Steve Patterson

[HookemDTX]

He's not bringing his staff. Will probably bring Bedford as his DC and his LB coach and strength coach.
I would have to think that he would bring in an entirely new offensive staff.

This.

 

[badboy783]

This does not sit well with me for some reason. Not what you wrote Darrell, just their mindset, thought process if you will. Thank you for your thoughts

Entitlement has been allowed in this program for a long time. The family atmosphere brought a lot of success but when things fell off that family began turning on one another quickly like step-children.

This will be a new learning curve for all invlovled.

 

[TruthSpeaks28]

No one said the only reason they liked him is because of his race. Not sure how you came to that conclusion?

The thing about his race is the big example brought up about it (competing with Sumlin in recruiting). Not saying that's the only thing they liked about him, just that it's the thing posted most about it in regards to the BMDs that were in support/discussions about Strong (another mod on TOS posted almost the same thing).

 

[HornEsch]

You have not got the slightest clue what you are talking about. The "BMDs" are not a monolith. A large group of them had the courage and determination to finally stand up and insist on long overdue changes in the UT head coach and AD. Were it not for them, UT would be still limping along in the pathetic mediocrity of MBTF. They are worthy of gratitude from every true UT fan. They trusted Patterson to do a thorough search and use their and UT's resources to hire the best available head coach for UT. They are EXACTLY right to be disappointed that Patterson passed on much better alternatives than Charlie Strong. These people are all successful professionals and they clearly they misjudged Patterson's temperament, competence and professionalism. Patterson proved himself to be unworthy of their respect and confidence. That is the reality no matter how much you want to rant to the contrary.

That may be your reality, but please don't post it as fact. You have been the one ranting a lot today. I get you don't agree with the choice or how it went down. Hell I think it is embarrassing, but more due to the media and some of (not all) BMDs.

Nobody has a clue if CS or any of the big names will be the correct hire. For all of their money and influence, the BMDs are no more an expert on football coaching than any other fans. They are fans with means.

I appreciate their role in helping get Mack out. However there were some of them fighting to keep him. Just like with this they all had different directions they wanted the hire to go. Good for them. For the record I wanted Fisher or Harbour first, but only a fool thinks Strong is a bad choice.

 

[PDX Horn]

I hate that the BMDs in favor only seem to like him because of his race.

That's not what was posted.

 

[athenslawyer]

"I spoke with a Louisville source moments ago and he said, "If you don't eat bricks for breakfast, you won't last long with Charlie Strong. The first thing he's going to do is find out who is tough and who isn't. The guys that aren't tough won't be around long."

This alone is all I need to hear to be sold on Charlie Strong.

 

[doc longhorn]

Well you can certainly say that Patterson is his own man.
We all wanted the culture & entitlement issues to cease at Texas, we just didn't expect it to start with BMD's that hire Patterson. Neither did they.

I like Charlie Strong. However, the BMD's thought they set Patterson up to hit a grand slam and they feel like he bunted when the bases were loaded.

I know for a fact that there are some BMD's that are in favor of the hiring Charlie Strong. I have been told that having a black coach to rival Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin on the recruiting trail was a big topic of discussion for some.

Personally I'm intrigued by this hire. Strong was not my first, second or even third choice but, as long as Strong takes advantage of the salaries Texas will offer for the assistants on his staff and he brings in some heavy hitters on the recruiting trail, I don't see why Strong and Texas will not be successful.

See, this is my issue. You say it was BMD's that hired Patterson. I hope to God it wasn't. Because, if it was, we are set up, again, to have another Mack Brown/Deloss Dodds culture. Besides, my understanding was that a search committee recommended a few candidates and the Patterson interview "blew them away". They sent their recommendations to Powers, who, in turn, submitted them to the BOR who approved them. So, in fact, Powell hired Patterson, not BMD's

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[Manzana Blanca]

You have not got the slightest clue what you are talking about. The "BMDs" are not a monolith. A large group of them had the courage and determination to finally stand up and insist on long overdue changes in the UT head coach and AD. Were it not for them, UT would be still limping along in the pathetic mediocrity of MBTF. They are worthy of gratitude from every true UT fan. They trusted Patterson to do a thorough search and use their and UT's resources to hire the best available head coach for UT. They are EXACTLY right to be disappointed that Patterson passed on much better alternatives than Charlie Strong. These people are all successful professionals and they clearly they misjudged Patterson's temperament, competence and professionalism. Patterson proved himself to be unworthy of their respect and confidence. That is the reality no matter how much you want to rant to the contrary.

Darrell and N:

Iam willing to give Smart a chance(what choice do I have) ,and I do agree that Patterson should not be a lap dog to the BMD's. However, Texas First is correct when he says that we should be grateful to the BMD's for pushing For Dodd's early retirement and Mack's exit--- without them these last two things would not have been done this year.

I agree that this hire will be totally Pattersons hire---- and that he theoretically will sink or swim with this hire. The problem with this theory is that given our history, AD employees at Texas have NOT often been held accountable....there is nothing in our recent past to assume that would change with Patterson if it ever came the time to replace him....... It seems that we are far too concerned with image--- and how we are perceived . So by dragging our feet on Dodd's and Brown departure( for fear of appearing that all we care about is winning and not academics) we in fact worsen the problem. It just seems that we are not really willing to commit to excellence in our football program I mean what good is having all this money.... and this begs another question...what are we doing with it? We have very good facilities ,but are they top 3-4 in the country? The two coaches in the NAtional Championship game are both making less than Strong will make. But I will get behind Strong and hope he succeeds because the alternative is not something I want to relive.

 

[TruthSpeaks28]

That's not what was posted.

I think I put the word "seem" in the wrong spot.

 

[rbw67]

1st---Sumlin has some cred in the area---Strong does not.

2nd---Do you consider Hurtt a legal "heavy hitter" or a questionable one?

 

[SlickStreet]

Two different groups of people saying two different things.
One group saying he is bringing his staff. The other says he will hire new guys minus a few select ones. What are you hearing?

not McPhaul, but it seems he'll be bringing a good amount of them, but not all.

 

[NLeininger]

You have not got the slightest clue what you are talking about. The "BMDs" are not a monolith. A large group of them had the courage and determination to finally stand up and insist on long overdue changes in the UT head coach and AD. Were it not for them, UT would be still limping along in the pathetic mediocrity of MBTF. They are worthy of gratitude from every true UT fan. They trusted Patterson to do a thorough search and use their and UT's resources to hire the best available head coach for UT. They are EXACTLY right to be disappointed that Patterson passed on much better alternatives than Charlie Strong. These people are all successful professionals and they clearly they misjudged Patterson's temperament, competence and professionalism. Patterson proved himself to be unworthy of their respect and confidence. That is the reality no matter how much you want to rant to the contrary.

Where were they 4 years ago when it was obvious Texas was not getting a good ROI in the AD? That it took them 4 years to get out of their own way is not to be congratulated. I agree that the BMD's deserve a certain amount of respect for being BMD's, but that respect stops when the assert their will on the AD. It's not their job to micromanage the AD at Texas. Plus based on what I've seen of Hicks and McCombs sports related decisions, I don't want them anywhere close to having a place at the table when it comes to making big decisions.

Not too mention McCombs continually putting his foot his mouth the last month and Jamail's threat of a law suit.

 

[SlickStreet]

"I spoke with a Louisville source moments ago and he said, "If you don't eat bricks for breakfast, you won't last long with Charlie Strong. The first thing he's going to do is find out who is tough and who isn't. The guys that aren't tough won't be around long."
This alone is all I need to hear to be sold on Charlie Strong.

it's certainly a great starting point

 

[Clan Fraser]

Take a look at the Louisville roster (link below). Curious what the ratio of Texas-to-OOS players will be, especially Florida kids. Exciting times ahead...

Louisville Roster

 

[CoachBobbyFinstock]

Talks of Strong possibly bringing Wickline from OSU and Herman from tOSU to the staff are home runs.

 

[Darrell McPhaul]

See, this is my issue. You say it was BMD's that hired Saban. I hope to God it wasn't. Because, if it was, we are set up, again, to have another Mack Brown/Deloss Dodds culture. Besides, my understanding was that a search committee recommended a few candidates and the Patterson interview "blew them away". They sent their recommendations to Powers, who, in turn, submitted them to the BOR who approved them. So, in fact, Powell hired Patterson, not BMD's.

That is not my understanding.

 

[xeno]

Count me as becoming increasingly concerned about the Patterson hire. Luck should have been the choice in retrospect. No confidence he can walk and chew gum concurrently.

 

[steveh9801]

"I spoke with a Louisville source moments ago and he said, "If you don't eat bricks for breakfast, you won't last long with Charlie Strong. The first thing he's going to do is find out who is tough and who isn't. The guys that aren't tough won't be around long."
This alone is all I need to hear to be sold on Charlie Strong.

This is a very important statement. The country club days are over, no more statements about how soft the program is. No more days of kids wanting to be a member of the Texas Longhorn football team but not putting the work in to make an impact on the field. This is not a call out to any of the kids on the team and I hope it's not taken that way. It seems like for years we had a group of players that would bust ass and try to get better and then you had another group that were just happy and content to be called members of the football team and the advantages that come with that.

 

[DBU]

McPhaul, if the BMDs think we bunted with the bases loaded they need to stay far away from the program and you should probably find some more credible people to speak with. Strong might not be a grand slam but he's probably a bases clearing single at worst which should be exciting for anyone passionate about Texas football. The problem isn't Strong, it's the unrealistic expectations that many people allowed themselves to become fooled by. One of the most coveted and rising college football coaches out there and he's ours now, I'm fired up. Hook em.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I right there with you McPhaul. I admittedly was underwhelmed when I learned it was going to be CS, but now I'm on board. If he can get Wickline, Herman, and some other quality assistants on his staff then my excitement will build.