Hermann needs to go

[tejasrulz]

1 hour ago, primal defense said:

He would be an upgrade, that's for sure

 

[Soldierhorn]

52 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Did UM "cover up" Zach Smith's transgressions at tOSU or did he just choose not to get involved?

This question is the thin red line that good coaches toe up to. Most good coaches simply want to coach and dont want to get caught up in the messiness of life whether it's the players, the assist coaches, boosters, on and on. Urban Meyer looks to be that kind of coach.  DKR admitted later that he probably should have been more aware that happened around him.  Joe Paterno? did he know or should have known what was going on in the showers?  it looked like Jim Tressel wasnt 100% forthright in his reporting of Terrelle Pryor's activities, which seem rather innocuous in today's context. Art Briles was fired because he should have known what his players were doing above and beyond legal requirements (whether he actually knew is the point of contention).  And, if we think Mack Brown ran a 100% clean program, then we delude ourselves. 

I think people can make an argument that some coaches are singularly focused on football and head coaching and block out whatever interferes with that tunnel vision.  I think that coaches have broader responsibilities but I can see that perspective. And, in spite of the fact that most of the fan base insists on calling these players "kids" rather than the young adults they are and responsible for their own actions is indicative of the problem. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

This question is the thin red line that good coaches toe up to. Most good coaches simply want to coach and dont want to get caught up in the messiness of life whether it's the players, the assist coaches, boosters, on and on. Urban Meyer looks to be that kind of coach.  DKR admitted later that he probably should have been more aware that happened around him.  Joe Paterno? did he know or should have known what was going on in the showers?  it looked like Jim Tressel wasnt 100% forthright in his reporting of Terrelle Pryor's activities, which seem rather innocuous in today's context. Art Briles was fired because he should have known what his players were doing above and beyond legal requirements.  And, if we think Mack Brown ran a 100% clean program, then we delude ourselves. 

I think people can make an argument that some coaches are singularly focused on football and head coaching and block out whatever interferes with that tunnel vision.  I think that coaches have broader responsibilities but I can see that perspective. And, in spite of the fact that most of the fan base insists on calling these players "kids" rather than the young adults they are and responsible for their own actions is indicative of the problem. 

Good stuff

I think a coach like UM and DKR is exactly what we need right now after WTH. ?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

What about this guy?

 

[NEOkHorn]

I like Campbell a lot as a coach but wonder about his ability to handle the UT atmosphere and how he would recruit. He is able to coach at ISU without a lot of the off field issues that seem to be so much stronger at a place like Texas. Not an environment that every coach can handle. 

He would definitely seem to be an upgrade in game prep and in game coaching to what has been here for the past decade.

 

[Soldierhorn]

I expect Campbell to end up at a Big10 type school and possibly Nebraska or Michigan. 

 

[Ntx dog]

10 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

What about this guy?

Doing some early morning channel surfing and ran into a college football highlight show. Commentators stated Iowa State " escaped" from Austin from the " upset" minded Longhorns. Never thought I'd hear that.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

I expect Campbell to end up at a Big10 type school and possibly Nebraska or Michigan. 

Both of these rust-belt bluebloods have the same problem. Not enough in-state talent to sustain their pedigrees. I'm not sure any coach can turn them around if legacies, Frost and Harbaugh can't do it.

 

[83Dee]

I expect Campbell to end up at a Big10 type school and possibly Nebraska or Michigan. 

Campbell strikes me as a coach tailor made for a mid-major  (I don’t know why so don’t ask me to defend?) 

After Meyer, the idea of Venables is growing on me.  Think of the tutelage:

Played for Bill Snyder.  DC for Bob Stoops.  DC for Dabo Swinney   

 

[Baron]

I expect Campbell to end up at a Big10 type school and possibly Nebraska or Michigan. 

I think Frost gets another year at Nebraska.

 

[Soldierhorn]

Both of these rust-belt bluebloods have the same problem. Not enough in-state talent to sustain their pedigrees. I'm not sure any coach can turn them around if legacies, Frost and Harbaugh can't do it.

exactly, they may come to the realization that they need someone like Campbell or Klein that is experienced at making something out of nothing (or not much), which is the essence of a good coach.  

 

[Soldierhorn]

I think Frost gets another year at Nebraska.

yep, at least.  Not every program admin can or wants to shell out 20, 30, or 40 mil for a coaching change. 

 

[primal defense]

I expect Campbell to end up at a Big10 type school and possibly Nebraska or Michigan. 

He's one of the favorites for the Michigan job. No way he would take the Nebraska. I saw an article that he would leave Iowa State for Notre Dame or Ohio State.

 

[primal defense]

Campbell strikes me as a coach tailor made for a mid-major  (I don’t know why so don’t ask me to defend?) 

After Meyer, the idea of Venables is growing on me.  Think of the tutelage:

Played for Bill Snyder.  DC for Bob Stoops.  DC for Dabo Swinney   

No thanks to Venables. He's never been a HC. We would be going backwards. Going from Strong's four years as a head coach to Herman's two years at UH to Venables zero experience..

 

[Soldierhorn]

He's one of the favorites for the Michigan job. No way he would take the Nebraska. I saw an article that he would leave Iowa State for Notre Dame or Ohio State.

yeah, that could be the case. 

Some will argue that Nebraska would be a lateral move for Campbell (and it would regionally speaking & recruiting wise) but he could make 3-4 times the money at a Big10 school, even Nebraska, with the same or less limitations. 

 

[primal defense]

yeah, that could be the case. 

Some will argue that Nebraska would be a lateral move for Campbell (and it would regionally speaking & recruiting wise) but he could make 3-4 times the money at a Big10 school, even Nebraska, with the same or less limitations. 

He can do better than Nebraska.

 

[dillohorn]

Horns have sucked for a long time now. Time to stop sucking. Hire a real coach.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

yeah, that could be the case. 

Some will argue that Nebraska would be a lateral move for Campbell (and it would regionally speaking & recruiting wise) but he could make 3-4 times the money at a Big10 school, even Nebraska, with the same or less limitations. 

I'm not so sure Michigan is a step up from ISU these days

 

[primal defense]

With Tom Herman on the hot seat, what’s Texas’ next move?




https://www.yahoo.com/sports/with-tom-herman-on-the-hot-seat-whats-texas-next-move-051422870.html

 

[Soldierhorn]

I'm not so sure Michigan is a step up from ISU these days

You could be right.  I suspect that his decision will be harder after this year.  ISU hasnt won a conference title in over a 100 years. If they win a CC this year, Campbell might get a 50-100% pay raise.