Would Aggie Veto a Texas to SEC realignment?

[Randolph Duke]

That just shows your ignorance on two fronts. Directors Cup ranks all NCAA school's athletic programs both men and women. Stanford has won 19 straight.

And the fact you had no clue I was jacking you around shows your ignorance.

The Director's Cup awards a school points for a national championship regardless of the sport. Last year, North Dakota State got the same points for winning hockey as Alabama did for winning football. That alone indicates its stupidity.

The model Deloss brought to UT was that we don't compete in sports we can win championships in. We play 7 men's and 10 women's sports. Stanford competes in probably twice that many sports. They want every student to be a student athlete, as do real military academies, ND and a few other.

At Texas we don't give a crap about sports like meat judging. Thatis for schools who compete against North Dakota State. No UT alum has evber complained about our showing in the Director's Cup. We care about championships. REAL championships, not fake ones we claim from when the Wright brothers were still building planes.

 

[tshirtfan12]

UT was top 10 from '01-'08 in the directors cup and it was broadcast on every UT internet site including the Daily Texan and the SID. Meat judging does not equal basketball, track and field, baseball. Someone would have to be delusional to think otherwise and at a minimal never played competitive athletics.

 

[ridik01]

They could but we triumph them in everything. The veto would get overruled.

I could actually see this Florida, A&M, Georgia, and South Carolina ll vetoing us because they don't want the SEC inviting Clemson, Ga Tech, FSU, or Texas.

 

[Randolph Duke]

UT was top 10 from '01-'08 in the directors cup and it was broadcast on every UT internet site including the Daily Texan and the SID. Meat judging does not equal basketball, track and field, baseball. Someone would have to be delusional to think otherwise and at a minimal never played competitive athletics.

I have never heard of an athlete who signed with a school because they wanted to compete for a Director's Cup. I have never known any athletes from competing schools who years later talked about where their schools finished in the Director's Cup. I have never seen a coach's contract that offered an incentive bonus for Director's Cup points. I have never seen ESPN mention a word about Director's Cup standings. I have never seen a SI cover on the Direcor's Cup winner. I have never met a fan who gave a crap about where their school was during the year in the Director's Cup standings. No one cares about the Director's Cup. We care about national championships. End of story.

 

[TheContractor]

You know guys, if you win championships in different sports then you win the directors cup. So just hire the best coaches you can and recruit the best players we can and do our best to win and everything takes care of itself.

 

[joebobb]

There is a big difference with those other schools and it is more than because this is Texas.

But ultimately, The SEC would not veto Texas because they are the flagship university of the state and that brings the most power, clout and resources from the state house. Texas brings things to the table that A&M cant because of its position as the Flagship university of Texas. The other schools (Clemson, FSU, Ga Tech) are not flagships and play second fiddle to the flagship in the state. While Ga-Tech may be a great academic school, they are a different animal than UGA and therefore, are not treated the same.

 

[Juan]

Didnt want to start a new thread for this

Athlon 2014 picks aggie 5th in the SEC West

Just ahead of Miss St.

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/early-sec-football-predictions-2014

5. Texas A&M
With the Aggies recruiting at a high level, Kevin Sumlin’s team will be back in the mix for a SEC title in the next few years. But with Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans declaring for the NFL Draft, Texas A&M is due to take a step back in the win column in 2014. Who replaces Manziel is a huge question mark, but again, there’s talent in place. Kyle Allen and Kenny Hill will push senior Matt Joeckel for the starting spot. Allen is regarded as one of the top prospects in the 2014 signing class. Even with Evans leaving and tackle Jake Matthews expiring his eligibility, the winner of the quarterback battle will have a strong supporting cast. Regardless of how well the offense performs, Texas A&M has to find answers on defense. The Aggies allowed 499.1 yards and 36.5 points per game in eight SEC contests. Youth and inexperience factored prominently into the struggles, so another offseason under coordinator Mark Snyder should help this unit eliminate some of the mistakes. And there’s plenty of help on the way from one of the nation’s top recruiting classes.

 

[Davharjac]

Aggy wouldn't want Texas in, and other schools that have stated to do better in terms of recruiting in Texas would not want The University of Texas in the conference. You guys say what going to the SEC did for Aggy's recruiting....imagine what it would do for Texas. That and the money issue. Texas isn't sharing LHN w anyone other than it's owner ESPN. The SEC now has it's own network. Culturally Texas does not belong in the SEC, I am not too sure that Aggy belongs there either. AM, as much as we get after them, is a pretty good school. The SEC is about making revenue from football...I don't like some of their practices, most notably the practice of over signing. It happens everywhere, but nowhere near as much as it does in the SEC. That conf is shady business and I for one would rather stay away from it. Joining the SEC just to piss of Aggy isn't enough of a reason to me. The PAC 12 is the best fit for all sports at UT, but the time difference would be horrid. I think that joining the ACC may be an interesting fit. With teams like FSU, Clemson, and a down Miami team, Texas would have enough competition in all sports. I also wouldn't mind giving the Big 12 a face lift by adding FSU and Clemson, not likely esp after FSu has won a title.

 

[PropositionJoe]

i dont think A&M would be alone in vetoing it. i think A&M would likely be joined by arkansas, lsu, and missouri at least.

that being said, pattersons connection to the west coast make me think that texas will probably be pac12 bound next time expansion comes around.

 

[Irish in SEC country]

So, in the last 32 years (1980 to now), the SEC has won 12 NCs, with the last 7 in a row.Everything is cyclical. They won't make it to an even 10. The traditionally strong powers will be back and some may already be back (FSU, Ohio State, etc).

Oregon and Stanford are knocking on ther door, Texas will win again with a new coach, Penn State will rebound some, Nebraska can compete again with anyone other than Pelini, Clemson and Oklahoma can be contenders, as possibly Miami if Golden sticks around.

The SEC is great right now. But they won't maintain this current dominance forever, probably even for the next 3 years. Too many good coaches out there right now, and not all in the SEC.

2012 Alabama BCS

2011 Alabama BCS

2010 Auburn BCS

2009 Alabama BCS

2008 Florida BCS

2007 Louisiana State BCS

2006 Florida BCS

2005 Texas BCS

2004 Southern California BCS

2003 Louisiana State, Southern California BCS, AP, FWAA

2002 Ohio State BCS

2001 Miami (Fla.) BCS

2000 Oklahoma BCS

1999 Florida State BCS

1998 Tennessee BCS

1997 Michigan, Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/ESPN

1996 Florida AP, FWAA, NFF,USA/CNN

1995 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1994 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1993 Florida St. AP, FWAA,NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1992 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1991 Washington, Miami (Fla.) FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI,AP

1990 Colorado, Georgia Tech FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, AP, UPI

1989 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1988 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1987 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1986 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1985 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1984 Brigham Young AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1983 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1982 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI

1981 Clemson AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI

1980 Georgia

The SEC will not continue to dominate football national titles as it has this century, but the southeast and the 2 conferences associated with it may dominate the rest of the country. That is the football reason we Domers made the deal with the ACC. It makes ND an honorary southeastern school for football recruiting. That is the final piece of the puzzle for us to get back to winning national titles.

 

[Irish in SEC country]

And the fact you had no clue I was jacking you around shows your ignorance.
The Director's Cup awards a school points for a national championship regardless of the sport. Last year, North Dakota State got the same points for winning hockey as Alabama did for winning football. That alone indicates its stupidity.

The model Deloss brought to UT was that we don't compete in sports we can win championships in. We play 7 men's and 10 women's sports. Stanford competes in probably twice that many sports. They want every student to be a student athlete, as do real military academies, ND and a few other.

At Texas we don't give a crap about sports like meat judging. Thatis for schools who compete against North Dakota State. No UT alum has evber complained about our showing in the Director's Cup. We care about championships. REAL championships, not fake ones we claim from when the Wright brothers were still building planes.

What I find funny about this post and your others along this line is that you sound exactly like a 'mouth breather' from the SEC who cares about, in order, football, spring football, football signing day, basketball, baseball, and nothing else. The average dolt from Mississippi State or LSU or Arkansas or Auburn says exactly the same.

 

[texasdobbs]

I would veto us going to SEC.... it will not happen anyway

 

[Irish in SEC country]

Two points:
1. UT would've been chosen by the SEC over Mizzery OR A&M if we were interested in being there. Moot point. It's possible that Mike Slive is retarded, but I doubt it.

2. IMHO, our next move will be an arrangement similar to what Notre Dame or BYU has. Football independence with conference affiliation for every other sport.

1. True

2. All but a given - If Texas makes a move, it will be to join ND

 

[JMagana]

Taken everything that's been said.... Give me the Pac 16 a lot better destination Texas in east and USC west in conference championship rotating from Rose, Cotton, and Fiesta, and now the 49ers new stadium.

 

[armadillo slim]

there are no conferences that would reject Texas (by itself) joining it. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

There is the null set of conferences that would reject Texas. Period.

 

[Randolph Duke]

there are no conferences that would reject Texas (by itself) joining it. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.
There is the null set of conferences that would reject Texas. Period.

True. Aggy would b!tch and moan about it, but the grown-ups in Birmingham would shut them up. Texas brings too much with it to pass up. The question remains why Texas would want to ever join the SEC, but if we wanted in, we would get in. I still think the only reason Texas would even consider such a move would be because some major shirt happened in the economics of college football that set off a major wave of restructuring. My bet is that if it happens, it will be because cable bundling was prohibited by Congress and the various sports channels became a-la-carte subscriptions. Canada is trying to make that happen and if it happens up there, there is a good chance it happens down here.

 

[Brasky]

No thanks to the SEC.

This stuff is all cyclical. Not very long ago LSU and Alabama sucked. How appealing is that conference if they're not dominating? Not very. You can't make a move based on what is happening today or even 7 or 8 years from now. If the SEC is not thoroughly dominating I say they have almost the least appeal of the viable options. Even with their (overstated) dominance of today I would still prefer a few alternatives.

 

[Topstarr]

moot moot moot POINT. Never Never will Texas be in the SEC. I guess only for the time being.

 

[texasdobbs]

If forced to spend weekends in the fall driving endlessly through Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky and Tennessee I will give up college football.
If you have such an affinity for those of the blue collar rural south, you must have loathed your time in Austin. For me, I much prefer games in Dallas, visiting friends in West Texas and an occasional trip to Stillwater (to remind me how lucky I am to be a Texan). Towns like Starkville, Auburn and even College Station, where a decent meal consists of grease laden crap from Applebees cooked by someone who is his own cousin do nothing for me.

West Virginia isn't great but its not a bad drive from D.C. and those people are a welcome upgrade in both culture and sophistication over the aggys.

I, for one, have no interest in spending weekends in rural backwaters of the old south. No thanks.

Easy now there Yankee boy... us country boys don't think to kindly to talk like this

 

[GetHooked]

IF Texas wanted to join the SEC, the SEC would kick A&M out in order to get Texas.

They would want to just add us but no conference would turn Texas down.