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[DMAC]

I am not black therefore I do know first hand that is why I rely on the numbers.  You still have not given me a valid reason for the twice as many unarmed whites dying to police than blacks.  Instead you opt for matrix analogies and personal jabs at my opinions.  If you can give me numbers that show differently then maybe you can change my mind.

 

[DMAC]

Your numbers may say one thing these numbers suggest that they are harassed more.

Staggering Racial Bias: Marijuana use is roughly equal among Blacks and whites, yet Blacks are 3.73 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession.

https://www.aclu.org/report/report-war-marijuana-black-and-white?redirect=criminal-law-reform/war-marijuana-black-and-white

Those are good numbers.  I will look into that.  Forgive me but I dont trust anything the ACLU publishes.  If true though thats good information!  Thank you

 

[primal defense]

No need to get angry my man.  We are just discussing the issues. 

I never said it was GOSPEL.  I am not black and can only go by what black people I trust say to me in confidence.  Maybe they are hiding some inner dark oppression from me.  I dont know.  I dont believe everything I hear but these have been friends of mine for a long time and we have shared many experiences together.  So I trust them.  One of them is a friend who is head of security for a casino in Mississippi.  He had to leave work because of the bashing he received when he mentioned to a group of workers the very thing he said to me.  He said he was scared he was about to get mobbed by coworkers.  I dont believe he would make this up.  I just told him to be safe and be careful.  I love him, hes like my brother.

So your response is more black people are harassed by police?  The number do not fit the racism narrative otherwise there would be more blacks killed than whites.  Period.  Numbers can be misleading but if racism is the true reason behind this than the numbers would be reversed.  As I mentioned earlier the number tend to suggest brutality as an overall issue but they do not back up the racist narrative

More numbers


Annual Stop-and-Frisk Numbers:


An analysis by the NYCLU revealed that innocent New Yorkers have been subjected to police stops and street interrogations more than 5 million times since 2002, and that Black and Latinx communities continue to be the overwhelming target of these tactics. At the height of stop-and-frisk in 2011 under the Bloomberg administration, over 685,000 people were stopped. Nearly 9 out of 10 stopped-and-frisked New Yorkers have been completely innocent

https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data

 

[hornsups]

I am not black therefore I do know first hand that is why I rely on the numbers.  You still have not given me a valid reason for the twice as many unarmed whites dying to police than blacks.  Instead you opt for matrix analogies and personal jabs at my opinions.  If you can give me numbers that show differently then maybe you can change my mind.

https://twitter.com/marlene/status/1271999449670332416?s=21

 

[DMAC]

https://twitter.com/marlene/status/1271999449670332416?s=21

Again as I mentioned earlier, this BLM videos premise is built on the overall population ratio.  The numbers look bad from that aspect.  No doubt.  The problem with that is blacks make up 13% of the overall population in the US and White make up 60% yet black account for 42% of all crime.  He is taking an overall ratio based on total population.  The police do not get into potential fatal shooting with everyone in the US.  Based on the percentage of police encounters that were against each race was basically EQUAL yet twice as many unarmed whites died than blacks. That is the crime population which have direct encounters with police.

If anything the numbers show either more blacks endure greater economic hardships and therefore result in a much higher percentage of crime than the ratio of whites or blacks are stereotyped by police and are more likely to have police encounters. 

Either way this video does not show in the killing of unarmed fatal shootings of each race based on CRIME population. 

Total population does not apply unless police are involved in potential shootings with the entire US population

You can make the argument though a disproportionate number of blacks have encounters with the police than whites do based on the US population aspect.  The reasons could be numerous.  Blacks make up 13 of the US population but account for 42% of all crime.  Could be economic hardships, racist harassing police stereotyping (I experienced this once as I mentioned but I am not black), etc.  The real question is why?  Just my opinion but it is probably both. 

 

[java]

You were in sociology. So they had to teach you the definition of prejudice. Did they teach the difference between that and say bigotry. Or that and say racism. Yes people, all people, can have some type of prejudice. Just like all people can hate. I hate rapists. That’s not hate based on their skin tone. It’s hate based on them being a rapist. So maybe what’s the base of the prejudice? Is it for a whole race? For a subsect? To try to deal with this with a both sides defense is a bad look. 

No, they didn’t have to teach me the definition of prejudice or bigotry.  There you go making unfounded inflammatory assumptions, again.  It appears that when you reverted to polite discussion, it was an anomaly.  

I can be biting and sarcastic, as well, but, this discussion and topic deserves better.

Fellows, please carry on, I have many, many things to do before school starts.

Good Luck!

As always, Hook ‘em Horns!  

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Again as an alum, season ticket holder, and Longhorn Foundation donor I 100% support the players.

 

[hornsups]

Again as I mentioned earlier, this BLM videos premise is built on the overall population ratio.  The numbers look bad from that aspect.  No doubt.  The problem with that is blacks make up 13% of the overall population in the US and White make up 60%.  He taking an overall ratio based on total population.  the police do not get into fatal shooting with everyone.  Based on the percentage of police encounters that were against each race was basically the same yet twice as many unarmed whites died than blacks. 

If anything the numbers show either more blacks endure greater economic hardships and therefore result in a much higher percentage of crime than the ratio of whites.  OR blacks are stereotyped by police and are more likely to have police encounters. 

Either way this does not show in the killing of unarmed fatal shootings of each race based on CRIME population. 

Total population does not apply unless police go around shooting everyone in the US. 

You can make the argument though a disproportionate number of blacks have encounters with the police than whites do based on the US population aspect.  The reasons could be numerous.  Blacks make up 13 of the US population but account for 42% of all crime.  Could be economic hardships, racist harassing police stereotyping (I experienced this once as I mentioned but I am not black), etc.  The real question is why?  Just my opinion but it is probably both. 

The video literally says all these equal. You’re reaching man. You’re trying to fit your reasoning into well it’s about crime. That’s a fallacy man. It’s a issue based on the population. What crime did Breonna Taylor commit? What about Tamir Rice?? They were killed. They didn’t commit a crime. If you want to keep going with this logic you’re using, that’s fine. I will stop pointing out the bias. I gotta stop with this conversation. You’re not gonna listen to anything. 

 

[hornsups]

No, they didn’t have to teach me the definition of prejudice or bigotry.  There you go making unfounded inflammatory assumptions, again.  It appears that when you reverted to polite discussion, it was an anomaly.  

I can be biting and sarcastic, as well, but, this discussion and topic deserves better.

Fellows, please carry on, I have many, many things to do before school starts.

Good Luck!

As always, Hook ‘em Horns!  

Hahahahaha so it’s an inflammatory assumption to think you learned definitions in a class?? And I don’t think I’ve made an unfolded inflammatory assumption about you before, sorry. The nerve to tell me this discussion deserves better. You’re right it does. It deserves more than someone trying to point out that even people who face prejudice, they too can be prejudice. Both sides huh? It deserves better than someone in one post trying to lessen the racism of Jefferson Davis & in another pretend to be the voice of reason. 
 

If people who have never walked in the shoes of a black person try to downplay or ignore what’s been said by so many, they will get sarcasm and bluntness. The time for tip toeing and hand holding is over. I’m not gonna bite my tongue. If you don’t like it, you’re free to not respond to me. But if you come at me with some bull, I’m gonna set it straight. 

 

[DMAC]

The video literally says all these equal. You’re reaching man. You’re trying to fit your reasoning into well it’s about crime. That’s a fallacy man. It’s a issue based on the population. What crime did Breonna Taylor commit? What about Tamir Rice?? They were killed. They didn’t commit a crime. If you want to keep going with this logic you’re using, that’s fine. I will stop pointing out the bias. I gotta stop with this conversation. You’re not gonna listen to anything. 

Yea I agree im done.  You either dont want to see the facts based on FBI Uniform Crime reports.  The numbers tell the truth.  Crimes committed by blacks vs the overall black population is where the problem is.  its 5:1.  Your argument based on total population to account for why 2x as unarmed whites die to police than blacks even though the encounters were basically the same just doesnt make any sense at all.

Oh well good discussion nonetheless.  Have a good day!

 

[java]

hornsup, I was not coming after anyone. It was simply food for thought. 

Teachers are always told to reflect on a day when things don’t go right. Think about what went well, what didn’t go well, and what the teacher can do to improve if the same thing happens again.  

In a nutshell, that is what I was doing. It was a philosophical post. I should know better. 

As always,

Hook ‘em!
 

 

[hornsups]

Players are realizing they matter. Good for Chubba. Guarantee Gundy says something. You cannot expect to coach these African American players. Tell them you love them so that they give their all for you. And then you spite on people who look like them. Times are a changing. 

 

[Bear19]

Educate me. What is wrong with Gundy’s T-shirt?

 

[hornsups]

Educate me. What is wrong with Gundy’s T-shirt?

OAN is a far right news organization that perpetuates falsehoods. And they are no friend to reporting the issues going on with police bias & racism. So Chubba decided he didn’t agree with the shirt and what it represents. Good for him. 

 

[primal defense]

Educate me. What is wrong with Gundy’s T-shirt?

They make Fox news look like flaming liberals.

 

[drgilbert]

So one T shirt means more to him than all the years he’s known him?

 

[hornsups]

So one T shirt means more to him than all the years he’s known him?

Depending on the shirt and what it means, yeah makes sense to me. I don’t care if I knew a person for 15 yrs, let me see you wearing some racists, homophobic, etc. We gonna have to talk and if it’s not addressed, we are done. I applaud his stance. If something someone’s wearing offends you, use what power you have to address it. 

 

[drgilbert]

Depending on the shirt and what it means, yeah makes sense to me. I don’t care if I knew a person for 15 yrs, let me see you wearing some racists, homophobic, etc. We gonna have to talk and if it’s not addressed, we are done. I applaud his stance. If something someone’s wearing offends you, use what power you have to address it. 

I agree with you. Does OAN openly support the KKK or white nationalist?  I understand all news media has a bias and an agenda, so I’m not asking if they kiss Trump’s ass. Do they openly support racism?

 

[primal defense]

I agree with you. Does OAN openly support the KKK or white nationalist?  I understand all news media has a bias and an agenda, so I’m not asking if they kiss Trump’s ass. Do they openly support racism?

Some of their work.


Coronavirus outbreak conspiracy theories


Further information: Misinformation related to the COVID-19 pandemic
In March 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, the OANN chief White House correspondent Chanel Rion promoted a conspiracy theory that the virus originated in a North Carolina lab, citing information from a "citizen investigator and a monitored source amongst a certain set of the DC intelligence community" who was actually a Twitter conspiracy theorist. As she cited this individual during a televised report from the White House grounds, an image was displayed of actor Keir Dullea in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey. She also asserted that Dr. Anthony Fauci, who was the White House's leading expert on infectious diseases, had funded the creation of the coronavirus.[72][73] Rion later claimed without evidence that other mainstream media outlets were parroting Communist Party of China propaganda.[74] During a press conference with Trump, she asked him whether it was "racist" to use the term "Chinese food" and continued:


major left-wing news media—even in this room—have teamed up with Chinese Communist Party narratives and they’re claiming you’re racist for making these claims about 'Chinese virus.' Is it alarming that major media players, just to oppose you, are consistently siding with foreign state propaganda, Islamic radicals and Latin gangs and cartels? And they work right here at the White House with direct access to you and your team?[72][75][76]



Rion previously worked as a political cartoonist, and had among other things promoted murder of Seth Rich conspiracy theories and written an anti-feminist children's book.[72][77] She without evidence claimed that former FBI lawyer Lisa Page and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe were involved in an affair.[78] OANN later retracted the story.[78]

In April 2020, Rion was expelled from the White House Correspondents Association and her formal seat was removed for flagrantly violating newly implemented social distancing rules in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room.[3] Despite this, Rion has boasted she was personally invited to attend by press secretary Stephanie Grisham a day after the ban.[79]

During May 2020, Kristian Rouz created a package for OAN in which he claimed the existence of “mounting evidence of a globalist conspiracy” involving the Clintons, Soros, Bill Gates, Dr. Anthony Fauci, and the Chinese government. No evidence exists for any of this.[80] (He also compiled the wholly fabricated story OANN ran in 2017 alleging that Hillary Clinton's political action committee secretly gave $800,000 to Antifa.)[11][80]


Killing of George Floyd protests


Main article: George Floyd protests
In June 2020, during protests against racism and police brutality in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, OANN reporter Jack Posobiec falsely claimed that there were pipe bombs planted at the Korean War Memorial in Washington D.C., and that "federal assets [were] in pursuit". There were no pipe bombs, nor is there any evidence that any "federal assets" pursued it.[81]


Buffalo police shoving incident


Main article: Buffalo police shoving incident
That same month, OANN claimed without evidence that an elderly protester who had been brutally injured by police "was attempting to capture the radio communications signature of Buffalo police officers."[61] The OANN, again without evidence, linked the man to the Antifa movement. President Trump later posted a tweet alleging the protester "could be an ANTIFA provocateur", referencing OANN's unfounded conspiracy theory.[55][82][83]

The journalist behind OANN's story was Kristian Rouz.[60] Rouz himself did not provide any evidence, only referring to a report by The Conservative Treehouse, a right-wing blog,[84] which describes itself as a "Rag Tag Bunch of Conservative Misfits".[61]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network

 

[primal defense]

Hahahahaha so it’s an inflammatory assumption to think you learned definitions in a class?? And I don’t think I’ve made an unfolded inflammatory assumption about you before, sorry. The nerve to tell me this discussion deserves better. You’re right it does. It deserves more than someone trying to point out that even people who face prejudice, they too can be prejudice. Both sides huh? It deserves better than someone in one post trying to lessen the racism of Jefferson Davis & in another pretend to be the voice of reason. 
 

If people who have never walked in the shoes of a black person try to downplay or ignore what’s been said by so many, they will get sarcasm and bluntness. The time for tip toeing and hand holding is over. I’m not gonna bite my tongue. If you don’t like it, you’re free to not respond to me. But if you come at me with some bull, I’m gonna set it straight. 

LOL! You ask her a question and that's inflammatory! Your lucky, I got banned from her answering my questions of some of the comments she said yesterday.

It's smart. You can make any comment you want and if someone questions it then they're the problem. She's just having a reasonable conversation. She's now question MBHornfans on calling out others because she disagrees with him.

I just glad I taught the teacher what Black Lives Matters means otherwise she would be telling her students to remember that all  lives matter.