Basketball schedule update for 2015

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Washington will play Texas in China on Nov. 14, 2015. Pac-12 says it's first time a US major sport will have a regular-season game in China.

Per Jeff Goodman

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

In Beijing? Shanghai?

 

[Topstarr]

Patterson is going all out on the PR

 

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In Beijing? Shanghai?

Good question. See what I can find out. I know nothing about China city wise. What city would be most preferable in terms of visiting? I've heard Shanghai is a great tourist attraction and has beautiful parts of the city.

 

[MikeV73]

Nothing like good PR for a communist regime who continues to have unfair trade practices against the rest of the world. Why not Europe? Europeans value basketball and have good leagues, and most are not run by oppressive governments. A few fans on this board seem to like these wacky "vacation" destination games being promoted by Paterson, but I'm guessing 99% of fans don't have the funds or time to worry about the best hotel in Asia or Mexico City to stay for these games. Do the hotels in china have the rainforest shower feature that was talked about on the USC south of the border match up thread?

 

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Brian Davis is saying that a site hasn't been chosen yet, so I would guess that means city location is still being decided too.

 

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Nothing like good PR for a communist regime who continues to have unfair trade practices against the rest of the world. Why not Europe? Europeans value basketball and have good leagues, and most are not run by oppressive governments. A few fans on this board seem to like these wacky "vacation" destination games being promoted by Paterson, but I'm guessing 99% of fans don't have the funds or time to worry about the best hotel in Asia or Mexico City to stay for these games. Do the hotels in china have the rainforest shower feature that was talked about on the USC south of the border match up thread?

1-I could understand your argument in terms of football, missing one game is pretty big in football based on the limited number of games. But in basketball there's so many games. Missing one game doesn't seem like that big of deal, especially considering the potential benefits.

2-This is just my opinion. I actually think this is good for ending oppressive practices by other nations. I think the best way to end human rights abuses/oppressive trade policies is to engage countries and open up dialogue. If anything this a step in the right direction in building a relationship with China and bridging a partnership. That's a key movement in the right direction for even having the ability to seek change on oppressive policies.

 

[MikeV73]

1-I could understand your argument in terms of football, missing one game is pretty big in football based on the limited number of games. But in basketball there's so many games. Missing one game doesn't seem like that big of deal, especially considering the potential benefits.
2-This is just my opinion. I actually think this is good for ending oppressive practices by other nations. I think the best way to end human rights abuses/oppressive trade policies is to engage countries and open up dialogue. If anything this a step in the right direction in building a relationship with China and bridging a partnership. That's a key movement in the right direction for even having the ability to seek change on oppressive policies.

Maybe we could send Team Rodman over as our goodwill ambassador! Wasn't that Rodman generated episode a disaster! Not so much concerned about missing a home game, just think it is a bit much to think that the university will generate tons of money and new fans by holding a game in China. I don't think a basketball game has any influence over oppressive practices; our country always thinks that we can impose American ideals on regimes in other countries. It doesn't work, look at the messes our country have been involved in since the Korean War/Vietnam War/Middle East, we just keep the opposition at bay until we bail out after spending gazillions of US dollars (borrowed from China).

 

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Maybe we could send Team Rodman over as our goodwill ambassador! Wasn't that Rodman generated episode a disaster! Not so much concerned about missing a home game, just think it is a bit much to think that the university will generate tons of money and new fans by holding a game in China. I don't think a basketball game has any influence over oppressive practices; our country always thinks that we can impose American ideals on regimes in other countries. It doesn't work, look at the messes our country have been involved in since the Korean War/Vietnam War/Middle East, we just keep the opposition at bay until we bail out after spending gazillions of US dollars (borrowed from China).

1-I don't think Rodman was ever considered a goodwill ambassador by the US government, but I could be wrong. I think that was just Rodman being Rodman.

2-I can agree that basketball alone has no influence over oppressive practices, but it's a building block in terms of relationships. The only option for stopping oppressive practices is through A) Military intervention or B) Dialogue. You have to start somewhere and continue to build relationships for there to be any type of positive dialogue. I also agree that a big problem with US foreign policy is imposing American ideals on foreign countries.........but I don't see that taking place here. If anything China has adopted the "basketball culture" and want it over there. It's one thing if the US was trying to impose some type of trade policy on China, but we are talking about a mutually agreed upon basketball game. Seems like a good bridging gap for relationships.

 

[MikeV73]

1-I don't think Rodman was ever considered a goodwill ambassador by the US government, but I could be wrong. I think that was just Rodman being Rodman.
2-I can agree that basketball alone has no influence over oppressive practices, but it's a building block in terms of relationships. The only option for stopping oppressive practices is through A) Military intervention or B) Dialogue. You have to start somewhere and continue to build relationships for there to be any type of positive dialogue. I also agree that a big problem with US foreign policy is imposing American ideals on foreign countries.........but I don't see that taking place here. If anything China has adopted the "basketball culture" and want it over there. It's one thing if the US was trying to impose some type of trade policy on China, but we are talking about a mutually agreed upon basketball game. Seems like a good bridging gap for relationships.

The Rodman commentary was sarcasm of course; nobody, especially any govt other than N Korea was on board with his actions!

I see your point on relationship building, I just don't think it amounts to much political capital.

 

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The Rodman commentary was sarcasm of course; nobody, especially any govt other than N Korea was on board with his actions!I see your point on relationship building, I just don't think it amounts to much political capital.

I figured you were being sarcastic. There's actually been a few people in the US government though that approved Rodman's actions. Can't remember names, but they were nobodies (local politicians if I recall). Probably just a publicity stunt on there part anyways.

 

[MikeV73]

I figured you were being sarcastic. There's actually been a few people in the US government though that approved Rodman's actions. Can't remember names, but they were nobodies (local politicians if I recall). Probably just a publicity stunt on there part anyways.

Hopefully those politicians do not get re-elected! I appreciate your point of view and comments. Have a good weekend.

 

[BudreauReye]

Patterson's intention seems to be in large part about marketing. China is the largest market in the world. It is not like we are sending the Longhorns to North Korea or Iran. Whether we like it or not, China is one of our major trading partners and will remain so for the foreseeable future. The aging of the Chinese population and the need to take care of that unprecedented older population in the near future dictates that the Chinese economy is probably already peaking and will plateau and probably decline in the next 20-30 years. However, because of the shear size of the Chinese population, their culture and their economy will continue to have an unprecedented impact on the rest of the world long past the length of our lives. It is obvious that Communism is a failed political system. The leadership of China, Russia, and Viet Nam remain nominally "Communist" because the histories of their cultures do not have precedents like the "democratic", somewhat more "free market" West. Whether they have economic and political systems like the West, it seems to me that, whether we like it or not, we are going to have to live with them on the world stage. So, if you want to be on the cutting edge of marketing your sports brand on the world stage, what is so wrong with trying to stake out a little bit of turf on the larger stage of the world market? It seems to me that Patterson is thinking in a pretty progressive way - far from the sideshow antics of Mr. Rodman in North Korea.

I bet they go to Shanghai. Man, what an educational experience that would be for these young men! If I had a few extra bucks lying around, I would sign on for that trip!