Recruiting Updates

[ut1978]

It is legal and not morally wrong folks. You can continue to harp on this, but it is a lot more common than you think. In fact, I was informed by a Longhorn buddy of mine that talks to Duke Thomas and Marcus Johnson and he said they only had one class on campus during the fall. Also, your boy Strong sure didn't have any problems with Bridgewater doing it this last fall, nor did Clemson with Tajh Boyd. I don't have any qualms about doing it and ya'll shouldn't either. I loaded up on online classes one semester when I was in college so that I could work a more open schedule and save money on gas (drove 30 miles to class).

Important question(s): if a course is being taught on campus but also as an online course, would the person doing it online have to take the SAME tests/exams, turn in (by email, I suppose, and ON TIME) the same homework assignments and (most importantly), finish the class in one semester (like its on-campus counterpart)?? If the answer to all these questions is YES, there would (still) be no guarantee that the athlete actually took the online class, did the homework, quizzes, exams, etc HIMSELF (i.e. there wasn't a ringer doing all this for him).

 

[Agmaniacmike]

There is a valid argument as to the academic value of online courses (they are meant for ease) but this just doesn't equate as to the question of whether one is wrong for taking them.This statement sums up my views on online classes as well: "You miss out on the dialogue and interaction with teachers, GA's, classmates, etc. You're definitely not taking advantage of the whole experience." However, these classes are available, and to label someone as immoral and dismiss them on an academic level isn't right and frankly reeks of arrogance.

 

[Agmaniacmike]

Sorry to hijack the thread, if anybody wants to continue discussion on the topic start a new thread and I'll respond later tonight.

 

[Juan]

Would it be moral for a student to do the same? As long as it fits the necessary requirements for graduation then yes, it is moral. These are taken on a semester-by-semester basis from my understanding and is most often used when the student-athlete has multiple choices for which courses to take. ......

You remind me of one of the few aggie athletes who was honest about the academic rigor there for players.

Former Texas A&M star Antoine Wright ..... [told] Bob Costas on .... HBO's "Costas Now" that he received a better education in high school than in college.
"Once I got to college, I kind of let my hair down a little bit," Wright says. "I don't have to write term papers any more — I just have to get a grade now and play basketball."

Costas: "Tell me what it was like in these agriculture classes [at A&M]."

Wright: "In certain classes you see, you know, a quarterback, me, a running back, and then a farmer. So, it definitely was a little bizarre. But, we're all in poultry science for a reason. We're in this class because we need to get this grade. We're not really trying to learn about chickens."

Costas: "You took one course in floral design. What was that like?"

Wright: "It's not as easy as it sounds, to be honest with you. But they put me in there with a couple of athletes. You're gonna ask me a question about floral design — I can't answer it because I needed a grade."

Do you know if the animal husbandry and floral design classes are already offered online?

Seems like it would be tough to learn how to determine the gender of a baby chick without actually touching it, but what do I know?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

There is a valid argument as to the academic value of online courses (they are meant for ease) but this just doesn't equate as to the question of whether one is wrong for taking them.This statement sums up my views on online classes as well: "You miss out on the dialogue and interaction with teachers, GA's, classmates, etc. You're definitely not taking advantage of the whole experience." However, these classes are available, and to label someone as immoral and dismiss them on an academic level isn't right and frankly reeks of arrogance.

The only moral question for me is whether or not the student in question is actually completing the work himself. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with it from a moral perspective. Academically, that's another argument.

Arrogance? HornSports is a website & forum for Texas-Exes, UT students, and Longhorns fans ("t-shirt fan" in aggy parlance). Maybe you've heard that we're a little prideful? Lucky for the aggies y'all don't have to deal with us any longer.

And yet.....here you are.

 

[utisdabomb12]

"DB John Bonney told a #UT commit this weekend that he plans on sticking with the #Longhorns"

Per Jason Suchomel

 

[Brasky]

I know the Aggie Honor code is fake but this is just such a stupid thing to debate. If Texas were doing it i'd acknowledge that it was a tactic to allow the athlete to coast by (or outright cheat). You not admitting that that is what's intended is the only arrogant thing i see about this argument. It's very SEC and very un-honor code of you to pretend that it is something it isn't.

 

[DukeHorn]

"Reeks of arrogance"

Seriously? What's the point of attending a great university if you're going to be taking on-line classes? That reeks of stupidity. I didn't know it was arrogant to actually care about your education, but that's the typical jab at "elitist" schools.

Crap like this is what UNC is trying to cover up (quite poorly).

 

[PropositionJoe]

How did online classes become the boogieman here?

They are and have been present at every school in the country. They'll continue to be useful for athletes due to the need for flexibility in schedule.

It's nether a recruiting advantage nor disadvantage to have/not have them available.

 

[Brasky]

How did online classes become the boogieman here?
They are and have been present at every school in the country. They'll continue to be useful for athletes due to the need for flexibility in schedule.

It's nether a recruiting advantage nor disadvantage to have/not have them available.

What a joke. Why not just be honest about this. A&M is using online classes to fast track kids with minimal to zero supervision and little to no effort. You guys are embarrassing yourselves by arguing otherwise. Take that crap to an Aggie board because they'll eat it up. All of a sudden you guys are huge proponents of online classes? It's a tactic and you'd serve yourself and your honor code well by admitting it.

 

[PropositionJoe]

Do you have any proof to back the assertion that A&M is selling an easier academic experience than the one available at UT?

If so id love to hear it.

 

[utisdabomb12]

Lorenzo Joe Tweet, "Can't wait to sign to The University of Texas on Wednesday! #HOOKEM"

 

[Sejjr]

I blame Al Gore for all of this.

 

[Juan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Can't wait to sign to The University of Texas on Wednesday! <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HOOKEM&src=hash">#HOOKEM</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SelfieSunday&src=hash">#SelfieSunday</a> <a href="http://t.co/yzwX293gnT">http://t.co/yzwX293gnT</a></p>— Lorenzo Joe (@LoJoe12) <a href="https://twitter.com/LoJoe12/statuses/430093373102649344">February 2, 2014</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bigger immediate concern for Texas is holding onto the Teuhema bros after their surprise visit to LSU this weekend.</p>— Wescott Eberts (@SBN_Wescott) <a href="

https://twitter.com/SBN_Wescott/statuses/430095356093669376">February 2, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Juan]

Do you have any proof to back the assertion that A&M is selling an easier academic experience than the one available at UT?
If so id love to hear it.

Are you guys saying Antoine Wright is a liar?

Former Texas A&M star Antoine Wright ..... [told] Bob Costas on .... HBO's "Costas Now" that he received a better education in high school than in college.
"Once I got to college, I kind of let my hair down a little bit," Wright says. "I don't have to write term papers any more — I just have to get a grade now and play basketball."

Costas: "Tell me what it was like in these agriculture classes [at A&M]."

Wright: "In certain classes you see, you know, a quarterback, me, a running back, and then a farmer. So, it definitely was a little bizarre. But, we're all in poultry science for a reason. We're in this class because we need to get this grade. We're not really trying to learn about chickens."

Costas: "You took one course in floral design. What was that like?"

Wright: "It's not as easy as it sounds, to be honest with you. But they put me in there with a couple of athletes. You're gonna ask me a question about floral design — I can't answer it because I needed a grade."

 

[PropositionJoe]

LSU was originally offering a grey shirt to the older teuhema brother.

That could be a major factor that works on Texas's behalf.

 

[utisdabomb12]

LSU boards think the Teuhema brothers are jumping ship. Granted, that might be good news. TCU boards were saying Joe was jumping ship and Baylor boards were saying Bonney was jumping ship. The Teuhema brothers could be decommitting but until I hear from someone other then the LSU side, I'm not going to say they are for sure gone. Kids are excited wherever they visit, and that's the problem with recruiting services. They often over analyze excitement and what they say on a visit.

 

[LonghornDog]

I hope Teuhuma brothers are still committed to Texas.

 

[Juan]

This tweet is from one of Arrion Springs' teammates--

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Talking to the coaches yesterday, I think UT will have another one real soon <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HookEm&src=hash">#HookEm</a> <a href="http://t.co/GOF4ZE0Jmr">pic.twitter.com/GOF4ZE0Jmr</a></p>— Rashad La'Fond (@R_LaFond22) <a href="

https://twitter.com/R_LaFond22/statuses/430031200447508480">February 2, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Juan]

I hope Teuhuma brothers are still committed to Texas.

Apparently Maea's gf goes to LSU