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[Sirhornsalot]

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[Sirhornsalot]

I think Trump won this debate.  He kept his cool and needed to be reeled in a little at times.  He did make some dumb statements but overall he won.  It appeared Bidens speed pill started to wear off about halfway through it.  He started stuttering and I swear at one point I thought he was going to pass out.  Not a good look for him.  I did think this moderator put Wallace to shame.

Biden hurt his numbers in PA or OH with the phase out fracking.

Biden also hurt when he said he would shut down the economy.  Polls favor reopening.

If Trump wins PA he wins more than likely.  I think Trump wins AZ, FL, OH, MI.

Good post. Agree with all points.

Biden was clearly angered at several points in the debate. Trump kept his cool, but kept the heat on. Putting Joe on the defensive was the best thing he did all night (aside from pointing out his achievements). Biden clearly doesn't do well in defense.

I cannot wait to hear the count of lies Biden said tonight.

I heard that the moderator interrupted or cut off Trump 25 times. She did it to Biden twice. Still, she wasn't that bad in comparison to Chris Wallace. The crazy thing is, Wallace still thinks he did a good job. smh

I will be glad when we don't have to have a liberal hack moderate a debate. This seems like its become a requirement now. We really don't need a debate commission. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Does he know that all of the plexiglass he wants to be in restaurants requires oil? The wind turbines requires oil lubricants. It takes diesel for the big trucks and cranes to move them into place. Trains use diesel to transport wind turbines across the country. There are a lot of related industries that require oil that i am not going to waste my time mentioning. ??

No, he doesn't.

The dirty secret on wind turbines is that they are made of steel. Most steel in the world is made in basic oxygen furnaces, & most of those furnaces use coal as their heat source. Most wind turbines are made in Germany & China. - @familyman20181

 

[UTfish]

Does he know that all of the plexiglass he wants to be in restaurants requires oil? The wind turbines requires oil lubricants. It takes diesel for the big trucks and cranes to move them into place. Trains use diesel to transport wind turbines across the country. There are a lot of related industries that require oil that i am not going to waste my time mentioning. ??

I'm still waiting for the solar powered airplane they will use to fly all over the country politicing.

 

[DMAC]

Biden used the term "predators".  Clinton said "super predators".   So they are claiming Trump was false.  I guess technically they are correct but the he still said predators and they never address that.  The leftist protection cog at work this morning.  If you go to Google and search for you it can see.  If Trump wins I would repeal section 230 as my first priority

There is no record of Joe Biden using the term 'super predator ...



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Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has never publicly used the term "super predator," according to FactCheck.org and NBC News. The term, which ...

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[DMAC]

This is USA today.  No I do not care whether they are an affiliate of Hornsports.


 

Claim: 1994 crime bill, strongly promoted by then-Sen. Joe Biden, brought 'mass incarceration to Black Americans.'



Our ruling: False


Our research finds that while the crime bill did increase the prison population in states, it did not bring about a mass incarceration relative to earlier years.

The above is why Fact Checks are absolute garbage.  They are pure opinion not facts.

The Crime Bill Biden pushed has harmed the black community for 20 years

The legacy of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 continues to harm communities of color. It is past time for lawmakers to dismantle these harmful policies and enact comprehensive public safety solutions that reduce reliance on incarceration, prevent unnecessary criminalization, and eliminate the draconian laws keeping millions of Americans in prison.

Ranya Shannon is an intern for Race and Ethnicity Policy at the Center for American Progress.

 

[TexCoyote]

I think Trump won this debate.  He kept his cool and needed to be reeled in a little at times.  He did make some dumb statements but overall he won.  It appeared Bidens speed pill started to wear off about halfway through it.  He started stuttering and I swear at one point I thought he was going to pass out.  Not a good look for him.  I did think this moderator put Wallace to shame.

Biden hurt his numbers in PA or OH with the phase out fracking.

Biden also hurt when he said he would shut down the economy.  Polls favor reopening.

If Trump wins PA he wins more than likely.  I think Trump wins AZ, FL, OH, MI.

I can’t for the life of me see how anyone can look at Biden and think he is what we need running our country. People don’t realize how socialism works. We don’t need to be dependent on the government for every in our lives. Democrats know Biden wouldn’t make it a year in office. He’s a place holder for Kamala and the far left radicals 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

I can’t for the life of me see how anyone can look at Biden and think he is what we need running our country. People don’t realize how socialism works. We don’t need to be dependent on the government for every in our lives. Democrats know Biden wouldn’t make it a year in office. He’s a place holder for Kamala and the far left radicals 

...and she's an even worse candidate

 

[63_Texas_1]

1 hour ago, DMAC said:

Biden used the term "predators".  Clinton said "super predators".   So they are claiming Trump was false.  I guess technically they are correct but the he still said predators and they never address that.  The leftist protection cog at work this morning.  If you go to Google and search for you it can see.  If Trump wins I would repeal section 230 as my first priority

Parhetic!

FYI - My post on masks don't  prevent Covid-19 using CDC link was taken down within one day by FB. As I mentioned  before, I"m going to post same thing one week after tbe election and see whst happens.

 

[tejasrulz]

I can’t for the life of me see how anyone can look at Biden and think he is what we need running our country. People don’t realize how socialism works. We don’t need to be dependent on the government for every in our lives. Democrats know Biden wouldn’t make it a year in office. He’s a place holder for Kamala and the far left radicals 

Because they're blinded by their hate for Trump. Some younger people love the idea of "free stuff" because Biden will tax the rich. What they don't understand is the rich, who own the businesses, will just pass down the cost to the middle and lower class. In other words, they're clueless.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[DMAC]

CNN poll who won the debate:

Biden - 53%

Trump - 39%

Neither - 9%

Fox poll who won the debate:

Trump - 74%

Biden - 26%

Now considering the viewership of each channel.  If you split up the CNN "Neither" between each and average both the leftist CNN poll and the right conservative poll you get the following result:

Trump - 59%

Biden - 41%

I realize this is not scientific but its my own personal take.  I firmly believe Trump won this debate.  Judging by the medias response they seem desperate this morning to push Biden as well. 

 

[TexCoyote]

Because they're blinded by their hate for Trump. Some younger people love the idea of "free stuff" because Biden will tax the rich. What they don't understand is the rich, who own the businesses, will just pass down the cost to the middle and lower class. In other words, they're clueless.

Well said. I agree. The only thing I would say is the rich do need to pay taxes. Jeff Bezos the richest person on the planet pays 0 taxes. I even heard he got a 120 million dollars rebate so not only didn’t pay taxes, he got paid. NOTE: I get that he produces alot of jobs and money for millions of people, but there is no reason these people like him don’t pay anything. I’m sure there are millions of rich people like him that pay nothing.......I.e. Facebook, Twitter, Google, and thousands of other countries. Everyone should have to pay something. 

I have no expectations that this will ever change because the people that can change it are the ones that it would effect. I liked the flat taxes idea that Huckabee and others have come up with. Get rid of all loopholes and each person pays a percentage of their earnings. Again it won’t ever happen. Less than 50% of the American citizens actually even pay taxes. I’m not a CPA but you can’t have less than 50% paying in and a way higher percentage taking out. It just doesn’t balance. This is where kids thinks everything is free and we all know that NOTHING is free. Someone is paying. My dad used to say “there are no free lunches” 

sorry this is so long but this election has really got me spun up. Depending on which way this goes could GREATLY GREATLY change our way of life and our futures

 

[DMAC]

Well said. I agree. The only thing I would say is the rich do need to pay taxes. Jeff Bezos the richest person on the planet pays 0 taxes. I even heard he got a 120 million dollars rebate so not only didn’t pay taxes, he got paid. NOTE: I get that he produces alot of jobs and money for millions of people, but there is no reason these people like him don’t pay anything. I’m sure there are millions of rich people like him that pay nothing.......I.e. Facebook, Twitter, Google, and thousands of other countries. Everyone should have to pay something. 

I have no expectations that this will ever change because the people that can change it are the ones that it would effect. I liked the flat taxes idea that Huckabee and others have come up with. Get rid of all loopholes and each person pays a percentage of their earnings. Again it won’t ever happen. Less than 50% of the American citizens actually even pay taxes. I’m not a CPA but you can’t have less than 50% paying in and a way higher percentage taking out. It just doesn’t balance. This is where kids thinks everything is free and we all know that NOTHING is free. Someone is paying. My dad used to say “there are no free lunches” 

sorry this is so long but this election has really got me spun up. Depending on which way this goes could GREATLY GREATLY change our way of life and our futures

The only states that really matter are AZ, NV, FL, PA, MI, OH, WI.

After Bidens statements last night he could lose all of them easily.  Whoever wins PA more than likely wins this election and fracking statement probably hurt Biden last night.

 

[tejasrulz]

Well said. I agree. The only thing I would say is the rich do need to pay taxes. Jeff Bezos the richest person on the planet pays 0 taxes. I even heard he got a 120 million dollars rebate so not only didn’t pay taxes, he got paid. NOTE: I get that he produces alot of jobs and money for millions of people, but there is no reason these people like him don’t pay anything. I’m sure there are millions of rich people like him that pay nothing.......I.e. Facebook, Twitter, Google, and thousands of other countries. Everyone should have to pay something. 

I have no expectations that this will ever change because the people that can change it are the ones that it would effect. I liked the flat taxes idea that Huckabee and others have come up with. Get rid of all loopholes and each person pays a percentage of their earnings. Again it won’t ever happen. Less than 50% of the American citizens actually even pay taxes. I’m not a CPA but you can’t have less than 50% paying in and a way higher percentage taking out. It just doesn’t balance. This is where kids thinks everything is free and we all know that NOTHING is free. Someone is paying. My dad used to say “there are no free lunches” 

sorry this is so long but this election has really got me spun up. Depending on which way this goes could GREATLY GREATLY change our way of life and our futures

I agree that the rich need to pay taxes as we all should. I too liked the flat tax idea but as you said it wont pass because of the "Golden Rule" which is "He who has the gold, rules".

 

[TexCoyote]

The only states that really matter are AZ, NV, FL, PA, MI, OH, WI.

After Bidens statements last night he could lose all of them easily.  Whoever wins PA more than likely wins this election and fracking statement probably hurt Biden last night.

Yes that was a homerun moment for Trump. Did anyone think Biden may have had the questions before the debate. The moderator didn’t say no one has been given the questions in her opening like every other debate. It almost seems like he had rehearsed answers ready. Isn’t it crazy that American citizens can’t even get a fair debate anymore. Thanks Donna Brazile 

 

[DMAC]

Watching Biden use talking points like "climate change is an existential threat" reminds everyone he a pure politician just babbling about memos he memorized.

Trump was right to call him out on it

 

[DMAC]