All Things Politics Thread

[hornsups]

Of course Biden thanked the black voters.  You can’t have a plantation without slaves.  
 

The Democratic Party was the worst thing to ever happen to the black family.  No need to black fathers since the government provides.  The more illegitimate children you have the more money you make.  No need for black young males to better themselves in order to prove to a black female they can be good providers.  
 

Fortunately, some, not all, blacks understand this and are becoming involved in the Republican Party. The Republican Party welcomes them. Hopefully their numbers will increase and we can have conservative leadership take over cities like Portland, Detroit, Chicago, Seattle, DC and a host of others and get people out of generational poverty, drug use, homeless and find the joy and value of having a job and providing for yourself instead of beholden to a government that hands out “goodies” as they see fit.  

Wow you’re take on the black family is something.. funny you think the Democratic Party is the worst thing to happen to our families. Not slavery or Jim Crow. That’s something.

I noticed you went from many to now saying some African Americans are becoming involved in the Republican Party. Sure some have. It’s a very small % of the African American population. That’s good for them. But the vast majority of us aren’t going there. If you want to know why.. just look at your post. You connected black people with homeless, poverty and drug use, and joblessness. You show what you think of our community and it’s negative. And notice you didn’t say anything police reform. That’s what black people have been asking for and marching for but your party cannot say Black Lives Matter without saying All Lives Matter. That’s not gonna get you anywhere with the community. But  believe whatever you want. Black women are the backbone in our community and they aren’t going anywhere near the Republican Party. But sure, you know more about black people want. ?

 

[hornsups]

I think there needs to be another update to this forum.  When people are ignored it should include "quotes" and "likes" to posts.  I mean I ignore them for the most part but this is borderline childish

Dang what happened since Saturday when you messaged me. You even said you would be gloating as well. Oh well. ??

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

We keep hearing that Democrats are good for the black community.  As you said, look at the history.  Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, etc.  There is the proof.  They keep voting Democrat because "most blacks feel the same way" isnt evidence of some mysterious knowledge that eludes common sense.  If anything it should be embarrassing when you look at the facts.

Dems are so "good" for the black community that they've chosen to keep them in poor, underperforming public schools when Republicans have proposed vouchers and government assistance to help them get better educations at charter schools.

https://ballotpedia.org/2020_presidential_candidates_on_charter_schools_and_voucher_programs

 

[hornsups]

Update from AZ:

Trump lawyer: their theory of the case isn’t fraud. They literally said it’s not a fraud case lol. Oh and they said it’s not a stealing of the election case. Isn’t they are arguing that there are “flaws” in the system. So sounds like they just threw their case away. If there was no fraud or stealing the election. There is no need to dispute the results of the voting in AZ. Oh and AZ has it where the count has to be within 200 votes for a recount. AZ gone. ?????? 

 

[UT1983]

Wow you’re take on the black family is something.. funny you think the Democratic Party is the worst thing to happen to our families. Not slavery or Jim Crow. That’s something.

I noticed you went from many to now saying some African Americans are becoming involved in the Republican Party. Sure some have. It’s a very small % of the African American population. That’s good for them. But the vast majority of us aren’t going there. If you want to know why.. just look at your post. You connected black people with homeless, poverty and drug use, and joblessness. You show what you think of our community and it’s negative. And notice you didn’t say anything police reform. That’s what black people have been asking for and marching for but your party cannot say Black Lives Matter without saying All Lives Matter. That’s not gonna get you anywhere with the community. But  believe whatever you want. Black women are the backbone in our community and they aren’t going anywhere near the Republican Party. But sure, you know more about black people want. ?

blm is a fraud.  If you do drugs, resist arrest and disobey police orders, then yes, you are in jeopardy of becoming hurt or worse.  Doesn’t matter if you are black, brown or white.  
 

I know what Americans want.  And that includes my black brothers and sisters that simply want a piece of the American dream and to live their lives peacefully and productively. 

 

[DMAC]

And notice you didn’t say anything police reform. That’s what black people have been asking for and marching for but your party cannot say Black Lives Matter without saying All Lives Matter.

Since I dont speak for the black community and you do what spin would you put on this?


81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Presence Despite Protests—Some Want More Cops: Poll


https://www.newsweek.com/81-black-americans-dont-want-less-police-presence-despite-protestssome-want-more-cops-poll-1523093

 

[hornsups]

blm is a fraud.  If you do drugs, resist arrest and disobey police orders, then yes, you are in jeopardy of becoming hurt or worse.  Doesn’t matter if you are black, brown or white.  
 

I know what Americans want.  And that includes my black brothers and sisters that simply want a piece of the American dream and to live their lives peacefully and productively. 

Saying Black Lives Matter doesn’t mean you support the BLM organization. If you don’t know that, don’t speak on what African Americans want because you don’t know shit about it. My black brother and sister. My black mother, my black father, etc etc. they want to make sure they don’t get killed. They don’t do drugs, they don’t resist arrest, or disobey officers. My brother is veteran. But that doesn’t mean he’s any less afraid of a police officer. I’m a college educated man who has never even had a speeding ticket. But that doesn’t mean I’m not afraid of being shot or killed by a cop. But just like with your views of the African American community being negative, you apparently think our interactions with police are all because of us doing something wrong and then we are shot because of our actions only. Keep speaking, you’re the walking example of why Republicans cannot get our votes. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

blm is a fraud.  If you do drugs, resist arrest and disobey police orders, then yes, you are in jeopardy of becoming hurt or worse.  Doesn’t matter if you are black, brown or white.  
 

I know what Americans want.  And that includes my black brothers and sisters that simply want a piece of the American dream and to live their lives peacefully and productively. 

...and now BLM is expecting to get PAID!

 

[DMAC]

Dang what happened since Saturday when you messaged me. You even said you would be gloating as well. Oh well. ??

Well that is ironic considering you told me you were worried about backlash after the fact.  

Yet here you are trying your best to calm things down and bring unity instead of division. 

Well you can be happy in your victory without being a complete asshole. 

The fact that I or anyone else even has to say this should give you some insight.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[hornsups]

Since I dont speak for the black community and you do what spin would you put on this?


81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Presence Despite Protests—Some Want More Cops: Poll


https://www.newsweek.com/81-black-americans-dont-want-less-police-presence-despite-protestssome-want-more-cops-poll-1523093

So do you know what police reform means?? I know, I know. You want to go with the narrative of “defund the police”. Show me where I say that?? Police reform means changing the way police interact with us, not taking away officers. They need to be trained better. There needs to be implicit bias training. There needs to be better training on de-escalation. There needs to be more community outreach from officers. There are so many things that need to be changed. But again show me where I said anything other than police reform...

 

[UT1983]

Saying Black Lives Matter doesn’t mean you support the BLM organization. If you don’t know that, don’t speak on what African Americans want because you don’t know shit about it. My black brother and sister. My black mother, my black father, etc etc. they want to make sure they don’t get killed. They don’t do drugs, they don’t resist arrest, or disobey officers. My brother is veteran. But that doesn’t mean he’s any less afraid of a police officer. I’m a college educated man who has never even had a speeding ticket. But that doesn’t mean I’m not afraid of being shot or killed by a cop. But just like with your views of the African American community being negative, you apparently think our interactions with police are all because of us doing something wrong and then we are shot because of our actions only. Keep speaking, you’re the walking example of why Republicans cannot get our votes. 

HornsUp.   You are so filled with hate you can’t see.  No rational argument will have any influence on you.  Very sad for some that is college educated especially.  Your fear is irrational but you will never believe that. 
 

Thank you for your family member serving our country.  My grandfather and dad served.  I have a nephew that is serving now.  
 

We will continue to disagree but glad we can do so peacefully.  I hope you find happiness within yourself. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[hornsups]

Well that is ironic considering you told me you were worried about backlash after the fact.  

Yet here you are trying your best to calm things down and bring unity instead of division. 

Well you can be happy in your victory without being a complete asshole. 

The fact that I or anyone else even has to say this should give you some insight.

Yeah I did say I worried about backlash if people didn’t accept the results. Show me where anyone on here has shown they have accepted or have started accepting the results?? And trust me I could be an asshole about this but haven’t really be doing that. I’m just taking my victory lap. I will respond here & there to things. But I’m not saying what I could say considering what I’ve heard from people on here prior to the election. Oh and I have to ask, when people keep trying to tell me it’s not over, how am I suppose to respond?? Do I lie to them and say you’re right, Trump may pull this off? Sorry not gonna do that. 

 

[DMAC]

So do you know what police reform means?? I know, I know. You want to go with the narrative of “defund the police”. Show me where I say that?? Police reform means changing the way police interact with us, not taking away officers. They need to be trained better. There needs to be implicit bias training. There needs to be better training on de-escalation. There needs to be more community outreach from officers. There are so many things that need to be changed. But again show me where I said anything other than police reform...

If thats true why didnt the Democrats pass the republican police reform which banned choke holds and more money for training?

 

[DMAC]

Yeah I did say I worried about backlash if people didn’t accept the results. Show me where anyone on here has shown they have accepted or have started accepting the results?? And trust me I could be an asshole about this but haven’t really be doing that. I’m just taking my victory lap. I will respond here & there to things. But I’m not saying what I could say considering what I’ve heard from people on here prior to the election. Oh and I have to ask, when people keep trying to tell me it’s not over, how am I suppose to respond?? Do I lie to them and say you’re right, Trump may pull this off? Sorry not gonna do that. 

Well it will be very interesting to see where we are in 3.5 years from now.  Speaking for myself, I am hoping we are in a better place for all Americans not just this group or that group.  This identity division isnt helping anyone.  It causes more harm and thats not difficult to see

 

[hornsups]

HornsUp.   You are so filled with hate you can’t see.  No rational argument will have any influence on you.  Very sad for some that is college educated especially.  Your fear is irrational but you will never believe that. 
 

Thank you for your family member serving our country.  My grandfather and dad served.  I have a nephew that is serving now.  
 

We will continue to disagree but glad we can do so peacefully.  I hope you find happiness within yourself. 

Man I have to do this again.. what hate?? I love my blackness so cannot be self hate. Cannot be hate of other races/religions. Let’s see: my roommates and best friends from college are Hispanic and White. My other good friend is Jewish. My best friend group has white, black, Hispanic, Asian and Indian members. We have Catholics, Jewish and Protestant people. Oh and my friend is a super conservative girl who worked for Prescott Bush, clerked for a Republican judge. Voted for Trump, has pics with Donald Jr all on her IG and I love her still. I let her tell me how unless masks are. Don’t say anything to her, that’s her beliefs. But tell me again, how much hate I have. 
 

And my fear is not irrational. That’s what you don’t get. Sure I’m a little safer in Austin since it’s more progressive but that doesn’t mean I’m less likely to be the next hashtag. Sorry you cannot understand that. 
 

And thank you for your family members service as well. My granddad, serviced as well. May he Rest In Peace 

 

[hornsups]

If thats true why didnt the Democrats pass the republican police reform which banned choke holds and more money for training?

Because it was enough. And it didn’t do anything to address qualified immunity, which is so key. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]