Aggy's true rival

[RealtorHorn]

Are you bragging about talking $#@! to a random stranger? Fact of the matter is that I consider Texas our rival, but my reasoning for rooting for Texas' failure has much more to do with recruiting advantage than hatred over the school. I think we all forget that these are academic institutions doing a tremendous amount of legwork in bettering their community/state. Sure, athletics are fun and bring a little edge towards each school, but a university has alot more meaning to it than how good its' football program is. I'm hoping the LSU game can develop into a serious rivalry. It has started off similar to A&M-Texas in my lifetime, but LSU has shown signs of wavering and our program looks to be on the rise, maybe things will even out and some of my Aggie brethren can stop obsessing over being better than Texas and focus that energy on being better than everybody.

Will never happen.

 

[doc longhorn]

Are you bragging about talking $#@! to a random stranger? Fact of the matter is that I consider Texas our rival, but my reasoning for rooting for Texas' failure has much more to do with recruiting advantage than hatred over the school. I think we all forget that these are academic institutions doing a tremendous amount of legwork in bettering their community/state. Sure, athletics are fun and bring a little edge towards each school, but a university has alot more meaning to it than how good its' football program is. I'm hoping the LSU game can develop into a serious rivalry. It has started off similar to A&M-Texas in my lifetime, but LSU has shown signs of wavering and our program looks to be on the rise, maybe things will even out and some of my Aggie brethren can stop obsessing over being better than Texas and focus that energy on being better than everybody.

I'm happy to see an Aggie (a title I will gift you unless you start acting like an aggy) on this board. It took courage. Although I find it a bit incongruous, as lovers of Texas A&M were as rare as hens teeth, on Longhorn boards, before Johnny Manziel.

That being said, and as a reflection of my advanced years, it has been my observation that the "rivalry" between A&M and Texas was pretty well one sided. As opposed to the cult's brainwashing of it's Fish and A&M's whiney fight song, the UT freshmen were primarily invested in trying to find a place to park. I think some of us entertained the idea of a rivalry but, for the most part, we simply lost interest because of UT's domination of all sports. In other words, for A&M to be a true rival they had to keep up their end of the deal. They simply failed and now it's ho-hum

It's true that A&M has tried mightily to bait Texas into accepting A&M as a rival but, in the old days, they only real thing that got our attention were the cadets trying to poach our women. I noticed this baiting continues on, as evidenced by the road side bill boards taunting UT.

Alright, now that I have gotten the prerequisite smack talk out of the way, I need to ask you if A&M has been taking care of my money? Sending my daughter through your pre-med undergrad program and A&M's vet school, cost me a ridiculously obscene amount of money. It didn't stop after this either. I, also, had to pay another ridiculously obscene amount of money for her wedding - to ANOTHER Aggie vet and it was because she went to your damned school.

I resent this highly.

Finally, Mike, keep posting here. I like what you have posted, so far. Just remember to prepare your anus, on occasion. this IS a UT blog.

Hook 'em!

 

[UTematt]

TEXAS beat A&M 27-25 AT Kyle Field in the final TEXAS v A&M game in 2011 (ie. VERY recent history).

TEXAS had a 10-4 record against A&M under Mack Brown (ie. recent history).

TEXAS had a 76-37-5 record all-time v A&M (ie. history).

A&M had FOUR different head coaches while Mack Brown was at TEXAS.

A&M finished 4th in the SEC west & 3rd in the SEC west (5th and 7th overall in conf) in first two years there - and this was with a Heisman winner and three 1st rounders ....

 

[Randolph Duke]

I'm happy to see an Aggie (a title I will gift you unless you start acting like an aggy) on this board. It took courage. Although I find it a bit incongruous, as lovers of Texas A&M were as rare as hens teeth, on Longhorn boards, before Johnny Manziel.
That being said, and as a reflection of my advanced years, it has been my observation that the "rivalry" between A&M and Texas was pretty well one sided. As opposed to the cult's brainwashing of it's Fish and A&M's whiney fight song, the UT freshmen were primarily invested in trying to find a place to park. I think some of us entertained the idea of a rivalry but, for the most part, we simply lost interest because of UT's domination of all sports. In other words, for A&M to be a true rival they had to keep up their end of the deal. They simply failed and now it's ho-hum

It's true that A&M has tried mightily to bait Texas into accepting A&M as a rival but, in the old days, they only real thing that got our attention were the cadets trying to poach our women. I noticed this baiting continues on, as evidenced by the road side bill boards taunting UT.

Alright, now that I have gotten the prerequisite smack talk out of the way, I need to ask you if A&M has been taking care of my money? Sending my daughter through your pre-med undergrad program and A&M's vet school, cost me a ridiculously and obscene amount of money. It didn;t stop after this either. I, also, had to pay another ridiculously and obscene amount of money for her wedding - to ANOTHER Aggie vet and it was because she went to your damned school.

I resent this highly.

Finally, Mike, keep posting here. I like what you have posted, so far. Just remember to prepare your anus, on occasion. this IS a UT blog.

Hook 'em!

I don't have any real issue with aggy in general other than they just need to be objective about their history, who they are today and about what they want to be in the future.

The reality is that a&m was founded as a branch of UT, that in 1915 and 1919 constitutional amendments to separate the two schools were defeated by the voters and that aggy was, is and until something is done to change the constitution will be the little brother of UT. I can't believe that aggy nation isn't up in arms to get this changed.

Texas wasn't even ranked number one in the polls intra-season until 1941. By that time, aggy had multiple undefeated and unscored upon seasons as well as a (legitimate) national championship. Much like TCU who finished the 1938 season ranked number one in the nation, after their championship, they simply fell off a cliff and never managed to get back to their previous glory. Of course, aggy attributes this to some grand conspiracy lead by Texas. Playing the victim card is something seemingly driven into their psyche to this day.

Their dishonesty about the actual story of E. King Gill and the Dixie Classic is amazing to me. Aggys never pass up an opportunity to talk about their honor code but they refuse to vacate the wins the accumulated during the seasons they were on probation for cheating. That in itself is hypocritical.

The accomplishments of the university and its graduates are substantial enough to form the basis of their traditions and history. Why they choose to ignore their failures and embellish history to create a false impression of who they are is something I will never understand, other than their never ending need to try to match the accomplishments of UT and its graduates.

 

[Embrey]

the ram?

Such an underrated comment.

 

[longhorn16]

"but LSU has shown signs of wavering and our program looks to be on the rise" hmm the same LSU that has finished above A&M in divisional standings and defeated A&M two years in a row while making Johnny look rather pedestrian, has consistent top recruiting classes, and a coach that won a championship and the SEC multiple times? Not sure where your reasoning is on that one buddy. I know past doesn't predict the future but the future isn't looking too bad in Baton Rouge, Kevin Sumlin hasn't proven much beyond recruiting yet contrary to what his bloated salary and record with a former coaches player might make some perceive

 

[Agmaniacmike]

They haven't been national championship contenders in the past two years and continue to lose key juniors to the draft. On top of that, the staff turnover has been much more apparent in the last couple of years. They are losing top recruits out of their own state (albeit taking some of Texas' top ones) and I don't see a QB in the pipeline that will win a conference championship. We both have the same record over the past two years with them holding the head to head wins (Johnny's kryptonite). By no means am I saying that they will be terrible, but I think that these past two seasons (10 wins) are a letdown for them and I don't see any signs that their is help on the way. I don't think it is out of the question, given the foundation of classes that the Ags are beginning to stack, that we can be as competitive as LSU when they were pulling in those same classes (given we had the same record with far less overall talent). We'll see what happens, we are trending upwards, but games are won on the field, not in February.

 

[JimsTexas]

We constantly hear the BS about new playmates in the SEC, that Aggy has moved past Texas and has bigger fish to fry etc. It all sounds great and quotable, but we all know that true rivalry (and hatred) run far deeper.
Case in point: Last week work took me to the frozen wasteland of Yellowknife (way north Canada). I was hiding from the cold in a pub and a guy in an A&M jacket sat down near me at the bar. I couldn't help but say something, so I casually asked him "didn't you guys give up 50 points to a basketball school in your bowl game this year?".

The guy looks me over to figure out if I'm an ignorant local, or if I'm insulting him. I had no Texas gear on. I smirked a little bit and he instantly went into a Texas bashing rage calling out our record, how badly we lost our games this year and even lamented having traveled 2500 miles to wind up sitting across from a f*^king "tea sipper" - all before I even uttered the word "Texas" - but he knew... and it certainly never crossed his mind that I was from LSU.

Following about 10 minutes of heated debate the bartender moved us to opposite ends of the bar so everyone could get back to watching the hockey game!

Good fun, but the point is that rivalries can't be removed and recreated by the stroke of a pen, or through the insistence of school officials.

The aggies are not our main rival accept the aggies own mind I have been watching Longhorn football since 1957. For me it is and has always been OU. The aggie and Longhorn game don't have the national appeal that Texas/OU game has. In the Texas/a&m game the Longhorns are the only one with any kind of national appeal and the aggies have a very low national appeal for collage football fans.

I know the aggies will counter with they have a huge national following but I call that bull and most fans know that. This is just the way I feel.

JF is gone and the aggies will find the going tuff like Texas did with VY and CM and when they start to lose like they did this season with one of the best teams the aggies have had in some time. The aggies will find that they have over built there football stadium in there life long dream to always up one on Texas even if it anly 2 seats. Texas will always be Texas and build what they want without having the aggies in mind on how they building something. Texas will ignore there little brothers in CS as the aggies struggle to get what they want most acceptance really the aggies are a legend in there on minds. They sure are not a legend in anyone else's mind.

My friends y'all have a great day now fire away.

 

[Randolph Duke]

The aggies are not our main rival accept the aggies own mind I have been watching Longhorn football since 1957. For me it is and has always been OU. The aggie and Longhorn game don't have the national appeal that Texas/OU game has. In the Texas/a&m game the Longhorns are the only one with any kind of national appeal and the aggies have a very low national appeal for collage football fans.I know the aggies will counter with they have a huge national following but I call that bull and most fans know that. This is just the way I feel.

JF is gone and the aggies will find the going tuff like Texas did with VY and CM and when they start to lose like they did this season with one of the best teams the aggies have had in some time. The aggies will find that they have over built there football stadium in there life long dream to always up one on Texas even if it anly 2 seats. Texas will always be Texas and build what they want without having the aggies in mind on how they building something. Texas will ignore there little brothers in CS as the aggies struggle to get what they want most acceptance really the aggies are a legend in there on minds. They sure are not a legend in anyone else's mind.

My friends y'all have a great day now fire away.

The Texas/OU rivalry emerged as significant for a number of reasons. On thing that makes it important is because losing the game means more than just having to to listen to crap from the opposing fans. More often than not, the game has real meaning in the hops of both teams for their run at a national championship. Never in any of out lifetimes have the hopes of both teams to win a national title hinged on the outcome of the game. Even 30 years ago, the last time aggy was half-way decent, they were never contenders for a national championship. I may be wrong, but the last time both teams were highly ranked going into the game was 1941.

Until aggy can consistently create a situation where they play against one team and consistently beat them, knocking them out of a national championship run, they will not have an SEC rival, and creating such a situation will take at least 20 years, unless they are lucky. Bottom line is, if you want to have a rivalry, you first have to have a consistently decent team.