All Things Politics Thread

[DMAC]

"Call my mom" ?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[tejasrulz]

Just watched ABC local news in Austin Sunday 5:30pn.  Apparently they know all about the election and any potential court rulings because they referred to Trump’s legal challenges as hopeless.  

I remember when they filmed the BLM rioters blocking I35 and throwing rocks, frozen water bottles, boards, you name it, at the police. Remember, it was their film crew. Then the next day on the news and their web-site, the only thing they stated the protesters threw were fireworks. After 35years of watching them, I quit that day. The others here in Austin are bad but not that blatant about it.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[DMAC]

I love seeing all the people who for 4 years called Dems snowflakes, talked about Trump Derangement Syndrome. And talked about how much of a hoax talks of Russia. Now all they talk about is voter fraud. Mail in ballots “swinging” the election. Blah blah blah. Guess what? Those mail in ballots were votes by people who were tired of Trump. He’s lost. It’s over. He will crying and bring legal challenges. Those will fail because there was no fraud and Trump lost. He will concede in a few weeks. And all this stupid talk of mail in ballots will only matter to the MAGA base who never thought their dear leader could lose. They were never gonna accept Biden winning. So they go to bed at night and just suck it up because, Joe Biden is the President elect and come January he will be the President. And then I hope the fun can start. Time for the DOJ to investigate the criminality that has occurred in our country. 

Wait a second wasnt it the left talking Russia Russia?   Mueller investigation.....  Now you dismiss any notion of voter fraud or election.  ?

You of all people should be concerned with the integrity of the election process.  The day politicians, regardless of party, are elected with the aid of a fraudulent voting process is the day same day politicians are no longer beholden to the voters.  What happens then?  Democracy dies and does our constitutional republic.  Surely you can see this.

Whats the issue?  If Biden has won legitimately then Trump should concede graciously to the will of the people.  There are numerous affidavits already filed and signed from poll workers.  Will it change anything?  I dont know but let the transparency come to light.

 

[dillohorn]

Just like the Obama years. I guess I won't be watching the news for the next 4 years. Looks like the GOP will be extinct if nothing is done about this fraud.

 

[dillohorn]

Wait a second wasnt it the left talking Russia Russia?   Mueller investigation.....  Now you dismiss any notion of voter fraud or election.  ?

You of all people should be concerned with the integrity of the election process.  The day politicians, regardless of party, are elected with the aid of a fraudulent voting process is the day same day politicians are no longer beholden to the voters.  What happens then?  Democracy dies and does our constitutional republic.  Surely you can see this.

Whats the issue?  If Biden has won legitimately then Trump should concede graciously to the will of the people.  There are numerous affidavits already filed and signed from poll workers.  Will it change anything?  I dont know but let the transparency come to light.

I hit the ignore button on hornsup. He knows he is wrong. He just wants to argue.

 

[DMAC]

I hit the ignore button on hornsup. He knows he is wrong. He just wants to argue.

I am ok with debating @hornsups.  We can have somewhat civil discourse with him.  There are others though its like talking to a Yahoo news article, memes and gifs. ?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[DMAC]

2 hours ago, DMAC said:

Another example:

This is a 40,000 vote swing, if it is illegitimate.  Bidens current lead in PA is 43,000

We shall see.

 

[hornsups]

Wait a second wasnt it the left talking Russia Russia?   Mueller investigation.....  Now you dismiss any notion of voter fraud or election.  ?

You of all people should be concerned with the integrity of the election process.  The day politicians, regardless of party, are elected with the aid of a fraudulent voting process is the day same day politicians are no longer beholden to the voters.  What happens then?  Democracy dies and does our constitutional republic.  Surely you can see this.

Whats the issue?  If Biden has won legitimately then Trump should concede graciously to the will of the people.  There are numerous affidavits already filed and signed from poll workers.  Will it change anything?  I dont know but let the transparency come to light.

It wasn’t just “the left” talking about Russia. But what was the response? As I said, it was all a hoax in Trump and his supporters eyes. So excuse me if I think the idea that mail in ballots lead to some fraud that caused Trump the election. You want people to believe that Democrats had this genius plan to cheat. Yet they only did it against Trump. Why not in Maine where Susan Collins was vulnerable? I mean Biden did win 3 of the 4 districts there. Why not in North Carolina where Tom Tillis was vulnerable? Or Iowa? Or in purple Congressional districts? The election happened. We voted. The overwhelming majority of the population decided we had enough of Trump. He was fired. He lost his job. I’ve just witnessed 4 years of a man who lost the popular vote acting like a dictator. So forgive me if I don’t want to hear from people who supported his decisions crying about an election. Biden won the electoral college and the popular vote. He’s the next president. People voted by mail which was legal. Some states counted those votes early like Ohio and Florida. Those states also allowed the votes to be counted sooner. Biden was up in those states then the in person Election Day votes came in and he lost those states. Other states like Pennsylvania and Georgia counted mail in ballots after in person Election Day votes. Trump was up then lost when those voters had their voices heard. As I said, let Trump have his cases dismissed by the judges. The best case was in Pennsylvania and those counties all came out and said they sat aside the ballots they were told to hold off on counting. They were wrapped and time stamped. Those votes were not needed. It’s over. This is sad and embarrassing for Trump. He never thought he could lose, that’s on him. But he’s gotta go. And hope Biden is nice enough to tell the DOJ not to come after him. His family, they have to worry about the SDNY.  

 

[DMAC]

Trump has closed within 17k of AZ after being down 120k.  He would need 58% of the remaining ballots and provisional ballots to go Trump.

 

[DMAC]

You want people to believe that Democrats had this genius plan to cheat. Yet they only did it against Trump. Why not in Maine where Susan Collins was vulnerable? I mean Biden did win 3 of the 4 districts there. Why not in North Carolina where Tom Tillis was vulnerable? Or Iowa? Or in purple Congressional districts?

Those are very valid points.  Believe me that has crossed my mind.  You are right it doesnt make much sense.  There is another concern which is odd though.  9000% increase in one vote tickets.  That would explain why Republicans did better than expected yet Trump is losing.  We shall see

 

[hornsups]

Trump has closed within 17k of AZ after being down 120k.  He would need 58% of the remaining ballots and provisional ballots to go Trump.

This is the other thing I don’t get.. people are cheering as Republican votes come in when Biden was up big in Arizona. But people are screaming fraud when those Democratic votes were coming in in Pennsylvania. I think all the votes coming in count. If Trump ends up winning Arizona, I won’t scream fraud. 

 

[DMAC]

This is the other thing I don’t get.. people are cheering as Republican votes come in when Biden was up big in Arizona. But people are screaming fraud when those Democratic votes were coming in in Pennsylvania. I think all the votes coming in count. If Trump ends up winning Arizona, I won’t scream fraud. 

Well I am pretty sure most Trump supporters are cheering because they feel Trump is beating out the fraud in AZ.  Well thats my take from the twitter people.  The stats of Maricopa are very odd.  Maybe I got the county wrong, honestly I cant remember.  Trump won blue counties in AZ by a wide margin that he was expected to lose badly.  Thats why they called AZ before those were counted. 

In the end Trump would need to win AZ, GA, and NC and one of PA, MI, WI.  Steep climb

GA is headed for a recount.  NC he has the lead.  AZ even if he doesnt win is probably headed to an audit and recount.  We will see how it all goes down.

 

[hornsups]

Well I am pretty sure most Trump supporters are cheering because they feel Trump is beating out the fraud in AZ.  Well thats my take from the twitter people.  The stats of Maricopa are very odd.  Maybe I got the county wrong, honestly I cant remember.  Trump won blue counties in AZ by a wide margin that he was expected to lose badly.  Thats why they called AZ before those were counted. 

In the end Trump would need to win AZ, GA, and NC and one of PA, MI, WI.  Steep climb

GA is headed for a recount.  NC he has the lead.  AZ even if he doesnt win is probably headed to an audit and recount.  We will see how it all goes down.

Arizona voted for a Democratic Senator in 2018. There was a lot of work done by Hispanic organizers there to get those voters out. Also there was a very popular Democratic nominee running for the Senate, he won. Also the demographics in Maricopa  county is changing as it is all over the country with cities and the suburbs of those cities being bluer. Trump has no chance of getting anything done with WI or MI. PA is the best shot at having a court case go his way and that’s likely not gonna happen with the counties all saying they separated the  votes they had to sit aside. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

All I’m going to say is if this is true, Trump is a genius! You guys read this! Someone sent me this, and I’m hoping this is the case and keeping all the faith in God, good will prevail! Either he’s totally nuts or he’s 100% right.
 
Trump knew all along they were going to cheat.  But if you catch them in advance of a crime you can not expose it to the public and they can deny it. This cheating has been going on for decades. They watched the 2018 elections and observed how they cheated. They let them cheat to take the House so they could let them think they got away with it. That is why Trump said the Senate was the key. It was best to let the public see how crazy the Dems and Nancy were when they were in charge. He exposed them by letting them cheat to get control of the House in 2018. 
 
Trump wants to end it so he set a trap. He made an executive order in 2018 that all Federal elections are a national security issue. All the resources of the 16 intelligence agencies have been monitoring the fraud. They have been documenting and recording everything. When Trump took Florida and Ohio big time he was speeding to an election landslide. They could not let that happen. They stopped the counting in the middle of the night in the key Democratic controlled states and told all the counters to take a break. Then at 4 am while they are all on break the 128,000 ballots all 100 % for Biden (statistically impossible) were delivered to be counted. Same thing for Wisconsin. Trump knows this and has had the National security agencies who had spies in there document everything.
 
Now when he goes to the Supreme court he has all the evidence. Trump has never tweeted anything that he has no evidence of. He has always told the truth. That is why he looks so confident. He has caught them in the act. If you saw his 2 am speech he was smiling like he was so happy they caught them. He mentioned at 2 am about a 4 am drop of Ballots, he was signaling he already knew what they would do.  He said he wants to make sure they never do this again to any president. Do not worry Trump has already won, what you are seeing is the theater playing out. It has all been planned for and scripted. I believe we are still going to take the house. There are still 14 congressional seats where the Republican challengers against the incumbent Dems have the Republicans leading.
 
I believe this time the cheating will be reversed and people will be prosecuted and made examples of since they have been recording and documenting everything.  Do not watch mainstream news; they are all lying and distorting the facts. They called Michigan for Biden but the Michigan elections board officially shows Trump with an insurmountable 3.5% lead. They know they can not win but they are hoping to cause enough confusion. Trump will have to go to court and they know the judges Trump appointed will rule in favor of Trump. Then the next four years they can say he stole the election, he is illegitimate as his appointed judges gave him the election. This is the narrative they want to spin. Trump knew in advance what they would do. That is why it was so important to have Amy Coney Barret appointed ahead of time. By claiming he stole the election they can obstruct him over the next 4 years like they did the first time.
 
But, that is not going to work this time. Trump  has a plan and watch it play out. He has asked for a recount which they will fight. He had the real ballots marked before hand with a secret watermark, The forged ballots do not have this. So in the recount they will sort out the real ones from the fake one. Trump was prepared. He knew Biden was in China's pocket, His NSA told him what was going on at the Houston Chinese consulate. That is why he ordered it closed 6 months ago and there were reports of them burning papers in the yard when he announced the closure. That is where they were storing the forged ballots to turn Texas Blue on election day. What better place to store fake ballots then at a foreign consulate where you can not get a warrant to search because of diplomatic immunity. Because of closing this consulate Texas remained Red. So the intelligence agencies have been doing  their job behind the scenes.
 
So do not worry we've already won and we are just watching a movie play out. That is why Trump always says grab the popcorn and enjoy the show.

 

[DMAC]

Trump has no chance of getting anything done with WI or MI. PA is the best shot at having a court case go his way and that’s likely not gonna happen with the counties all saying they separated the  votes they had to sit aside. 

Might be wishful thinking on my part.  WI is only 20,000 vote difference atm.  Nevada is even closer although I doubt 6 votes up for grabs probably wont make of a difference.  PA will be interesting to watch because SCOTUS said put those aside.  Hopefully an audit takes place and recount.

Honestly just doing a recount isn't going to help Trump as much as others believe.  Auditing the ballots would be interesting.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Nice explanation of Benford's Law in this clip.  Applied to Biden's vote totals in the various 802 Milwaukee precincts,  there are way too may numbers starting with 5 and 6, not enough starting with 1 and 2, etc.  The Trump numbers do not have this problem, nor do the rest of Biden's numbers in the state, which suggests Milwaukee is a big problem.  
 
I never knew that forensic accounts routinely use this law to detect fraud, including election fraud, and this technique/law is admissible in court.  Apparently the people who fudged the numbers for Biden also did not know this.  Now it turns out Biden has the same problem in Michigan and other places while Trump does not.
 
Biden needs some better fraudsters more skilled in statistics!

 

[J.B. TexasEx]