2019 Recruiting Board/Thread

[Daniel Seahorn]

Everyone I've heard or read will not put a 100% on this even after the F aggy tweet.

Because in recruiting nothing is a given. Especially with how this recruitment in particular  has played out. 

 

[NWAHorn]

Don't tell me what I have a clue about. Walmart was one of my primary customers for years. When I first started to go there, the best hotel was the Hilton Garden Inn and if it was sold out you were stuck at the Best Western or worse. Now they have an Embassy Suites and Aloft, but still no major Marriott/Westin/Hilton. I've been there probably 50 times over the last 15 years. It nice country, good fishing, good place to raise a family. But this is for an 18-22 year old kid. Different decisioning goes into that my friend. And if I were an 18 year old kid NWA does not in any way shape or form compare to ATX. And just to reiterate, I HATE when people say shit like "you have no clue" when the person making that statement clearly HAS NO CLUE about the original person. As fishing is one of my top priorities, I'd personally take NWA over ATX today. But when I was 18, no way in hell would I turn down Texas. Then there is this little thing of one program that actually has a pulse and the other that is one of the worst P5 schools around. Why would any kid go there just to go 4-7 and miss their bowl game. Makes no sense. 

Ever been to Fayetteville on Dickson? Ever been to Eureka? Why was Baker Mayfield here partying and not in his hometown in ATX when he was arrested? You're old, dude, like me. You do NOT know what the vibe is here for college kids. Fayetteville is one of the best college towns in the country. Come visit sometime when school is going on and count the Texas license plates. I lived in ATX and Texas in my younger years and I moved here 20 years ago, where my kids have been raised and are very connected to the live music/party scene. I imagine you got off the plane at XNA, went to a hotel in Bentonville or Rogers and never made it down to Fayetteville. BTW, we now have a Hilton, a Hampton and 21c. And one other thing ... I might have just the slightest little more knowledge about what recruits are looking for than the average person. I don't just know "a guy" I know "the guy" when it comes to recruiting. 

 

[PTA]

and here I thought NWA stood for National Wrestling Alliance.

 

[83Dee]

and here I thought NWA stood for National Wrestling Alliance.

And p.m.doesn't just stand for “post meridiem.”   Think about it folks.  

 

[UTfish]

Good informative read. Why is this not a surprise?

Over the last eight years, Alabama is the only perennial national title contender to land in the top 20 of offers, sitting 18th with an average of 220 per year. Saban’s offer strategy has evolved over the years, as the Crimson Tide have gone from extending 203 offers in 2015 to 287 this year. Saban has company. The SEC leads all conferences in offers per cycle (229 per year per team), significantly outpacing the conference whose teams average the fewest offers, the Big 12 (158). In fact, of the bottom eight Power 5 schools in offers, five are from the Big 12: Texas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, TCU and Baylor.


Recruiting’s Biggest Bait-and-Switch: The Uncommittable Scholarship Offer




https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/02/05/uncommittable-offers-recruiting-national-signing-day

So much for the "Your word is your bond" ideology that we older guys were taught.  Sad. Can't blame the kids, the lack of commitment goes both ways. 

This has really gotten out of control, but who will stop it? The NCAA?           I don't think so. 

Thanks,  PD.

 

[83Dee]

So much for the "Your word is your bond" ideology that we older guys were taught.  Sad. Can't blame the kids, the lack of commitment goes both ways. 

This has really gotten out of control, but who will stop it? The NCAA?           I don't think so. 

Thanks,  PD.

It seems to me that an “uncommitable offer” is an “oxymoron”.   If I were a recruit I would treat it as a “nonoffer” until I received a “commitable offer.”   

All the discussion about “is this a commitable offer” gives me “tired head.”  

 

[83Dee]

This has really gotten out of control, but who will stop it? The NCAA?           I don't think so. 

Thanks,  PD.

The NCAA is about as toothless as a newborn baby.  Joel Klatt (credible source) openly states that cheating is rampant in the SEC and to a lesser degree in the ACC.   They have no interest in even attempting to seriously police their own rules.  

Its like they regret what they did to SMU and TCU (the living death penalty) and decided to never act authoritatively again.  

 

[primal defense]

College Football Recruiting Rankings 2019: Projecting Top Classes and Programs




3. Texas 

Tom Herman and his assistant coaches put together the best recruiting class outside of the SEC, and like Georgia, the Longhorns won't be too busy Wednesday. 

The biggest bit of news regarding the Longhorns and recruiting came out last week, as athlete Bru McCoy opted to leave USC and join the Longhorns following turnover on the USC staff. 

Orlin Wagner/Associated Press


In McCoy and Jordan Whittington, the Longhorns have the two best athletes in the class of 2019 in their possession. 

While McCoy and Whittington are the only five-star players in Texas' recruiting class, it bolstered its roster by adding 14 four-star prospects. 









In total, Texas pulled in five players from the 247Sports top 100, with wide receiver Jake Smith, offensive tackle Tyler Johnson and linebacker De'Gabriel Floyd joining the two athletes in that category. 

Earning the third-ranked recruiting class is yet another boost for Herman and Co., who enter the 2019 season with high expectations after beating Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2819556-college-football-recruiting-rankings-2019-projecting-top-classes-and-programs

 

[PleaseDeleteUser]

Ever been to Fayetteville on Dickson? Ever been to Eureka? Why was Baker Mayfield here partying and not in his hometown in ATX when he was arrested? You're old, dude, like me. You do NOT know what the vibe is here for college kids. Fayetteville is one of the best college towns in the country. Come visit sometime when school is going on and count the Texas license plates. I lived in ATX and Texas in my younger years and I moved here 20 years ago, where my kids have been raised and are very connected to the live music/party scene. I imagine you got off the plane at XNA, went to a hotel in Bentonville or Rogers and never made it down to Fayetteville. BTW, we now have a Hilton, a Hampton and 21c. And one other thing ... I might have just the slightest little more knowledge about what recruits are looking for than the average person. I don't just know "a guy" I know "the guy" when it comes to recruiting. 

I will give you the old piece. I drove all the way up there in 82 to see Texas get pounded the week after we beat OU 34-14 and were ranked #1. We left in the 3rd quarter. Stadium back then was like a HS stadium and I was literally scared the old stands would collapse and I'd die along with the team. Maybe my dislike is lack of a real hotel. I should have gotten funding for a Marriott or Hilton 15 years ago and I'd be rich. I'm not saying on a public forum how much fun or lack thereof to work with that big corporation there. 

Wish you the best. I think my point was it's not just the atmosphere where you live. It's what team are you playing on? Arky is just pitiful. Arky will never win a conference championship. Never. Who wants to play for a losing team unless you have options or unless you think they will turn it around. I just don't see them ever competing in the SEC. They wouldn't compete in the B12. Just not enough recruiting base. When they left the SWC they left behind their Texas base. 

 

[RickyFlair]

The NCAA is about as toothless as a newborn baby.  Joel Klatt (credible source) openly states that cheating is rampant in the SEC and to a lesser degree in the ACC.   They have no interest in even attempting to seriously police their own rules.  

Its like they regret what they did to SMU and TCU (the living death penalty) and decided to never act authoritatively again.  

I believe the NCAA knows how corrupt college sports have become and fear opening Pandora’s box would cause  irreparable damage.

It’s gotten to the point where some schools are daring them to do something about it.

I would bet there are very few programs without a couple of skeletons in the closet. 

 

[drgilbert]

 

[primal defense]

Texas, Texas A&M back among elite recruiters, especially in Lone Star State




http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/texas-texas-am-college-football-elite-recruit-texas-national-signing-day/jqt3edwpja461bry0x1vqu8fh

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Now we can officially close shop on the 2019 class. See everyone in the 2020 thread. 

 

[WPS]

I will give you the old piece. I drove all the way up there in 82 to see Texas get pounded the week after we beat OU 34-14 and were ranked #1. We left in the 3rd quarter. Stadium back then was like a HS stadium and I was literally scared the old stands would collapse and I'd die along with the team. Maybe my dislike is lack of a real hotel. I should have gotten funding for a Marriott or Hilton 15 years ago and I'd be rich. I'm not saying on a public forum how much fun or lack thereof to work with that big corporation there. 

Wish you the best. I think my point was it's not just the atmosphere where you live. It's what team are you playing on? Arky is just pitiful. Arky will never win a conference championship. Never. Who wants to play for a losing team unless you have options or unless you think they will turn it around. I just don't see them ever competing in the SEC. They wouldn't compete in the B12. Just not enough recruiting base. When they left the SWC they left behind their Texas base. 

The most frustrating thing for Arkansas being in the SEC is you can have a top 20-25 recruiting class and that's still only 5th or 6th in your own division, while it would be 3rd-4th in the Big 12 most years.

Gotta love the SEC money and it's great to be in the conference for baseball and non-revenue sports but there are fans who wish the Hogs would move to a different conference for football sometimes. Arkansas has won the West 3 times and had success under Petrino but even in his 11-2 year they finished 3rd in the division.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

The most frustrating thing for Arkansas being in the SEC is you can have a top 20-25 recruiting class and that's still only 5th or 6th in your own division, while it would be 3rd-4th in the Big 12 most years.

Gotta love the SEC money and it's great to be in the conference for baseball and non-revenue sports but there are fans who wish the Hogs would move to a different conference for football sometimes. Arkansas has won the West 3 times and had success under Petrino but even in his 11-2 year they finished 3rd in the division.

Arky was better at hoops, too, while members of the SWC.

I guess you can attribute that to Nolan Richardson's coaching prowess, but I believe they'd be better off in the Big 12 with a TX recruiting pipeline. Just my opinion.

 

[605Longhorn]

Arky was better at hoops, too, while members of the SWC.

I guess you can attribute that to Nolan Richardson's coaching prowess, but I believe they'd be better off in the Big 12 with a TX recruiting pipeline. Just my opinion.

Just a Reminder, aggie sucked in both the BIG 12 and the sec.  The only time they we OK was when they left the BIG 12, the first year not that bad.  Now they are just middle of the pack.

 

[drgilbert]

 

[DBut82]

Anyone getting the feeling that Orlando may leave?  I didn't see Herman's press conference but posters on TFB seem to think it's a possibility considering Naivar's "promotion" to co-defensive coordinator along with some comments Herman made during his press conference...thoughts?

 

[drgilbert]