2023 Recruiting Board/Thread

[Eastexhorn]

Any chance we can get this " recruiting" forum back to recruiting? ?

Just as soon as wewin a few games.

Some say e need more top 50 or top 100. 

DCTF top 100 commitments so for. Texas 13 suprise Baylor 11, TCU 9  OU and A$M 6 each.

Clemson and N D 3 each Ohio St. 1 so the gap is closing at least for Texas H S. players.

 

[Rotty22]

Quit going 5-7 and this won't be a problem. But as we know we suck at winning games. 

Winning is hard

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Just as soon as wewin a few games.

Some say e need more top 50 or top 100. 

DCTF top 100 commitments so for. Texas 13 suprise Baylor 11, TCU 9  OU and A$M 6 each.

Clemson and N D 3 each Ohio St. 1 so the gap is closing at least for Texas H S. players.

We're talking about on a national basis. 

The teams who compete for the playoffs and national championships have something in common. They sign the most top 50, top 100, and top 200 players. Sark has made some progress in his first 2 years with this but there is still considerable ground to make up.

 

[Eastexhorn]

Only looked at Texas H S players. Agree discussion was about national players. Proably Texas top 50 are in national top 200. Might take time tocheck.

 

[TFloss32]

https://247sports.com/player/miles-mcvay-46080187/

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Only looked at Texas H S players. Agree discussion was about national players. Proably Texas top 50 are in national top 200. Might take time tocheck.

Texas has 8 players in the national top 50 high school players, 17 players in the top 100, 36 players in the  top 200, 53 players in the top 300, 67 players in the top 400, and 84 players in the top 500. 

Per the ON3 Consensus rankings.  

 

[TFloss32]

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[North Texas Golfer]

5 minutes ago, TFloss32 said:

This makes 13 of their 19 commits ranked inside the top 200. 

For a little perspective, we have 7 commits out of 22 ranked inside the top 200. That's how good Alabama is recruiting this year. 

 

[Baron]

View attachment 5820Winning is hard

You forgot "really, really"

 

[North Texas Golfer]

2 minutes ago, TFloss32 said:

Melissa is just down Hwy 5 from me and my granddaughter plays basketball there. Melissa has this kid and another kid being highly recruited, Nigel Smith, who is ranked 57th in the national rankings for 2024. And still another OL who will be a sophomore who is getting some attention already after starting as a freshmen. 

 

[Eastexhorn]

If Horns got half of the 36 ranked in top 200 gap would about closed. Then we would not have 3 big OL. Or Walton.

 

[BWilk55]

This makes 13 of their 19 commits ranked inside the top 200. 

For a little perspective, we have 7 commits out of 22 ranked inside the top 200. That's how good Alabama is recruiting this year. 

I saw it posted after Baxter that Texas has the most players in the top 70 for 2023 class. Now, between 70 and 200 we only have 1 more player, so depending on your cut-off you can make it look good or bad.

We do have a lot of guys in the 200s for a total of 14 in the top 300 (Tre Wisner just outside at 314). Compared to Bama who also has 14 in the top 300. 

Bama is a tough school to be compared to and I do agree that they have more quality across the board but Texas is not far off at this point. 

 

[TexExSpur]

That sir, is what we call moving the goal post.  We still have a long way to go to be ready for the move.

 

[Wayne]

That sir, is what we call moving the goal post.  We still have a long way to go to be ready for the move.

You are comparing us to the best team in the country and saying we aren't ready for the SEC.  You are arguing apples and oranges.  Nobody except Georgia recruits like Alabama.  So maybe we aren't ready for a SEC championship but that doesn't mean we aren't ready for the move.  We had a top 5 class last year and will probably have a top 5 class next year.  We may not be able to compete with Alabama in 2 years but we could be if we get another class like that and we build the trenches and the coaches develop the players they recruit.

Turnarounds can be fast once they start.  Ask Alabama.  They had a missing decade then hired Saban went 7-6 in first year and then...

I'm not saying Sark is going to turn it around.  Just that a turnaround can happen fast.  

 

[North Texas Golfer]

I saw it posted after Baxter that Texas has the most players in the top 70 for 2023 class. Now, between 70 and 200 we only have 1 more player, so depending on your cut-off you can make it look good or bad.

We do have a lot of guys in the 200s for a total of 14 in the top 300 (Tre Wisner just outside at 314). Compared to Bama who also has 14 in the top 300. 

Bama is a tough school to be compared to and I do agree that they have more quality across the board but Texas is not far off at this point. 

I started looking at these type of numbers because I got curious as to what the gap was between Texas and the elite schools when it came to recruiting. It's one thing to say we had the #4 ranked class but I wanted to see how far away we were from the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st ranked classes.

I picked the 6 teams who have made the most playoff appearances in recent years Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Oklahoma along with Texas and Texas A&M. Nothing magical about the numbers I picked top 50, top 100, top 200 and top 300. Just the way I picked to look at it. And I did it primarily as a % of total commits rather than number of commits. To me, a team with 6 commits out of 18 in the top100 is doing better than a team with 6 commits out of 24 in the top 100, if that makes sense. 

Did this for the last 5 years, 2018 to 2022 and for 2023. Then I even have it narrowed down for just the 2022 and 2023 classes so I could see how Sark alone compares. Makes the picture a little clearer for me plus it eliminates the "opinon" part.  

And I used the On3 Consensus rankings for this since it equally weights all 4 recruiting services. 

 

[North Texas Golfer]

You are comparing us to the best team in the country and saying we aren't ready for the SEC.  You are arguing apples and oranges.  Nobody except Georgia recruits like Alabama.  So maybe we aren't ready for a SEC championship but that doesn't mean we aren't ready for the move.  We had a top 5 class last year and will probably have a top 5 class next year.  We may not be able to compete with Alabama in 2 years but we could be if we get another class like that and we build the trenches and the coaches develop the players they recruit.

Turnarounds can be fast once they start.  Ask Alabama.  They had a missing decade then hired Saban went 7-6 in first year and then...

I'm not saying Sark is going to turn it around.  Just that a turnaround can happen fast.  

Recruiting wise, I think we probably compare pretty favorably to any team in the SEC other than Alabama and Georgia. 

 

[Austin Horn]

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Everything is hard here 

 

[TexExSpur]

You are comparing us to the best team in the country and saying we aren't ready for the SEC.  You are arguing apples and oranges.  Nobody except Georgia recruits like Alabama.  So maybe we aren't ready for a SEC championship but that doesn't mean we aren't ready for the move.  We had a top 5 class last year and will probably have a top 5 class next year.  We may not be able to compete with Alabama in 2 years but we could be if we get another class like that and we build the trenches and the coaches develop the players they recruit.

Turnarounds can be fast once they start.  Ask Alabama.  They had a missing decade then hired Saban went 7-6 in first year and then...

I'm not saying Sark is going to turn it around.  Just that a turnaround can happen fast.  

Recruiting wise, they just started pulling the large humans they need in the last cycle.  I think they'll be ready by the time the move occurs, but I'm not a paper tiger guy.  This team has been lackluster for far to long to get excited about over  recruiting classes until they put it together on the field.  Championships are the point, nothing else matters. 

 

[RickyFlair]

Everything is hard here 

 

[DBut82]

Melissa is just down Hwy 5 from me and my granddaughter plays basketball there. Melissa has this kid and another kid being highly recruited, Nigel Smith, who is ranked 57th in the national rankings for 2024. And still another OL who will be a sophomore who is getting some attention already after starting as a freshmen. 

Denison is in the same district this year and I hope to make that game. And have it penciled in as a loss for the Yellow Jackets lol