Big 12: Expansion vs Breakup

[Longhorn Ritter]

Just a general question: Are y'all leaning more towards Big 12 expansion or should we attempt a move to one of the other power conferences?

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

Break up!!!!!!

 

[Longhorn Ritter]

Where do you see us going?

 

[BevoBlake]

I still like the idea of us going independent. It grants you the opportunity to put a schedule like this together:

Game 1: vs. LSU

Game 2: vs. TCU

Game 3: @ Notre Dame

Game 4: @ Texas Tech

Game 5: vs. Oklahoma

Game 6: @ Oklahoma State

Game 7: UCLA

Game 8: @ Arizona State

Game 9: USC

Game 10: @ Florida

Game 11: Ohio State

Game 12: Texas A&M

 

[Randolph Duke]

Just a general question: Are y'all leaning more towards Big 12 expansion or should we attempt a move to one of the other power conferences?

There are too many variables out there at the moment to make any moves. The NLRB decision will change the college sports landscape, there is an anti-trust suit against the major conferences and the Univ of Maryland exit fee case is still working its way through the courts. No reasonable AD is going to make any move he isn't forced to make until some of the variables are quantified.

 

[BudreauReye]

As Randolf Duke says, there are too many variables that have to be settled for anything to happen anytime soon except for maybe some minor reorganization. I do not see Texas going independent unless it is a temporary move while waiting to get other ducks in order. With the current "pay for play" issue and the other issues that will either break up the NCAA or force a major reorganization with a reworking of the rules, I would like to see four regionally based super conferences with sixteen teams each and four divisions in each conference with an expanded playoff. What's going to probably happen, is that there will be a more organic break up and re-shuffling based on existing conferences and/or combination of conferences. The top teams who are willing to spend more and pay their players a small stipend, would reorganize and cut their ties with the lesser schools. But really, who knows? Run it up the flagpole and see if anybody salutes.

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

Where do you see us going?

I would either like ACC, PAC, or Indy. It frustrates me we are in an inferior conference academically. There are better academic/athletic conferences for us.

 

[streettopeschel]

I still like the idea of us going independent. It grants you the opportunity to put a schedule like this together:
Game 1: vs. LSU

Game 2: vs. TCU

Game 3: @ Notre Dame

Game 4: @ Texas Tech

Game 5: vs. Oklahoma

Game 6: @ Oklahoma State

Game 7: UCLA

Game 8: @ Arizona State

Game 9: USC

Game 10: @ Florida

Game 11: Ohio State

Game 12: Texas A&M

that schedule would be insanely difficult and virtually assure you'd never play in the playoffs.
say what you will about the SEC, but they've figured this s*** out. schedule 4 cupcakes non-conference and set it up where you don't play all the tough teams in your league by limiting cross-divisional games. it produces a lot of teams with gaudy records and the perception the league is loaded. so whoever comes out of that league undefeated or with only one-loss HAS to be a NC contender, right ?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Expansion

Adding FSU with any other team to get to 12 is ideal; Clemson, Louisville, GaTech, Miami...I don't care.

I don't get the "academic conference" argument. Universities compete for grants and research dollars on their individual merits. The only consortium that works together, that I can see, is the B1G's CIC.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I still like the idea of us going independent. It grants you the opportunity to put a schedule like this together:
Game 1: vs. LSU

Game 2: vs. TCU

Game 3: @ Notre Dame

Game 4: @ Texas Tech

Game 5: vs. Oklahoma

Game 6: @ Oklahoma State

Game 7: UCLA

Game 8: @ Arizona State

Game 9: USC

Game 10: @ Florida

Game 11: Ohio State

Game 12: Texas A&M

That's just brutal.

 

[armadillo slim]

I still like the idea of us going independent. It grants you the opportunity to put a schedule like this together:
Game 1: vs. LSU

Game 2: vs. TCU

Game 3: @ Notre Dame

Game 4: @ Texas Tech

Game 5: vs. Oklahoma

Game 6: @ Oklahoma State

Game 7: UCLA

Game 8: @ Arizona State

Game 9: USC

Game 10: @ Florida

Game 11: Ohio State

Game 12: Texas A&M

welcome to 6-6 every year. that will NEVER EVER HAPPEN. purge it from your mind. it will never happen. EVER.

 

[Brasky]

The best case scenario in my mind would be kicking several teams out and inviting several marquee schools in.

Have the Big 12 be Something like Texas, Baylor, Tech, OU, Ok St, Kansas, Notre Dame, Clemson, Fla St, Ga Tech, WVa, Va Tech.

I know it would never happen but something like that would be cool.

 

[Capn Hook]

First choice is to break this abortion apart. We could probably have several options.

Having said that, who knows what's in store in the near future in the way of mega conferences, particularly if a new division is formed, either within or out of the NCAA.

I cannot imagine any big name schools wanting to come to the Big(?) 12, so I see that as a pipe dream.

 

[BevoBlake]

that schedule would be insanely difficult and virtually assure you'd never play in the playoffs.
say what you will about the SEC, but they've figured this s*** out. schedule 4 cupcakes non-conference and set it up where you don't play all the tough teams in your league by limiting cross-divisional games. it produces a lot of teams with gaudy records and the perception the league is loaded. so whoever comes out of that league undefeated or with only one-loss HAS to be a NC contender, right ?

That's just brutal.

welcome to 6-6 every year. that will NEVER EVER HAPPEN. purge it from your mind. it will never happen. EVER.

That was my commentary on those who like the Independent idea.

I've always been more in favor of joining the PAC or ACC.

 

[mesoHorny]

I still like the idea of us going independent. It grants you the opportunity to put a schedule like this together:
Game 1: vs. LSU

Game 2: vs. TCU

Game 3: @ Notre Dame

Game 4: @ Texas Tech

Game 5: vs. Oklahoma

Game 6: @ Oklahoma State

Game 7: UCLA

Game 8: @ Arizona State

Game 9: USC

Game 10: @ Florida

Game 11: Ohio State

Game 12: Texas A&M

Only a moron would play that schedule.

 

[harpethhorn]

What I'd like to see happen:

Drop TCU, Iowa St

Add FSU, Clemson, Louisville and Georgia Tech

What I THINK will happen:

Texas, Tech, Oklahoma, Okla St join western division of new Pac-16

 

[BudreauReye]

Only a moron would play that schedule.

Did you misspell it? Didn't you mean, "Only a Maroon would play that schedule."?

 

[Pancho Negro]

I still like the idea of us going independent. It grants you the opportunity to put a schedule like this together:
Game 1: vs. LSU

Game 2: vs. TCU

Game 3: @ Notre Dame

Game 4: @ Texas Tech

Game 5: vs. Oklahoma

Game 6: @ Oklahoma State

Game 7: UCLA

Game 8: @ Arizona State

Game 9: USC

Game 10: @ Florida

Game 11: Ohio State

Game 12: Texas A&M

This schedule has to be a joke, right?

 

[Pancho Negro]

Conferences don't "kick out" or "drop" schools. That has never happened and it never will. You can't just kick out a school because you don't like them or because they don't have perceived value in a certain sport.