pringlelake, I respect you as a poster, but I need to correct a few of your assumptions.
1). You assume I got my information here. I am sorry to disappoint you, but you are wrong. I did not get the information on Muschamp's final review from a blog. Not everyone does. That is why assumptions can be very treacherous. I can assure you that it is solid, but I will not reveal more.
2). I made an observation about the State of the Program when Charlie was hired. It was a train wreck. I approved of the dismissals for repeated violations of team rules. Perhaps you did and perhaps you didn't. You did not answer my questions, but only questioned my knowledge, so I don't know.
3). I don't post random gossip. It is just not my style. I do post opinions, and they are typically positive, but Mack held on too long and did a great deal of damage to my University. It has tarnished my opinion of him as a person and a coach. He has a number of wins and the VY National Championship, but DKR is the greatest coach we ever had. Royal left with class and dignity. Mack hired Jamail.
4) You will not see another response from me. There is no point, and it bores other posters.
Java, likewise I respect you as a poster. But I need to correct some of your apparent misunderstanding of what I posted.
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not assume you got your information here and never said anything to even remotely suggest that. [/SIZE][SIZE=14.3999996185303px]All of it has been posted and repeated and discussed ad nauseum all over message boards across the internet for well more than a year. Hopefully you didn't think I was hearing what you posted here for the first time. Once it gets repeated often enough...it becomes a "fact" ...unless someone steps up to the plate and says...hey..wait a minute..how do you know that's true? [/SIZE]
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px] All I asked was whether you had personal knowledge of the truth of your slams at Mack regarding Muschamp's final [/SIZE]
review[SIZE=14.3999996185303px] and what someone allegedly overheard Bruce Matthews say at a spring practice and then the twist toward Mack's running off quarterbacks and Harsin etc etc. If you do have personal knowledge all those things are true...just say so.[/SIZE]
2. Regarding the state of the program when Charlie arrived, I do not agree that all of the blame for the personnel problems this year rests upon the "weak shoulders of Mack Brown". There were a combination of circumstances that created the problems....some of them were Mack's fault, some were just pure bad luck and others likely resulted from poor decisions made by the current staff.
I'm not quite sure what questions you're talking about that I didn't answer. Stuff related to whether the gossip and hearsay you posted about Mack is true or not true??
I'll answer right now. I don't know. But then again, neither do you. Chances are good that there is a tad of truth mixed in with a substantially greater portion of untruth.
3. I agree that Mack held on too long, but I'm unaware of the "great damage" Mack did to our University?? Maybe you could PM me to define that damage more specifically. I agree that DKR was the greatest coach we've ever had and he left with class. Regarding Mack hiring Jamail?? How do you know he hired him?? Isn't it just as likely that he and Joe were close friends and that Joe wanted to make certain Mack received the compensation to which he was entitled when he left? I think that scenario is just as likely as the "Mack hired Jamail" scenario. It's not like Jamail needed to be paid or hired.
It seems to me that you and I agree regarding factual issues...that Mack let the program decline during his last few years and that he should have been fired (pushed out) sooner. What we disagree about is all the gossip and hearsay surrounding his personal business.
So now that we've both had our final post, we can agree to disagree and walk away as friends. And as you said, you will see no further response from me, as I agree that it's personal and boring to others.