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Just looked.. not only did I not mock the video, you’re the one who used the laughing emoticon on it. Guy you have to do better. 
I could have sworn you "lol" reaction to that video but I did just check and I dont see it.  I was wrong about the actual video gilbert posted.  You did however do that to a few of reaction posts to it without any context that I can see. 

What I do not understand is why you cant call that shit out for what it is.  Everyone here called out the wrong that was done Floyd by that pos Chauvin.  We were not silent about it and condemned it without being asked to because it was the right thing to do.

 
It makes me laugh so much. The same group of people who tell people they should be afraid of MS-13. The same people who say cops are needed because African Americans are just so violet and aggressive. The same people speaking about the death in Chicago. Those are the same people who say oh don’t you worry.. we have guns. We aren’t afraid. That is good. You shouldn’t be afraid. But also... people didn’t stop making guns when they sold them to you. Stop with all this talk of the right being ready for some civil war or if BLM people came to your neighborhood. It’s all talk. You shouldn’t want to have to take a life to show you’re not afraid. 
Seriously man, what do you think we should do as Americans?  Should we all just sit by and watch these thugs beat the shit out of white people because they support Trump?  Do you see a bunch of Trump supporters beating up black people because they support Obama?  If you do point them out so we can condemn them.  This constant violence and shaming of Trump supporters at some point is going to blow up in their face. 

I have been very consistent in calling this American vs American battle a sideshow that will result in freedoms being taken away and for the path to tyranny and big government.  At some point however we can only do what we can.  It takes both sides to work towards peaceful resolution.  If you think I am somehow touting I am not afraid you are wrong.  I am afraid for this country and our god given liberties.  This has nothing to do with Biden or Trump.  This shit has been going on for years long before Trump came down the escalator.  I do not buy the narrative Trump gaslights this either.  The media does and hate groups do that. 

The constant drumming of white worship, white supremacy, white fragility, white nationalism, white privilege and any other "ism" starts to piss some white people off.  It pisses me off.  Its like a nagging girlfriend you just want to drop off on the side of the road.  I was born white.  I never owned slaves.  I am not a racist, I know how I feel in my heart.  Google, CNN, and the rest of the MSM trash can go F@#K off for all I care, they dont know what is in my heart, neither does anyone else.  If I get angry then it must be some sort of white guilt.  That is total bullshit.  I am beginning to believe no matter how good the intention was this has become more of way to shame white people for simply being white.  Shame men for being men.  Shame Patriots for loving their country because we are an "evil" nation.  F@#K them all.  There are immigrants who are more patriotic to this country than some of these thugs.  Its physiological warfare.  If you keep poking a dog, even a complacent dog, eventually the dog will fight back.  How do you think this is going to end?  I am willing to listen but all I hear is hate with no reasonable solutions.  It gets tiresome.

Also it is a grave mistake if you think its all talk.  If I am forced to protect my family I would not hesitate to use lethal force if it requires to do so.  That is just common sense not war mongering.  One of these times someone is going to be killed by someone carrying.  All hell will break loose. 

The red line, civil war wise, for me will be any attempt to take away 2A.  That will be the last straw for me.  The 2A was given to protect the people from their own government.  They will meet force if they try this bullshit.  Not saying they will try but it sure as hell seems that way.  Governments do not rule people they work for the people and somehow this has been lost.

BTW dont even try to defend MS-13 they are murderous rapist of children.  Anyone who claims otherwise is peddling horseshit

 
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It makes me laugh so much. The same group of people who tell people they should be afraid of MS-13. The same people who say cops are needed because African Americans are just so violet and aggressive. The same people speaking about the death in Chicago. Those are the same people who say oh don’t you worry.. we have guns. We aren’t afraid. That is good. You shouldn’t be afraid. But also... people didn’t stop making guns when they sold them to you. Stop with all this talk of the right being ready for some civil war or if BLM people came to your neighborhood. It’s all talk. You shouldn’t want to have to take a life to show you’re not afraid. 


"The same people who say cops are needed because African Americans are just so violet and aggressive."



I'm guessing you're referring to the guy you voted for. lol

"Stop with all this talk of the right being ready for some civil war or if BLM people came to your neighborhood. It’s all talk. You shouldn’t want to have to take a life to show you’re not afraid. "

Why? It is always best to assert what you're willing to do. Nobody wants to take a life. But when it comes to me or them, it's going to be them.

I would not discount the readiness of the right. They will not accept socialism and thats exactly where the Left will take us. So yeah, I pretty much think a civil war is riding at about 80% probability right now.

After what BLM and Antifa have done to the Democrat-run cities, . . . the destruction, the violence, the death, the end to people's livelihoods . . . it only makes sense to get yourself ready. Why wouldn't you think it's coming? Nobody ever thought the Left would do this. But they did. Nobody thought they'd try to steal an election, but it sure looks like they've tried. Nobody thought Russia! Russia! Russia! was real. But the Democrats drug the country through that anyway. Nobody thought the Mueller team would find a thing. And they didn't. But the Democrats drug the country through that, too. Nobody thought Trump deserved an impeachment. But yes, the Democrats drug this country through that, too.

There is nothing off the table at this point. So failure to be ready is pretty stupid and irresponsible. I buy ammo almost every week now days for five different weapons.

 
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I could have sworn you "lol" reaction to that video but I did just check and I dont see it.  I was wrong about the actual video gilbert posted.  You did however do that to a few of reaction posts to it without any context that I can see. 

What I do not understand is why you cant call that shit out for what it is.  Everyone here called out the wrong that was done Floyd by that pos Chauvin.  We were not silent about it and condemned it without being asked to because it was the right thing to do.
You’ve called out the wrong once.... good for you. But come on man. If George Floyd is all you got as an example of you standing up & “calling shit out for what it is”, I got nothing for you. So I used an emoticon “without any context”... that’s cool. But that’s something totally different than mocking. If you wanted to know what I meant by the emoticon, you could have asked me. I think I’ve shown you that you could come to me if you had something to say. But you didn’t do that. You accused me of doing something and tried to use it as your example of not being able to be civil with me. Cool. 

 
Seriously man, what do you think we should do as Americans?  Should we all just sit by and watch these thugs beat the shit out of white people because they support Trump?  Do you see a bunch of Trump supporters beating up black people because they support Obama?  If you do point them out so we can condemn them.  This constant violence and shaming of Trump supporters at some point is going to blow up in their face. 

I have been very consistent in calling this American vs American battle a sideshow that will result in freedoms being taken away and for the path to tyranny and big government.  At some point however we can only do what we can.  It takes both sides to work towards peaceful resolution.  If you think I am somehow touting I am not afraid you are wrong.  I am afraid for this country and our god given liberties.  This has nothing to do with Biden or Trump.  This shit has been going on for years long before Trump came down the escalator.  I do not buy the narrative Trump gaslights this either.  The media does and hate groups do that. 

The constant drumming of white worship, white supremacy, white fragility, white nationalism, white privilege and any other "ism" starts to piss some white people off.  It pisses me off.  Its like a nagging girlfriend you just want to drop off on the side of the road.  I was born white.  I never owned slaves.  I am not a racist, I know how I feel in my heart.  Google, CNN, and the rest of the MSM trash can go F@#K off for all I care, they dont know what is in my heart, neither does anyone else.  If I get angry then it must be some sort of white guilt.  That is total bullshit.  I am beginning to believe no matter how good the intention was this has become more of way to shame white people for simply being white.  Shame men for being men.  Shame Patriots for loving their country because we are an "evil" nation.  F@#K them all.  There are immigrants who are more patriotic to this country than some of these thugs.  Its physiological warfare.  If you keep poking a dog, even a complacent dog, eventually the dog will fight back.  How do you think this is going to end?  I am willing to listen but all I hear is hate with no reasonable solutions.  It gets tiresome.

Also it is a grave mistake if you think its all talk.  If I am forced to protect my family I would not hesitate to use lethal force if it requires to do so.  That is just common sense not war mongering.  One of these times someone is going to be killed by someone carrying.  All hell will break loose. 

The red line, civil war wise, for me will be any attempt to take away 2A.  That will be the last straw for me.  The 2A was given to protect the people from their own government.  They will meet force if they try this bullshit.  Not saying they will try but it sure as hell seems that way.  Governments do not rule people they work for the people and somehow this has been lost.

BTW dont even try to defend MS-13 they are murderous rapist of children.  Anyone who claims otherwise is peddling horseshit
Come on man... I didn’t know this was a white v. black thing. I could have sworn black people just voted for a person who was white. Yet you go to the well are there Trump supporters beating up balcony people. Honestly, I don’t know. And neither do you. But you are talking like you know it doesn’t happen. And you’re talking like you know what occurred prior to anything happening in that video. That’s why I don’t speak on the videos. Sure it’s wrong to punch people, but I don’t know what those people did prior to that punch. It’s just like you saying you protect your family. If I just filmed you shooting someone & posted it with context, people would assume you just murdered someone with just cause. Wouldn’t you want people to know why you shot someone? Or are you fine with the internet running with the video and you paying the consequences of that? 
 

Please spare me with the “constant drumming”... yeah you didn’t chose to be born white, but it gave you benefits that you reap none the less. I didn’t chose to be born black & I wouldn’t change it. Why should that mean I’m treated different? I didn’t chose it just like you. Yet you’re complaints are what people think about you. My complaints are what people think about me but even more what those thoughts can & have lead to. Do you not see the difference?? It’s insulting that for you being called a racist & white anger makes this country so hard for you when what makes it hard for me are the actions of people. I’ve lost a family member to the police. And no it wasn’t someone mouthing off or not following orders. There was actual no interaction with the police, at that something. I’ve has a white person point at me and pretend to lynch themselves. I’ve been called boy before. I’ve been watched when I’ve entered stores. My parents have had to have “the talk” with me. This isn’t about what people feel about me man. And you speak about Patriots. My family has had so many people serve on the Army and Navy. I’ve seen my uncle struggle with the PTSD of things he did in war. Yet I’m told I don’t love this country if I support people kneeling during the anthem. Why? My family fought for this country and died for this country. They fought for me to have the freedom to do that. 
 

Maybe it’s not all talk to you, but are you willing to deal with the fall out?? This is what I’m trying to say. Republicans aren’t the only ones with guns. And you’re not the only one with family you love. Don’t be in that mind set man. Cause I can tell you, someone take me out, my family loves me too man. Don’t think it’s over because that love will turn to anger and you can guess what comes next. And if I know this to be true about my family... do you not think there are similar feelings with other families? Why risk your life and the life of your family? You want a Hatfield and McCoy feud? Use your words man. Maybe stop calling them thugs. Maybe have a dialogue. 
 

The 2A isn’t gonna save you dude. That’s why I don’t understand people saying of the government comes for my guns I will be ready. Do you really think that? Name the biggest, baddest gun you got. Now think what does the government have? Tanks, drones, an actual military force, ICE agents, FBI agents, ATF, etc. You cannot win a fight with the government. If they came for your guns, it’s best you give them up. If you shot at them, you may get one but you and whoever you have with you will pay for that. 
 

Where did I defend MS13? Come on guy, you’re lying on me again. I only brought up MS13 to point out that that is a terrible gang. Gangs in Chicago, dangerous. Gangs in LA, dangerous. Gangs in Dallas, dangerous. A civil war doesn’t just become a Trump supporters v Dems. Or a white v black. It becomes some so much more and very deadly. I wouldn’t want to see those people free to practice their murderous ways. But that’s would occur. That’s why people should tone down the talks of guns and civil war. It doesn’t end well. Cooler heads, cooler heads. Outside of maybe one person on this board, I’ve been open to speaking with anyone. I’ve had private conversations with a few people. Including you. Why? Because I feel like you gotta be able to speak with people to ease a situation. For the most part, no matter what’s been said, you can always find something to agree on. But once you start taking about guns and war, there’s no coming back from that. 

 
I saw this story before the election in some small paper but it was not talked about in the media
That's because the mainstream media/network news all read from the same leftist playbook covering up the Biden Crime Family's transgressions.

 
The 2A isn’t gonna save you dude. That’s why I don’t understand people saying of the government comes for my guns I will be ready. Do you really think that? Name the biggest, baddest gun you got. Now think what does the government have? Tanks, drones, an actual military force, ICE agents, FBI agents, ATF, etc. You cannot win a fight with the government. If they came for your guns, it’s best you give them up. If you shot at them, you may get one but you and whoever you have with you will pay for that.
Civil war would be devastating for everyone.  The military would be fractured. When the first break down occurs after someone is shot trying to seize guns, these soldiers are not going to want to kill their own with tanks etc.  There will be a rebellion in the military as well.  It has happened throughout history in every civil war.  

I believe gun seizures happened in Germany during the Nazi regime.  I know it happened in Venezuela as well.  Yes it didnt end well for the people.  I can only speak for myself, I guarantee you I will not give up my guns. I suspect many others will do the same.  If my USMC son is ordered to kill people resisting I can promise you he wont do it.

 
Civil war would be devastating for everyone.  The military would be fractured. When the first break down occurs after someone is shot trying to seize guns, these soldiers are not going to want to kill their own with tanks etc.  There will be a rebellion in the military as well.  It has happened throughout history in every civil war.  

I believe gun seizures happened in Germany during the Nazi regime.  I know it happened in Venezuela as well.  Yes it didnt end well for the people.  I can only speak for myself, I guarantee you I will not give up my guns. I suspect many others will do the same.  If my USMC son is ordered to kill people resisting I can promise you he wont do it.
True. Were do people think most soldiers come from, rural or urban areas? People are not going to shoot their own. 

I thought I'd be dead by the time this country imploded, however it's on the fast track to do so.

 
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