Coaching Changes, Rumors, Misc.

[DBOOK23]

The same could be said before this season started.  Tom made winning really, really harder than it had to be.  Brain fart calls on offense, not being able to find a way to get pressure on opposing qb’s, poor special teams, etc led us to where we sit now

Not all on the HC. We couldn’t tackle your grandmother on defense it was really really bad

 

[primal defense]

I listened to a Notre Dame podcast and they said the problem with Chip Long is that he is a get in your face and yell type. There is a fine line between yelling at a player and going over that line into abuse and Long seem to cross that line quite often. The words that they described about Chip was 'that he's a straight up asshole'  The offensive players were complaining and with the transfer portal available players don't have to take it anymore. They pointed out that Brian Kelly is also a yeller, so Chip had to be really bad.
 
They also brought up that while he was the most successful offensive coordinator that Brian Kelly has had, the offense hasn't shown up in Notre Dame's big games. Scoring 3 points against Clemson in the playoffs last year didn't help. 
 
We saw how a position coach can bring down the offense and I wouldn't the same kind of behavior from the offensive coordinator. Bijan has said that he like's the family atmosphere at UT, however I don't think he wants an abusive uncle.
 
If Herman were to hire Long then that's two times in a row that Herman has has hired an offensive coordinator that has just been fired or about to be fired as an offensive coordinator.

 

[zion3d]

I don't know.  It seems that it has to be a home run hire.  At least that what he has set it up to be.  Hiring an OC that has been fired does not seem to fill that bill.

 

[primal defense]

The LHN during the day.... tens of hundreds were probably watching.  

That doesn't matter if one of those only one of those hundreds post it on the internet. Herman's bird shooting was national on the internet about 20 minutes after it happened.

 

[zion3d]

Do a search today on TH and most of it is about the double bird horn flip.  Wish it could be for better reason. 

 

[DBOOK23]

That doesn't matter if one of those only one of those hundreds post it on the internet. Herman's bird shooting was national on the internet about 20 minutes after it happened.

I think you guys should stop whining about a middle finger, this is a non issue.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

I don't know.  It seems that it has to be a home run hire.  At least that what he has set it up to be.  Hiring an OC that has been fired does not seem to fill that bill.

For the sake of discussion, who do you consider to be a home run hire?

 

[primal defense]

I think you guys should stop whining about a middle finger, this is a non issue.

Looks whose talking. You were the biggest whiner on the board a couple of weeks ago about Herman not hiring a coordinator at the speed you liked.

 

[utparothed]

I don’t care if Saban is coaching them up, if you don’t have the best players, you won’t win championships.

Tell that to Matt Rhule, while he didn't win a championship he did come pretty damn close without having Alabama talent.  His recruiting classes were ranked 40th in 2017, 29th in 2018, 35th in 2019 and Baylor's 52nd currently.  He's taken Baylor from a 1-11 team coming off one of the worst scandals in football to 11-2 with a Sugar Bowl berth and has done it without the benefit of having the "best players".  You can sign the best players in the nation but if you can't do anything with them once you them get on campus you're not going to beat the guy that has the ability to coach up the kids who aren't the best.  If you can't coach you can't win and if you can't win you're going to have a very hard time on the recruiting trail. 

About Nick Saban...

The guy's won 6 national championships, 8 conference championships and has a lifetime record as a college head coach of 242–65–1.  He's put more players into the NFL than I care to count and had 56 players who were on week one rosters.  He can coach and he surrounds himself with people who can coach, that's why he wins and that's why kids want to play for him.  You'd be a fool to believe that he's always had the best players, he hasn't, but what he was been able to do is coach up the 2&3 star kids to play like 4&5 stars and he's won championships with those kids.  You don't always win because you have the best players, you win because you get the best out of your players and that's exactly what Saban does.

 

[DBOOK23]

Looks whose talking. You were the biggest whiner on the board a couple of weeks ago about Herman not hiring a coordinator at the speed you liked.

Lol that was different 

 

[Eastexhorn]

IT has a list of OCs and how they would fit Hermans offense. Its free.

 

[zion3d]

Honestly I cannot say.  Everything when it comes to hiring seems to be nothing but an argument.  I am not educated enough in coaching hiring field to say.  I hear what everyone else says, Brady, Lashlee, etc...  It curious with coaches though, just like players they can excel beyond your expectations or fall well below them. 

I think the offensive talent was good, consistency sucked, penalties galore, play calling at times was like "what the hell".  I think more than anything they need someone who can mix it up, be creative, and have a great feel for the game so the right plays can be called.  Of course fundamentals are the foundation for success, IMO.

Everyone can identify the problems but who truly knows how to solve it?  I defer to TH on this but the hire should be someone who has the credentials to run the offense and not a coach that has been fired because he has not produced.  I do think that Herman wants to have an OC that can build upon the pro spread that Texas already runs, which to me likely means it will be a college coach and not an NFL one.  In his press conference he said that it could take a while for the hire because of the bowl games that these coaches are in.  He does not mention waiting for the the NFL playoffs to end.  That might be a clue. 

With TH job future being on the line I have to think it will be a hire that leaves most Texas fans yelling "Hell Yeah".

 

[Drb522]

Not all on the HC. We couldn’t tackle your grandmother on defense it was really really bad

He’s not responsible for the teams lack of tackling?  I thought he was responsible for everything.  

 

[North Texas Golfer]

He’s not responsible for the teams lack of tackling?  I thought he was responsible for everything.  

He's responsible for hiring the coaches who can teach tackling. 

 

[Drb522]

He's responsible for hiring the coaches who can teach tackling. 

Rhetorical question 

He’s responsible for the team top to bottom.! If they can’t figure out something in the middle of a game, he should be able to step in and coach the players and coaches alike.  That never happened to my knowledge on the defensive side of the ball

 

[primal defense]

All signs are pointing to Sam Pittman hiring the new Razorback offensive coordinator by week’s end. At this point, there appear to be three, potentially four, frontrunners.

Last week, Colorado’s Jay Johnson seemed to be a leading contender but it doesn’t appear he’s yet interviewed for the position. In the last few days, however, the following coaches have reportedly interviewed to helm Pittman’s offense:

1) Chip Long (Notre Dame’s offensive coordinator who worked for Bobby Petrino at Arkansas as a GA)

2) Kendal Briles (Florida State’s offensive coordinator who has deep ties to Texas thanks to his father, former Baylor coach Art Briles)

3) Major Applewhite (former Houston head coach who is currently serving in Nick Saban’s stable of analysts)

https://www.arkansasfight.com/2019/12/19/21030479/richard-davenport-predicts-major-applewhite-as-hogs-offensive-coordinator

 

[primal defense]

THE OPENINGS HAVE FILLED BUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL'S COACHING CAROUSEL MIGHT STILL BE TURNING

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2019/12/18/college-football-coaching-carousel-might-still-carry-baylors-ruhle/2689253001/

 

[MikeV73]

That doesn't matter if one of those only one of those hundreds post it on the internet. Herman's bird shooting was national on the internet about 20 minutes after it happened.

Was a funny dig at LHN though...

 

[DBOOK23]

A name to keep an eye on for Texas hiring is Paul Rhoades as a DB coach, he fits along with the Herman/Ash tree of friendship and he has head coaching experience.

 

[Baron]

A name to keep an eye on for Texas hiring is Paul Rhoades as a DB coach, he fits along with the Herman/Ash tree of friendship and he has head coaching experience.

That would be odd. The student hiring the teacher, so to speak.