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2017 Dylan Moses Decommits from LSU

Mike Roach

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Moses of University Laboratory School in Baton Rouge has been a phenom since LSU offered him in 8th grade. He's been committed to the Tigers since 9th grade and plays running back and linebacker. He is among the top 5 players in the nation by most services.

Moses said he wanted to take visits and didn't feel right about it if he was committed. The smart money is still on LSU, but Alabama and Texas have an opening here. Moses has been to Austin a couple of times and has an incredible fondness for Charlie Strong. Texas will no doubt get an official and though the chances are low they will need to swing for the fences. This is potentially a huge coup for Texas if something were to happen.

 
Dylan Moses' decommitment from LSU should spark debate about early offers: James Smith

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University High's Dylan Moses hasn't started his junior season, yet he has been tabbed the LeBron James of football, compared to NFL players and been on the cover of national magazines. Monday, he added another label -- decommitment.

Moses announced via Twitter on Monday afternoon that he "decided to decommit from LSU." That announcement took me by surprise, as it did many others. Moses posted a thoughtful message in which he said, "This is a once in a lifetime deal and I wanna live this process up to the fullest."

While I am understand a kid wanting to take his time during the process to ensure he makes the best decision for his future, the "I wanna live this process up to the fullest" statement has me perplexed.

Moses has visited more college campuses than leading experts on climate change -- and has done so with the full support of LSU's coaching staff. It is not uncommon for a prospect to be committed to a program and visit other schools. What is unique about Moses' recruitment, however, is how often he has visited some of LSU's biggest rivals on the recruiting trail such as Alabama, Florida State and Texas among others.

Furthermore, Moses had been an active recruiter for LSU over the past two years and became the face of its 2017 recruiting class. So the question is: Why now? Why take a step back form his verbal commitment in early August? That is a question only Moses and his family can answer.

I have always had difficulty deeming a recruit as a solid commitment when he still takes numerous visits to other programs. But Moses, a lifelong Tigers fan, was as solid as solid could be for LSU.

With all of that said, the process as a whole might be the real culprit. When a program can offer a 13-year-old impressionable kid, pushes for an early commitment and uses him as a recruiting tool, it is difficult to blame the recruit. Then again, how can one blame LSU? It has a child prodigy that is enrolled in a high school on campus; plus, rival programs were ready to move on Moses.

Schools evaluate at a feverish pace in an attempt to get a leg up on their competition. But at what cost?

When is it too early to offer an athlete? Eighth grade, like Moses? Seventh? What's to stop schools from offering a fifth-grader? When does it begin to get ridiculous?

Many fans continue to clamber for early signing periods, which in theory could protect schools from late decommitments, although that would not have applied here because Moses has yet to start his junior year. I have never been a proponent of such a thing. I believe in giving kids all the time they need to make such a big decision. I am also a firm believer that once a kid commits, his word should carry weight. Otherwise, the verbal agreement between two parties is as solid as water.

No, Moses is not to blame for backing out at this stage. Neither is LSU. The entire process, however, is the biggest culprit.

http://www.nola.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2015/08/dylan_moses_decommitment_from.html

 
I still think he signs with LSU but until he signs Charlie needs to recruit Dylan Moses . Last year at this time according to aggies and national experts Texas was dead.Texas couldn`t recruit against sec and Strong can only recruit 2 & 3 star players. 9 dismissed players and paul finebaum and others said Charlie had lost the team.fast foward to 2015 hopefully Texas fans realize his rebuilding is not over but surely fans see  Charlie Strong has vision and plan for rebuilding plus the eye for talent and patience to develop that talent.to me I think the 2014 and 2015 recruiting classes have some serious potential with multiple players starting for multiple seasons but the 2016 and 2017 classes could be better if the 2015 Texas Football team will play with some pride and passion.

 
24-7 had some quotes that were positive:

“I like Texas,†Moses said. “Every time I go out to Texas, they always roll out the red carpet. They show me a lot of love, so Texas is still showing interest in me. I plan to make a visit out there later this summer. I just don’t know when.

“I really like Coach Strong. I haven’t been there in a year, but I really like the coaching staff and they have a good program. I like what Coach Strong is doing up there, and I like what they’re about.







 
Hahaha

I literally looked him up last night. I wish I could take a picture of my history on my phone. Anyways, I was thinking "who was that kid who liked Texas but committed to LSU in 8th grade?"

So I did a search and found Dylan Moses. Found out he was in the next class (2017) and said "well I doubt he stays committed". Sure enough, this happens. Hilarious.

 
I wish that they would change the rule that a school can't offer till the day after signing day of the previous class. Everybody is trying to top each other to prove how much they love that recruit.

High school football should only be about high school football until the end of your junior year. They don't need the star attention until then.

Gee I hope I don't sound like this guy!

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I wish that they would change the rule that a school can't offer till the day after signing day of the previous class. Everybody is trying to top each other to prove how much they love that recruit.

High school football should only be about high school football until the end of your junior year. They don't need the star attention until then.

Gee I hope I don't sound like this guy!

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Here's the biggest problem with not being to offer till the day after signing day of the previous class.

It is way too logical and makes way too much sense, which means it's way over the head of the idiots who run the NCAA. 

 
I wish that they would change the rule that a school can't offer till the day after signing day of the previous class. Everybody is trying to top each other to prove how much they love that recruit.

High school football should only be about high school football until the end of your junior year. They don't need the star attention until then.

Gee I hope I don't sound like this guy!

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I actually think it's important to be able to offer in classes beyond the next class. That's how you appropriately build your team over a four year span. If you have a Quarterback on the Roster that can carry you through 2018 and you can grab the #1 Quarterback in the Nation in 2017, you probably don't want to waste a scholarship on a Quarterback in 2016. 

Also, it presents you the opportunity to build a real relationship with players. I honestly don't think Kris would have committed to a school if DeMarco wouldn't have received an offer from the same school. Those brothers are really close. We may not have Kris if not for DeMarco. I think limiting offers to High School kids is a good idea. No offering kids in Middle School or Junior High School. You could even extend that to only offering kids who have made their Varsity Team. But I think you have to be able to offer beyond your current year for depth sake.

 
I actually think it's important to be able to offer in classes beyond the next class. That's how you appropriately build your team over a four year span. If you have a Quarterback on the Roster that can carry you through 2018 and you can grab the #1 Quarterback in the Nation in 2017, you probably don't want to waste a scholarship on a Quarterback in 2016. 

Also, it presents you the opportunity to build a real relationship with players. I honestly don't think Kris would have committed to a school if DeMarco wouldn't have received an offer from the same school. Those brothers are really close. We may not have Kris if not for DeMarco. I think limiting offers to High School kids is a good idea. No offering kids in Middle School or Junior High School. You could even extend that to only offering kids who have made their Varsity Team. But I think you have to be able to offer beyond your current year for depth sake.
But there is simply no guarantee that you are "building your team" over a four year span. 

Under your above QB scenario, what happens if you pass on the 2016 QB and the 2017 QB changes his mind and goes somewhere else? And then, just to make it a really worst case scenario, your QB that can carry you through 2018 craps the bed or gets hurt. 

 
I don't think it matters if you limit when you can offer a kid. A coach can always tell the kid an offer is his once the deadline hits.

I like it the way it is. There is no guarantee the kid will stick. There is no guarantee the coach will stick. It's all a crapshoot.

 
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