Crossfire 2

[TheContractor]

If Saban says no thanks (and that seems likely once he uses Texas to leverage more money from Bammer), what is the next logical move? I'd love to see a defensive minded coach come in and hire a big-time OC. Tomlin is very intriguing. He has won Super Bowls and would bring discipline. How would a Tomlin/Chad Morris combo be and hire the DeSoto coach as the RBs coach? I don't know the DeSoto coach, but his halftime speech on Fox SW last week made me want to go play in the second half.

Personally, the next 2 guys I call are Briles and Strong, then maybe Shaw. Don't want Muschamp or Peterson or Patterson.

Tomlin, a good coach, has only coached in college 3 years and at places like Memphis(1yr) & ark st (2yrs). No college experience, a lot of risk there even though he has a SB ring. College is very different from NFL, both on and off the field.

 

[Fuddy]

If Saban says no thanks (and that seems likely once he uses Texas to leverage more money from Bammer), what is the next logical move? I'd love to see a defensive minded coach come in and hire a big-time OC. Tomlin is very intriguing. He has won Super Bowls and would bring discipline. How would a Tomlin/Chad Morris combo be and hire the DeSoto coach as the RBs coach? I don't know the DeSoto coach, but his halftime speech on Fox SW last week made me want to go play in the second half.

I think part of it is the timing of when Saban says no. If it's late in the game, some of the better candidates might be gone and we might reach for a candidate (remember, USC is looking for a coach and schools like Florida, aggy, Georgia, Louisville, Stanford might be looking for coaches for different reasons, especially if their coach goes to the NFL).

If Saban rebuffs us sooner we can probably get our pick of the litter. I think some of the NFL guys like Tomlin, Carrol and Harbaugh that are being thrown around aren't going to happen. Most likely we'd look at Briles, Strong, Muschamp, or Mora.

 

[Bevostuntdouble]

Winston was never coming here.
Complain about Luck, RGIII and JFF all you want, but this Winston thing is similar to how Robert Nkemdiche was complaining about how UT didn't recruit him, just wanted attention and a free trip. Yes we should have brought him in and wine and dined him, but he was never going to end up here.

You never know until you bring em in... Opportunity lost. Having never brought him in we'll never know what could have happened had we.

 

[TheContractor]

You never know until you bring em in... Opportunity lost. Having never brought him in we'll never know what could have happened had we.

Mack has always been the guy who is afraid of rejection so he never asks out a girl that might say no, especially with OOS recruits. Bring in the talent you think is best, look at all of what Texas has to offer, sure some will say no, but there is a chance for a yes. He has been a great recruiter historically but he has taken a few questionable/horrible players.

 

[Lord Vader]

Brock Fitzhenry

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Word on the street is Heard could easily turn into a John Chiles. What is our backup plan if he isnt ready?[/quote
I laughed

 

[Lord Vader]

You could cry, give it a few months.....

 

[TheContractor]

Anyone have any updates on the Hall hearings/impeachment? Thanks

 

[Lord Vader]

Its still going on. Check back tomorrow

 

[Chitownhorn]

Out of the 3rd tier give me Fitzgerald. His players will run through a wall for him and he is probably close to accomplishing everything he can at NU but does he have the experience to make the quantum leap from NU to UT?

 

[Black Scholes]

Carroll - through his agent - was very interested in the job a year ago. Also reached out to OU. I'm sure that interest is less now but he's very open to a return to college ball. I'd consider him, but you would definitely need a strong hand above him. DeLoss's laissez faire approach would be a probable disaster.

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Carroll - through his agent - was very interested in the job a year ago. Also reached out to OU. I'm sure that interest is less now but he's very open to a return to college ball. I'd consider him, but you would definitely need a strong hand above him. DeLoss's laissez faire approach would be a probable disaster.

This kind of stuff makes me sick. We could have had either him or Saban after last year and instead got stuck with another year of Mack and could possibly end up with neither.

 

[Fuddy]

Carroll - through his agent - was very interested in the job a year ago. Also reached out to OU. I'm sure that interest is less now but he's very open to a return to college ball. I'd consider him, but you would definitely need a strong hand above him. DeLoss's laissez faire approach would be a probable disaster.

Missed Urban by two (or three?) years and Carroll by one year

 

[hornrush]

See if the following sounds familiar to those in the know. MacPhaul especially, please note some of the wording used. Would love to know what your thoughts on this.

--Make Saban say no and on our timetable. This doesn't have to be public nor does it have to be overt.

 

--Make Urban Meyer say no and on our timetable. This too doesn't have to be public or overt.

 

--Have a stable of names that have been vetted then get someone in here who can hit the ground running, get his new staff in place and recruiting hiccups covered as best they can before NSD.

 

--Move spring game back until well after Easter to establish new S & C priorities and begin to lay ground work and attack plan for the upcoming team.

 

--Use the spring season to separate the sheep and the goats and begin a new era of Texas football.

Hook'em!

 

[TheContractor]

The only thing that made sense to me was to push the spring game back, use S&C to weed out the weak. The new staff regardless of who it is needs to get the ball rolling.

Don't understand why ur trying to get Saban and Meyer to say no, in private, and about timelines.

 

[hornrush]

Perhaps I should try to be a little more direct for you.

These aren't my thoughts.

Hook'em!

 

[RealtorHorn]

Bowlsby is still the AD Texas prefers. The road block is his contract. I heard that we are looking into every loophole. The other issue that is bothersome is the political fallout. The other B12 Presidents are against this move.
Luck is the No.2 and if we cannot work a deal with Bowlsby, he should get the offer. My favorite candidate was Del Conte for personal reasons. He was one of the first to interview. We told him thanks but, no thanks. If it falls through with Luck, look for us to go back to Del Conte.

On to the coaching search.

Sabans if he wants and I think he does.

2nd Tier - Gruden, Carroll & Tomlin

3rd Tier - Muschamp, Fitzgerald & Briles

Do not want Muschamp as HC. If we could pay our assistants upwards of $3M/each this is what I would like:

HC: Saban

OC: Sherman

DC: Muschamp

McPhaul... IYO, what is the likelihood of this scenario happening?

 

[Black Scholes]

Saban has some pretty good reasons to come to Austin, but Bama can probably counter most of them. My reservation is that now that the whole thing is so much in the public eye it makes it more unlikely. Personal opinion on that one. If it does happen, we're gonna pay though.

I think Muschamp looks good to many because he's the opposite of the last guy, but that's not always the best strategy (remember McWilliams to Mackovic?). Selfishly I'd be happy with Muschamp because we share some very good mutual friends, but I really don't think he's the best choice for the job in the long run. Three years of repeated issues offensively is not a coincidence. He apparently has no idea what an OC looks like, and I've already seen versions of that movie.

 

[Fuddy]

Saban has some pretty good reasons to come to Austin, but Bama can probably counter most of them. My reservation is that now that the whole thing is so much in the public eye it makes it more unlikely. Personal opinion on that one. If it does happen, we're gonna pay though.
I think Muschamp looks good to many because he's the opposite of the last guy, but that's not always the best strategy (remember McWilliams to Mackovic?). Selfishly I'd be happy with Muschamp because we share some very good mutual friends, but I really don't think he's the best choice for the job in the long run. Three years of repeated issues offensively is not a coincidence. He apparently has no idea what an OC looks like, and I've already seen versions of that movie.

Thoughts on Mora, Briles or Strong?

 

[Bevostuntdouble]

Mack has always been the guy who is afraid of rejection so he never asks out a girl that might say no, especially with OOS recruits. Bring in the talent you think is best, look at all of what Texas has to offer, sure some will say no, but there is a chance for a yes. He has been a great recruiter historically but he has taken a few questionable/horrible players.

Agreed completely.