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Herman moves Mehringer to the press box

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On the Big 12 coaches' call Monday, Texas coach Tom Herman said he decided after the Longhorns' game against Oklahoma to move receivers coach Drew Mehringer from the sideline to the press box with offensive coordinator Tim Beck.

"Having another set of eyes in the box who’s called plays - the feedback I was getting and Tim Beck was getting is good," Herman said. "And I think that’s something we can build on."

Texas' offense has struggled, averaging 22.8 points per game in Big 12 play, and after kicking a field goal to take a 10-7 lead on Oklahoma State Saturday with 10:42 in the third quarter finished the game with eight drives that netted 45 total yards, including five three-and-outs.

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-coach-Tom-Herman-likes-former-play-caller-Drew-M-109349110

 
On the Big 12 coaches' call Monday, Texas coach Tom Herman said he decided after the Longhorns' game against Oklahoma to move receivers coach Drew Mehringer from the sideline to the press box with offensive coordinator Tim Beck.

"Having another set of eyes in the box who’s called plays - the feedback I was getting and Tim Beck was getting is good," Herman said. "And I think that’s something we can build on."

Texas' offense has struggled, averaging 22.8 points per game in Big 12 play, and after kicking a field goal to take a 10-7 lead on Oklahoma State Saturday with 10:42 in the third quarter finished the game with eight drives that netted 45 total yards, including five three-and-outs.

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-coach-Tom-Herman-likes-former-play-caller-Drew-M-109349110
I wish Herman would move to the press box and call plays...

 
It's not good when coaches begin shuffling between the box and the sideline. Usually the first sign that change is on the horizon. Mehringer was put in a no win situation at Rutgers with the talent he was given and it being his first time calling plays. He is still widely regarded and was one of the best young coaches in the country. If a change were to take place during the season, it would most likely be Mehringer taking over play calling and not Herman.

 
Herman has said repeatedly he wont call plays from the sideline. 

Moving Drew to press box isnt exactly a vote of confidence in Beck not matter how Herman wants to spin it.

 
It's not good when coaches begin shuffling between the box and the sideline. Usually the first sign that change is on the horizon. Mehringer was put in a no win situation at Rutgers with the talent he was given and it being his first time calling plays. He is still widely regarded and was one of the best young coaches in the country. If a change were to take place during the season, it would most likely be Mehringer taking over play calling and not Herman.
Oh absolutely! I guess, to clarify, I would rather Herman call plays as opposed to Mehringer.  But anyone is probably better than Beck.  I honestly wish we'd throw money at Applewhite.  ya know, regarding "alignment". I don't care how Herman spins it, he'd much rather have Applewhite here calling plays as opposed to Beck.  And I'm sure the Mehringer move is based purely on the fact he's called plays in the past...

 
Herman has said repeatedly he wont call plays from the sideline. 

Moving Drew to press box isnt exactly a vote of confidence in Beck not matter how Herman wants to spin it.
Agreed! Herman does his best to show unity as a coaching staff; even taking the "blame" himself.  But regardless of his comments there's no way that he's happy about the play calling...

 
I am pretty sure Herman was yelling at Beck after one of our 4th quarter 3 and out.  He looked pissed and yelling into his headset as the punt team was going in.

 
It's not good when coaches begin shuffling between the box and the sideline. Usually the first sign that change is on the horizon. Mehringer was put in a no win situation at Rutgers with the talent he was given and it being his first time calling plays. He is still widely regarded and was one of the best young coaches in the country. If a change were to take place during the season, it would most likely be Mehringer taking over play calling and not Herman.
I got a "lol" when I said let Mehringer call plays after the last game.  I guess laughing is better than the crying this offense is producing.  May not work out, but at least it would show TH is trying something different.  I say give him a chance, can't get worse than what we have seen....lol.

 
It's not good when coaches begin shuffling between the box and the sideline. Usually the first sign that change is on the horizon. Mehringer was put in a no win situation at Rutgers with the talent he was given and it being his first time calling plays. He is still widely regarded and was one of the best young coaches in the country. If a change were to take place during the season, it would most likely be Mehringer taking over play calling and not Herman.
I got a "lol" when I said let Mehringer call plays after the last game.  I guess laughing is better than the crying this offense is producing.  May not work out, but at least it would show TH is trying something different.  I say give him a chance, can't get worse than what we have seen....lol.

 
If Herman believes that Beck is screwing things up, Beck is toast. We all know it and Beck knows it.  Tom's smart and he's not going to let any coach screw this up.

Tom is a proven OC, and I believe he has proven himself in the short term as a HC. If Beck isn't a good OC, Tom knows it, and Beck will be gone.  I'm watching his PC right now, and it looks like he's getting tired of answering what if questions. 

btw, these reporters are idiots. 

 
Drew was up there during our last game, it didn’t help 
He may have been put up there on recon; ya know, observe and report back. Something obviously isn't clicking with Beck and I assume Herman is trying to get an understanding of what that is and why

 
Depending on how the rest of the season shakes out. And ffter doing some research on Mehringer and his history with Tom Herman, he could be the OC at some point. Perhaps not this season because I don't think Tom operates like that. But I do think it's a definite possibility for next year...

 
Thinking Metrics | Watson & BeckBy: Gabriel

Posted on: October 24, 2017

Setting The Stag
The Texas Herman-Beck offense is in free-fall. It’s amazing just how bad the offense is, considering the talent. Of course, everyone will tell you, it all starts up front. That is true, for the most part. If you’re not blocking well, what can you do well? That goes for both the run and pass game. Far too often you see both penetration, players getting beat, and free-runners in the back field. It’s a sieve. What did you think, that Tom Herman is some kind of mastermind or something? Who are you, Dave Campbell? I digress. I wanted to peruse the numbers, mainly at footballoutsiders.com, to see how this continually terrible performance matche-up with 2014’s Shawn Watson offense. You remember that one, right? Let’s start there.

If you don’t recall, EVERYONE hated the Shawn Watson hire. Never mind the fact that he knew quarterbacks well. After all, he did recruit both Shane and Sam. What was Shawn’s problem? Well, do you remember Dom Espinosa getting injured the first game of the season? Also, quarterback, David Ash’s career ending after the same game? That left Watson with an offensive line containing, I believe, two ex-defensive linemen! Does that sound familiar? That year was a dumpster-fire on offense and it was a shame. The defense that season was the best Texas’ has seen since the losing national championship team. Add to that, sophomore quarterback, Tyrone Swoopes bore the brunt of that terrible unit ALL-SEASON LONG. Of course, Ty himself was also part of the problem. Watson was dead on arrival, especially given the attrition that occurred during Strong’s culture-change efforts.

Now you have a new staff, new system, and new players, but the same old story. Attrition and injuries plagued the 2017 offense from the jump. Starting right tackle, Brandon Hodges left the program. Then the unit loses new starting right tackle, Elijah Rodriguez, then, starting tight end, Andrew Beck. That’s not all! Texas lost new starting tight end, Garrett Gray after game 1 and starting quarterback, Shane Buechele too! The unthinkable happened after that. The team’s best player, starting left tackle, Connor Williams was injured early in the USC game (screams into the void)! Is Texas cursed? Seriously, when was the last time Texas has had a good offense? Oh yeah, it was last year. They at least ranked in the top-40 in S&P+, ran like hell with D’Onta Foreman, and scored points. This year, not so much, but when you look at the injuries, how?

2014 Offense (End of Year)

Metrics per footballoutsiders.com

Overall S&P+ #90

Success Rate #65

IsoPPP+ #94

Rushing S&P+ #52

Passing S&P+ #99

Standar Downs S&P+ #66

Passing Downs S&P+ #108

2017 Offense (Through 7 Games)

Overall S&P+ #72

Success Rate #62

IsoPPP+ #88

Rushing S&P+ #84

Passing S&P+ #70

Standard Downs S&P+ #80

Passing Downs S&P+ #65

What differences did you note? Mainly, the two offenses differ on Passing Downs, where the 2017 offense is more highly ranked. Of course, that is attributable to the fact that both Shane Buechele and Sam Ehlinger are better passers than Tyrone Swoopes. Also, Rushing and Standard Downs differ. Safe to say the 2014 offense was better running the football than this season’s offense. What’s the point? Well, there are shared circumstances between both years’ units. Neither was able to overcome their respective roster’s shortcomings. That is usually enough to get a coach or coaches fired. It happened with Watson, as he was demoted after the first game in 2015, then summarily fired after Strong brought in Sterlin Gilbert in 2016. By that time, Texas had a good offensive line, good backs, and a decent quarterback. Now, Texas is back in a similar situation as 2014.

Quarterback

Lastly, how do the quarterbacks compare? After all, both have contributed this season, Shane, 2 games and Sam, 5. Per foxsports.com, the quarterbacks have put together the following, Swoopes’ 2014 season along with Shane and Sam’s 2017.

Tyrone Swoopes – 224/384, 58.3%, 2,409 Yards Passing, 13 TD, 11 INT, QBR 116.5, 108/262 Yards Rushing (4 TD)

Shane Buechele – 55/80, 68.8%, 557 Yards Passing, 3 TD, 2 INT, QBR 134. 6, 31/66 Yards Rushing (1 TD)

Sam Ehlinger – 105/192, 55.7%, 1419 Yards Passing, 6 TD, 4 INT, QBR 124.0, 84/261 Yards Rushing (2 TD)

Now, how exactly do you interpret these statistics? You also have to consider what you see on ‘tape’ as well. Compare Ty’s stats to Shane and Sam’s. It’s no wonder why Shane replaced Ty last season. What do you think? Sticking to 2017, some may find it difficult to imagine Shane having to make all the bad plays right. On the other hand, Shane often makes the correct reads and gets the ball out quicker with more accuracy. The completion percentages between quarterbacks speak for themselves. Personally, the threshold I like for any quarterback is at least 60%. Given the amount of screens Texas throws, that should be attainable and yet, Sam remains below. In the run game, you feel more comfortable with Sam carrying the ball. Except now, he suffered a concussion against Oklahoma State, a defense that managed to completely confound the Texas offense. One thing is certain, Herman and Beck are in a tough spot. If Shane’s healthy again, finally, you can be sure they’re okay resting Sam. What I wonder is, will you see the staff utilize both in any game? We shall see. Tell me what you think in the comments!
http://texas.thefootballbrainiacs.com/2017/10/thinking-metrics-watson-beck/


BHave  13 hours ago





With your comment about enough to get coaches fired, are you predicting a new OC for Texas next year? If so, someone on staff to replace?








 

Gabriel Alcocer  BHave  12 hours ago





I’ll predict a change, because it’s inconsequential here. Also, I doubt it would be anyone currently on staff if it were to happen.








 
I read this last night.  Good stuff! I disagree with Gabriel tho.  IF an OC change were to happen, it'll be Mehringer taking over.  He's Tom Herman's protege...you know "alignment".  And I really don't think it's a matter of "if", more like "when"...
I agree.  The fact he sent Drew to the press box shows his trust in him.  TH has said multiple times its about trust when it comes to hires.  That is what makes Beck a questionable hire IMO.

 
If new OC next year, then Texas will have had a new OC every year for last 8 years. You can't switch OCs like underwear & expect to have any consistency in your offense.  Everyone wanted Greg Davis fired after the 99 season, & I believe every offensive record was rewritten with him at the helm after that.  The parallels between the 99 season & this season is poor OL play.  I'm withholding judgment on Beck until we have depth, & experience on the OL.  Hook 'em!

 
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