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Big 12 Expansion Project

also open question whether the nebbie move or the aggy move was more unsmart.

what isn't a question, open or otherwise, is whether the nebbie move or the aggy move was worse for the state of texas.  hs programs.  college programs.  whole damn state.

the state of texas should give aggy to japan as a good will gesture for them to use as a japanese university or hazardous waste facility.  their choice.
I read on another blog somewhere that Nebraska has almost doubled its research grant money to approx $400M due to its association with the B1G and CIC. If true, that's a B1G win (pun intended) for NU and its academic prestige and cachet. Their administration loves "their new friends". 

Athletically, I think NU screwed up royally because they effectively cut off its "Texas pipeline" and is now playing in the Rust Belt's most boring division. Iowa is their new rival? Woof.

Now aggy's move, IMO, was one of desperation. Being able to co-brand everything SEC and claim athletic prestige by association was important to them for whatever reason. Forget about not having any history or fabled tradition with its new league members...SEC SEC SEC. Odd, but then aggy.

Based on the fan & alumni excitement and their recent fund-raising efforts, I'd have to say the SEC move was great for aggy...at least short-term. But, when does that new car smell finally wear off when you're still languishing in the middle of the pack in the one sport that matters to you? They did win the SEC in men's hoops, so maybe they can become a basketball power with a Houston talent pool? Is that important to them?

How good the SEC move is long-term will be determined by their next head football coach. If it's somebody like Tom Herman, they may have something. Otherwise, they're the next Arkansas. Whoop!

 
I don't think adding any of the Go5 members will add anything to the big 12. The big10 and SEC are going to be bringing in way more revenue than the other 3 p5 conference. I think a more likely scenario is a merger between 2 of the 3 p5 conferences. ESPN has been gun shy in acquiring rights and seems like in no hurry to help the ACC get their network set-up. ESPN reportedly has clause that if the network is not set-up by July 1,2016 they owe the ACC $45M. I think a big12/ACC merger with the T3 rights (LHN) being left to each individual school is a possibility. 

Big12/ACC West:

Texas

Tech

TCU

Baylor

OU

OK St

Kansas

Iowa St or Kstate

Big12/ACC East:

Florida St

Clemson

Miami

Georgia Tech

West Virginia

Pittsburgh

UNC

Duke
So you are getting rid of 1 Big 12 and 8 ACC schools in this "merger"? It cannot happen because the ACC needs 11 votes to make any decision, so the SEC and Big Ten would have to get at least 4 of the schools to make it happen (what school would vote in favor of expelling itself to the Go5 ranks?). Virginia, VT, and NCSU would be okay, but Syracuse, BC, WF, and Louisville would be in trouble. Notre Dame could be the 11th vote, but that school's not joining the Big Ten. Also, does UNC care about Duke (and power) enough to make less money in the Big 12/ACC than it could in the Big Ten?

I do agree that the Big 12 or ACC will have to go though.

 
Blow It All To Hell

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One of the best breakdowns I've seen on Big 12 expansion candidate schools. This is from the Cinncinnatti newspaper.

http://www.cincinnat...s-out/85193190/


UC vs. Big 12 candidates: Who stands out?
As Big 12 Conference presidents prepare to meet this week to discuss whether the league should add schools, The Enquirer takes a look at the expansion candidates.
Eight schools have widely been mentioned as possible new additions to the Big 12, which could add two schools or might not expand at all. In addition to the University of Cincinnati, Brigham Young, Houston, Connecticut, Memphis, Central Florida, Boise State and Colorado State have been raising their hands yelling "pick me!"
Here's a look at how the candidates compare to each other:

Possible attractive qualities
• BYU leads the pack in football TV ratings and football and basketball attendance. The Cougars have finished in the top 30 in major college football attendance nine of the past 10 seasons, according to an Enquirer analysis of NCAA data. In basketball, BYU has ranked in the top 20 nationally in attendance the past five seasons. (NCAA rankings are not yet available for 2015-16 season.)
• In 2015, UC completed an $86 million expansion of Nippert Stadium that added new luxury suites, club seats, a party deck and press box. Also, UC is by far the closest expansion candidate to the Big 12's geographic outlier, West Virginia. But geography may not play a factor, even though West Virginia would like to have a closer conference rival. "The TV guys loom large in deciding who conferences are bringing into their league, and I’m not sure if they care about proximity of schools at all," said Courtney Brunious, associate director of the University of Southern California's Sports Business Institute.
• Boise State and Houston could give the Big 12 two more Top 25 football programs. Boise has finished with a top-20 ranking six of the past 10 seasons. Houston is coming off a 13-1 season in which it beat Florida State in the Peach Bowl and finished No. 8 in the Associated Press and coaches' polls.
• Houston opened a new, 40,000-seat stadium two years ago. Billionaire Texans Red McCombs and Tilman Fertitta also have been publicly calling for the Big 12 to add the school.
• Colorado State is in the process of building a $238.5 million on-campus football stadium. It's scheduled to open for the 2017 season.
• FedEx has vowed to become a major Big 12 sponsor if the conference takes Memphis, according to ESPN.com. The Memphis-based shipping giant could sponsor a Big 12 football championship game.
• Although football and the TV money that comes with it has driven conference realignment, Connecticut has more NCAA men's basketball championships than any current Big 12 school or expansion candidate. The Huskies have four national titles, including in 2011 and 2014.

Possible unattractive qualities
• None of the candidates appear to have the ability to significantly increase the Big 12's television revenue, except maybe BYU. That's partly due to some of the schools being overshadowed by professional teams and other colleges in their own TV market. Big 12 officials have this concern about Houston and Cincinnati.
• BYU's affiliation with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not permit the schools' athletic teams from playing on Sunday. That's typically not a problem for football, but it could create a scheduling nightmare for basketball and other sports that play games on Sunday.
• Boise State and Central Florida are both over 1,000 miles away from the closest Big 12 school.
• Memphis plays its football and basketball games in off-campus venues.
• Except for BYU and Memphis, all the candidates' football stadiums are smaller than the Big 12's smallest venue (Texas Christian's 45,000-seat Amon G. Carter Stadium). However, UC and Houston could play some home games in their cities' NFL stadiums.

Football TV ratings
A look at the 10 most-watched regular-season games involving the candidates during each of the past two seasons, based on an Enquirer analysis of Sports Media Watch data:
2015
BYU vs. Nebraska: 3.134 million viewers, ABC
BYU vs. Michigan: 3.071M, ABC
Houston vs. Navy: 3.055M, ABC
Boise State vs. Washington: 2.058M, ESPN
Connecticut vs. Missouri: 1.903M, ESPN
Cincinnati vs. BYU: 1.468M, ESPN
Cincinnati vs. Miami (Florida): 1.348M, ESPN
Cincinnati vs. Memphis: 1.242M, ESPN
BYU vs. Connecticut: 1.240M, ESPN2
Memphis vs. Tulsa: 1.216M, ESPN
(Memphis-Ole Miss had combined viewership with Iowa-Northwestern of 3.311M on ABC.)
2014
Boise State vs. Ole Miss: 2.42M, ESPN
BYU vs. Virginia: 1.64M, ESPN
Boise State vs. Fresno State: 1.62M, ESPN
Connecticut vs. South Florida: 1.36M, ESPN
BYU vs. Central Florida: 1.34M, ESPN
Cincinnati vs. Houston: 1.31M, ESPN
Central Florida vs. Penn State: 1.29M, ESPN2
BYU vs. Utah State: 1.17M, ESPN
BYU vs. Connecticut: 1.08M, ESPN
BYU vs. Houston: 1.05M, ESPN
(Data not available for CBS Sports Network, which has a deal with the American Athletic Conference – UC, Memphis, Houston, Central Florida, Connecticut – and the Mountain West Conference – Boise State and Colorado State.)

http://e.infogr.am/a...870d6?src=embed

TV market size
Nielsen's national ranking of the markets where each candidate is located:
10. Houston
17. Colorado State (Denver)
19. Central Florida (Orlando/Daytona Beach/Melbourne)
30. Connecticut (Hartford/New Haven)
34. BYU (Salt Lake City)
36. Cincinnati
50. Memphis
107. Boise State (Boise)
• Big 12 rankings: Texas Christian is located in conference's largest market (No. 5 Dallas/Fort Worth); Texas Tech is in the smallest (No. 144 Lubbock).
Athletic revenue
How candidates fared in USA Today's latest college athletics financial rankings:
48. Connecticut $72.2 million (university subsidy: $28.1M)
54. Cincinnati $52.5M (subsidy: $23.2M)
55. Central Florida $51.5M (subsidy: $24.8M)
62. Houston $44.8M (subsidy: $12.4M)
64. Boise State $43.9M (subsidy: $12.4M)
65. Memphis $43.4M (subsidy: $12.8M)
70. Colorado State $38.5M (subsidy: $20.4M)

• Big 12 rankings: Texas has the highest national ranking at No. 2 with $183.5M; Iowa State has the lowest at No. 47 with $75.3M. The athletic departments at Texas and Oklahoma do not receive a university subsidy; Oklahoma State receives the biggest subsidy of $7.8M.)
(BYU is a private school and not subject to publicly disclose financial records. The school reportedly signed an eight-year deal with ESPN in 2010 paying BYU between $800,000 and $1.2 million per home game.)

Academic ranking
U.S. News & World Report’s national rankings:
57. Connecticut
66. BYU
127. Colorado State
140. Cincinnati
168. Central Florida
187. Houston
NR. Memphis
NR. Boise State
• Big 12 rankings: Texas had the highest at No. 42; West Virginia had the lowest at No. 175.


http://e.infogr.am/e...c2d67?src=embed

Football fan index rankings
How candidates fared in USA Today's 2015 College Football Fan Index, which ranks each major college team's fans by social media data and online polling:
47. Boise State
50. BYU
54. Memphis
59. Houston
92. Colorado State
93. Central Florida
94. Cincinnati
106. Connecticut
• Big 12 rankings: Oklahoma had the highest ranking at No. 10; Kansas had the lowest at 69th.

Proximity
A look at each candidates' closest Big 12 school:
• Houston 166 miles to University of Texas​
• Cincinnati 305 miles to West Virginia
• Memphis 472 miles to Oklahoma State
• Connecticut 522 miles to West Virginia
• Colorado State 547 miles to Kansas State
• BYU 872 miles to Texas Tech
• Central Florida 1,046 miles to Texas Christian
• Boise State 1,253 miles to Texas Tech

http://e.infogr.am/3...d84fc?src=embed

 
there can be one person impressed by what he or she sees on the lhn that makes it worth it to us, and i'm betting there are lots of those one persons.  that thought must be eating boren alive.

also this talk of no one watches lhn is kind of tinny when you realize the network is beginning to turn a profit.

 
Expansion is coming....The reinstatement of the CCG and the likely change to divisions all but assures it. 

 
Potential Big 12 Divisions?

(NORTH)
OU
OK State
KSU
KU
ISU

(SOUTH)
Baylor
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech
WVU

 
— Twitter API (@twitterapi) November 7, 2011

What, exactly, is OU bitching about again?

Does anybody else wonder why the SEC didn't reveal their financials or TV revenues? As Duke said, if the story was positive you can bet your ass they'd be thumping their chests. But we've got *crickets*.

In time, everybody will see that owning your own T3 rights is best. Vindication

 
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