Mack furor....

[PropositionJoe]

i'm kind of surprised as to the amount of antipathy towards mack right now.

and i dont really see anything wrong with his statements, nor do i think they would have led to someone decommitting who wouldnt have done so anyways.

 

[DocHorn]

Mack Brown is a narcissitic person. He did a lot of good things at Texas but fell asleep at the wheel his last four years.

The way he left , kciking and screaming like a petulant child as well as not honoring his word to resign if he didnt win the conference, are signs of some of his character flaws.

Mack is complex, like all of us, with his strengths and weaknesses. He did a lot of good, then a lot of bad.

He no longer had any claim to continue to be the HC at UT.

I for one am glad he is gone and hopefully time will heal the wounds with the fan base.

 

[jdsu]

not sure how that changes. he still told kids to look around. how about leaving it at tx is a fine school and a good place to play football and get an education. wait and see who the next coach is. the facts have not changed. neither have the disaster of a weekend with the banquet all about brown and deloss instead of the players etc. terrible atmosphere to bring recruits in for an official, sally mad etc. the facts are out there.

 

[Juan]

PropositionJoei'm kind of surprised as to the amount of antipathy towards mack right now.

and i dont really see anything wrong with his statements, nor do i think they would have led to someone decommitting who wouldnt have done so anyways.

You can see from Roberson's comment that - no matter the exact verbiage Mack Brown used (as has been debated quite a bit here and elsewhere) - the kids interpreted those words to mean Mack was telling them to look around. Bonney is the one who said it directly to the media. But, as we see in this interview, all the kids had discussed it. If I processed the video comments correctly, Roberson actually heard it secondhand from the Teuhemas. Roberson was having none of it, but the Teuhemas did "look around" and then left. So did some others.

OK, so, two things--

First, even though Brown was stepping down as coach, he was still on the payroll. He did not quit and thus end his contract. He was and is still making something like $100,000 PER WEEK from Texas (+ PERKS). I would thus argue that he had a contractual, ethical, fiduciary and even legal duty to continue to represent the best interests of the University, its Athletic Department and the team. And an argument can be fashioned that he failed to do so, in this instance.

Second, regardless of the contract/moneys/duties, common sense tells you that he should not have advised the recruits to visit other schools without ever having spoken to the new coach face-to-face. Why is this common sense? Because it was simply the right thing to do. It was also "the classy thing" to do and we all know Mack Brown always wanted to be thought of in these terms. What he should have told them was give the new coach a chance to speak directly to each one of them first before doing anything else. In the past, Brown was always steadfast in his conviction that commitments were not to a particular coach but to the school. By changing that idea in that last moment -- indeed in the moment of truth as it were -- it shows he never really meant it. That it was just a gimmick or sales pitch all along.

So, these are two of the reasons for the antipathy. There are more.

 

[JimR]

he should have said nothing beyond "stick with Texas."

 

[pringlelake]

you make a good point. Sometimes just a few words are better.

 

[JimR]

you make a good point. Sometimes just a few words are better.

he made it about him, which is no surprise to me.

 

[jc77]

Why don't we just let this go instead of constantly bring negative press on ourselves.

 

[Longhorns96]

Yeah, it sure was pitiful and sorry to have the second most winning coach in our schools history, and to be consistently in the hunt for a NC most of the years he was here Consistently? Seriously? We played for 2, and because we couldn't beat ou, we were never really that close. Ok, I will give you 2001, when we could've played for it, but it sucks when 2 of your top offensive players take each other out of the game.. Of course for nearly 25 years before Mack came we didn't come close to even sniffing a NC, let alone winning one I think Coach Akers will argue with you, along with all of the players on the 1977 and 1983 teams. We were undefeated in 1977 and lost to Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl to lose out on our 4th title. In 1983, we were undefeated yet again, and lost 10-9 to Georgia, which still stings to this day.but fans that never knew anything but the good times under Mack, and those others that have a poor memory, would not know any of that. Speaking of our old coaches, if you look at their time on the 40 Acres, as soon our coaches (McWilliams not included) had THEIR FIRST NON-WINNING SEASON, they were gone. Royal never had a losing season, but went 5-5-1 in his last season. Akers had ONE losing season, went 5-6, and was gone the next. Mackovic had one losing season, and was gone the next. Mack had one losing season, and weaseled his way into 3 more seasons, because we all thought he could "fix it". Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me Fool me three times, your ass shoulda been fired three years ago. I won't even get started with his career losses against our biggest rival. Even when Mack thought he could "fix it", he still lost by 38 (2011) and 42 (2012) points. Fix it, my ass.
It was time for Mack to go but I sure as hell am not going to try to rewrite history or degrade any of the fine things that he did for us during his tenure.

Let's all remember how we felt about Mack before VY came on campus. He could get us close to the promise land, but could never deliver. Mack's butt was on the hot seat back then, and in came Mr. InVINCEable, to save his job. I am very grateful for what he did, but the man never should've been allowed to stick around for as long as he did.

 

[86MEHorn]

You can get former DB Rod Baber's take. Fast forward to about the 15 min point.

http://www.am1300thezone.com/media/podcast-longhorn-blitz-Big12football/horns247coms-longhorn-blitz-2414-24280878/

 

[Embrey]

Why don't we just let this go instead of constantly bring negative press on ourselves.

There are some who want the record to be set straight before the chapter is closed. There are varying interpretations of Mack Brown's tenure and some of his actions. Those who fully support the former coach are entitled to their opinions as are those who were never enamored with him. Suffice it to say that any time a loyal supporter runs out a media story to support him there will be those to push back to stop the mythification of his time here. He was a fine coach. He is no legend.

When a story comes out about him saving a puppy or performing CPR on someone I will give him respect.

 

[bwub60]

For those of you who do not understand a soft close thats exactly what Mack did here. Recruits are worried about where they might stand with an unknown coach. They dont need advice to look around when they already have other schools breathing down their necks. What Mack did was cause doubt at the worst possible time. While he was still getting paid by Texas. He made it sound like he was looking out for them and said "hey Texas is great" BUT if you came to play for me then you should move on. He knew what he was doing. He manipulates people for a living