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*****National Signing Day Thread 2/1/17*****

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To lighten the mood a bit, and for those of you that love the football player name skits from Key and Peele:

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Yes, there's really a player named Kobe Buffalomeat.

 
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so in the end we got one of the three we were hoping for....I am ready for September to get here. I do have a question.....I know we are not in play here, but why has Big Marvin not signed yet? Is he waiting for an assigned time slot on ESPN to do the hat dance on National TV?

 
As a 50 plus year Longhorn fan I have immensely enjoyed reading opinions/insight on this forum.  My first time to post;  actually anything on social media. If you will permit..a few of my thoughts.

  • I Love Charlie Strong and have great respect for him as a man of character and integrity.  I am appreciative for all that he did for Texas football and the impact he had on the lives of the players. Only after the TCU game did I feel that a coaching change was imperative.  I sincerely believe that if Charlie were our coach now we would be much worse off with this years class.  I also believe Charlie Strong will be successful in the future in part because of the lessons he learned at Texas. 
  • I believe Tom Herman was the right hire for Texas. I think he is acutely aware of what is required to build an elite program and was smart enough to get a commitment from the Texas administration while he had the leverage to demand it. I really like the coaching staff he has assembled and think I understand now why he obsessed over "alignment".  I feel his  strengths in organization and attention to detail are key in taking the program back to the elite level.  I trust that he and Texas Administration have done and will continue to do due diligence relating to Casey Horney and if information comes to light that is actionable that they will deal with it swiftly.  I believe that the coaching staff want to win badly and are willing to work tirelessly towards it but also see that they are adamant about academic excellence and recognize that building and preparing young men for a successful life is job one.
  • It would be disingenuous to say you were not a little disappointed in the 2017 recruiting class. But  Its a new world.  The world is smaller with social media.  Its not just the Braves and Cowboys on TV anymore.  Kids can watch and connect with any team every Saturday.  If your not going to Europe to practice you may be at a disadvantage.  On top of that Tom Herman made no allusions that being in this program is HARD!!  Practice at 4:30 AM watered down eggs for the losing team.  I am surely not second guessing his methods...he has nine months to change the mindset of the current Texas players, however, I am sure the current team (and maybe your most important recruiting staff) were a little shell shocked with all the change and maybe not as effective or effusive in selling the program to recruits.  I fully expect this team to embrace and fully buy in to this and think things will be much different next year. That being said I am extremely impressed by the coaches talent evaluation and their ability to recruit to needs rather than star rating.  I am very happy with this class (what I perceive to be their character level) and what I feel will be their ability to affect our W-L record.  
There have been good times and lean times for longhorn fans over the years but I have always been proud to wear my longhorn hat even as I have lived in LSU country for the last 30 years.  At the risk of being a PollyAnna I am choosing to believe that better days are ahead, to look forward rather than back, to believe and get behind Tom Herman, this coaching staff and the current Texas players and recruits.  Can't wait for 2017! Hookem!

 
Herman opens his press conference by covering the Casey Horny situation. Handled it very well imho and hopefully puts it to rest. 
The Casey Horny situation is unquestionably not going to go away anytime soon. It is an unnecessary distraction Herman brought upon himself. Nothing Horny could possibly bring to the program could justify having to start his NSD presser with a Casey Horny question.

Great coaches don't create unnecessary distractions, let along allow them to linger. They eliminate them and keep focused on the important matters. Herman just doesn't want to have to admit he screwed up, and not admitting mistakes quickly is not the way to do things.

Mark my words, a year from now, as long as Casey Horny is still on the staff, Tom Herman is still going to be be deadling with the stench of the Baylor program Casey Horny puts upon UT football.

 
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The Casey Horny situation is unquestionably not going to go away anytime soon. It is an unnecessary distraction Herman brought upon himself. Nothing Horny could possibly bring to the program could justify having to start his NSD presser with a Casey Horny question.

Great coaches don't create unnecessary distractions, let along allow them to linger. They eliminate them and keep focused on the important matters. Herman just doesn't want to have to admit he screwed up, and not admitting mistakes quickly is not the way to do things.

Mark my words, a year from now, as long as Casey Horny is still on the staff, Tom Herman is still going to be be deadling with the stench of the Baylor program Casey Horny puts upon UT football.
You hated Strong and you now appear to be on the path of hating Herman. Might be a good time to find a new team. 

 
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The Casey Horny situation is unquestionably not going to go away anytime soon. It is an unnecessary distraction Herman brought upon himself. Nothing Horny could possibly bring to the program could justify having to start his NSD presser with a Casey Horny question.

Great coaches don't create unnecessary distractions, let along allow them to linger. They eliminate them and keep focused on the important matters. Herman just doesn't want to have to admit he screwed up, and not admitting mistakes quickly is not the way to do things.

Mark my words, a year from now, as long as Casey Horny is still on the staff, Tom Herman is still going to be be deadling with the stench of the Baylor program Casey Horny puts upon UT football.
i agree with this.  the only thing i don't like about herman is this hire.  absolutely no reason to bring this into our program.  i just hope it didn't hurt recruiting this year or others to come.

 
You hated Strong and you now appear to be on the path of hating Herman. Might be a good time to find a new team. 
I didn't hate Strong and I don't hate Herman. I don't love or hate people I have never met. Why would I love someone whose only connection I have with is they were hired to coach the football team of the school I attended? Why would I hate that person?

Your "love/hate" metric is insipid. I'm not looking for a head football coach to kiss me on the cheek or to make me swoon.

In the cold, harsh realities of a competitive business where results matter, it is reasonable to maintain one's objectivity and not get clouded with feelings of "love" or "hate." Instead, let's just use more rational parameters of whether they have met expectations, exceeded expectations or failed to meet expectations.

For all he did, Charlie Strong largely failed to meet expectations. I don't hate him for that. In fact, I wish him well. He was just a bad fit for the UT program. I have my opinions on why that was so, but those are for another time.

So far, I feel Tom Herman has unquestionably failed to exceed expectations. I publicly stated I give his performance so far at Texas a grade of C-. No love, no hate, Just totally unimpressed.

His move to bring the stench of the Baylor rape scandal into the program to such a degree that his first question of his NSD presser was about Horny makes me question whether Herman is mentally playing checkers or chess. That whole issue was a self-inflicted unnecessary distraction that should have never happened and, once his error was realized, it should have been eliminated immediately. Herman needs to focus on getting the program turned around. He doesn't have time or energy to waste defending the clouded judgment and bad decisions of his buddies that he hired on staff because he knew they couldn't get hired anywhere else and he felt sorry. Everyone should be accountable. Screw up and you are gone. Horny screwed up. Wake up, Tom.

Successful coaches don't create needless distractions, they eliminate needless distractions asap and they stay on message so when they are front and center, such as a NSD presser, they are delivering the message they want to deliver, not being raked over the coals for what everyone including Tom realizes was a dumb move.

Again, sheer stupidity from the start. He just doesn't want to have to admit he made a dumb mistake in hiring Horny. His ego is getting in the way.

As for the recruiting class, at best he met expectations. There is little about this class to signify the Tom Herman era is kicking off with a lot of strength. In my mind, Herman should already be able to recruit in the state of Texas. Obviously, he isn't as strong of a recruiter in-state as I thought. 

No love, no hate. Just nothing I can point to that makes me believe Tom Herman is in full stride and that giving him "total control" is paying benefits.

I'm disappointed in his creating unnecessary distractions, I'm disappointed he hasn't done a better job of eliminating unnecessary distractions, I was less than impressed he allowed himself to be quoted with the "Iowa State" comment the way he did, I though he was already a stronger in-state recruiter.

I'm looking for Herman to exceed expectations. Not just meet expectations, but exceed them. Tom Herman wasn't hired or given "total control" to fail to meet expectations. He was hired to turn the program around. And the lack of momentum or excitement attached to the program coming out of NSD leaves me looking for signs the program has turned around. 

If Herman fires Horny, I'm not going to "love" him. If he gets better at delivering quotes and eliminates stupidity such as how his "Iowa State" quote was reported, I'm not going to love him. If he starts recruiting better I'm not going to love him. If he wins a national championship I'm not going to love him. It's not a "love/hate" thing for me.

I just want to respect his leadership and support him. I'm looking for him to start delivering so I can begin to do both. Like I said, so far I give Tom Herman a C-.

 
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Again, sheer stupidity from the start. He just doesn't want to have to admit he made a dumb mistake in hiring Horny. His ego is getting in the way, even though it's only considered a mistake by me, myself and I.

Herman should already be able to recruit in the state of Texas. Obviously, I don't follow recruiting as well as I thought or I'd know that by the time Herman came aboard, the elite prospects were already bound to other destinations.

No love, no hate. Just nothing I can point to that makes be believe Tom Herman is in full stride and that giving him "total control" is paying benefits even though he was only hired at the end of November. We should have peace in the mideast by now by God.

I'm looking for Herman to exceed my own crazy expectations. 

Fixed a few things for you.

 
LMAO SHA. I'm just getting off from work and I'm trying to catch up. There's so much I want to say but I gotta relax first

 
Fixed a few things for you.
Either you produce results or you produce excuses. There ain't no middle ground.

I'm looking for results and the results simply weren't there.

Feel free to pick all the excuses you want. Just let me know when Herman starts delivering results. I have no interest in hearing any excuses.

 
Either you produce results or you produce excuses. There ain't no middle ground.

I'm looking for results and the results simply weren't there.

Feel free to pick all the excuses you want. Just let me know when Herman starts delivering results. I have no interest in hearing any excuses.

You're less than three months in and you're ready to fire a head coach who hasn't seen his first off-season yet.

What results could you possibly be looking for? Charlie produced results. Kids got bigger, stronger, better young men. And we lost.

I haven't offered one single excuse. Refusing to participate in your Doom and Gloom party doesn't equate to making excuses.

Please continue, . . you're in rare form, even for you.

 
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