminds me of a quote I got from a former player for a story I am writing for this week. The player was offered by two colleges. His brother and several HS teammates were at one of the schools, but that program was not at the level as the other program that offered. He chose the other school instead of going where his brother an HS teammates were. He said the reason was the coach sold him on going to a school where you would play for championships rather than to a school where you hoped to reach that level. That is the difference in Bama and Texas. Bama plays for a wins championships. Texas struggles to beat Kansas. In order for Texas to move the needle from pretty good to elite, it's going to take players who are willing to put in work even they don't know they have in them. I'm not sure these boys have that in them and maybe that is a big reason they are headed to Bama. There, they can blend in and not be asked to do anything above and beyond, whereas at Texas, there would be a considerable more amount of work. I'm not the biggest Tom Herman fan and if I'm 100 percent honest, I'm not convinced he can take Texas to an elite level. He's a smart dude, sure, but he does a lot of stupid. childish crap that shows a total lack of maturity as well. If the 2020 season is played, IMO this is the make or break season of his Texas career. I don't think he gets it done. Prove me wrong. 

Yes the only way we can start recruiting the state the way Texas should is to win consistently again. If Texas is winning 10 games yearly and in playoff talk regularly, then we will be able to pull in a lot more of the top in state players regularly. I think Herman may be able to do it. If not, I think he’s did a good job recruiting to solid players. So the next guy would have players at least. And CDC will make sure the next hire is a home run hire. Though I’ve already decided for me.. if Herman is out, Joe Brady is the guy. Imagine what he would with the skill players from this state. 

 

[Eastexhorn]

If Texas has five ships left what positions would fill? Food for thought.

 

[texbound]

If Texas has five ships left what positions would fill? Food for thought.

That's a tough question.  With only 5 I would say 2 OL, 1 DE, 1 RB (only if its Wheaton or LJ) and 1 WR.  I gotta think they have at least 7 to 10 remaining.  Not sure where they would get them from though.

 

[Baron]

If Texas has five ships left what positions would fill? Food for thought.

1 RB, 2 OL, 1 TE,  1 DB

 

[Eastexhorn]

To answer my own question, after checking the roster by position.

I would take one DB saftey type and four OL

RB might be needed if Brown cannot play. Would open own space. Rest of positions look ok with one owercrowded. Attrition fill the space that left.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

To answer my own question, after checking the roster by position.

I would take one DB saftey type and four OL

RB might be needed if Brown cannot play. Would open own space. Rest of positions look ok with one owercrowded. Attrition fill the space that left.

I was in your neighborhood yesterday. Went fishing over at a friend's lake near Naples.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

The brothers going to Bama this week reminds me of a quote I got from a former player for a story I am writing for this week. The player was offered by two colleges. His brother and several HS teammates were at one of the schools, but that program was not at the level as the other program that offered. He chose the other school instead of going where his brother an HS teammates were. He said the reason was the coach sold him on going to a school where you would play for championships rather than to a school where you hoped to reach that level. That is the difference in Bama and Texas. Bama plays for a wins championships. Texas struggles to beat Kansas. In order for Texas to move the needle from pretty good to elite, it's going to take players who are willing to put in work even they don't know they have in them. I'm not sure these boys have that in them and maybe that is a big reason they are headed to Bama. There, they can blend in and not be asked to do anything above and beyond, whereas at Texas, there would be a considerable more amount of work. I'm not the biggest Tom Herman fan and if I'm 100 percent honest, I'm not convinced he can take Texas to an elite level. He's a smart dude, sure, but he does a lot of stupid. childish crap that shows a total lack of maturity as well. If the 2020 season is played, IMO this is the make or break season of his Texas career. I don't think he gets it done. Prove me wrong. 

IMO, CTH's biggest issue is that he is able to coach to a level where he beats the Georgias of the world, but seemingly loses the edge when going up against teams he should beat by 40 points. We end up losing a game or two that we have no business losing.

Its hard to fly with the eagles when you keep having such luck with the buzzards.

 

[texbound]

There is one other thing that kind of has me baffled regarding Ezra. If he is a top rated C in this class, why haven't the likes of TT, Baylor, TCU, ATM, and other schools offered him?  The top schools that have offered are Mizzou, Virginia, Arizona State and Boise State.  All good schools, but not head turners in the football recruiting world. There has to be something there.  Anyone have any ideas on this?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Quote me where I said anything about a 3 deep at Texas.  I said a complete 2nd unit.

yes, you should cross train for effectiveness and emergency, but you recruit for depth.  Taking 3* kids every year and helping you have a hit rate of 100% just have depth is what Texas has been doing and so far they don’t have depth.  They’re still having to cross train out of necessity instead of luxury.  Hand is a good teacher of the craft, but evidently we’re getting worked over on the recruiting trail.  The Brockermeyer kids weren’t supposed to go anywhere else, but TE as’ lack of being able to recruit those kinds are still showing up.  Those boys were silver platter Legacy recruits, just lie to the dad about the lesser talent.  You’ve got to land the one.  Sometimes the other brother pans out like D’onta foreman.  Do you think Saban told him the truth about what he saw in the one?  Hell naw, he offered both and said they both were worthy.  
 

but I’m living in a palace?  That’s funny.  Meanwhile Stanford, Bama and others are taking the best linemen in Texas annually.  Asking for 10 guys that can play isn’t a stretch if you land the best in your back yard.

Having a three-deep was the topic of conversation. Pardon my mistake.

You recruit some 3 stars because the ratings services aren't as accurate with their evals as some like to think they are. Take one look at all the 3 stars who made it to the NFL. Well, according to Rivals and others, they shouldn't have.

But you're saying we just recruit a bunch of three stars and that's simply not factual.

Junior Agilou was a 4 star

Rhaffit Ghirmai was a 4-star

Issaiah Hookfin was a 4-star

Tyler Johnson was a 4-star

Jake Majors was a 4-star

Reese Moore was a 4-star

Denzel Okafor was a 4-star

Logan Parr was a 4-star

Thats EIGHT 4-star OL. Thats the same number of 4-stars OL Bama has on its roster right now. Bama also has a 3-star OL.

Yeah, a palace. Your own palace isn't as bad as you're apparently thinking.

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Team/Texas-Longhorns-Football-43/Roster/

https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Team/Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Football-164/Roster/

The Brocks weren't supposed to go anywhere else? Tell that to Casey Thompson's daddy.

 

[Eastexhorn]

I was in your neighborhood yesterday. Went fishing over at a friend's lake near Naples.

Any luck?

 

[Eastexhorn]

Cade and Foster along with Oyetade are left as uncommited Then out of state looks to be a hard pushand try to flip Byrd or some one else.

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