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Slimer said:
Hard to believe Blake would have beef with Herman after he put Luke on scholarship.
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He doesn't.  Texas has recruited the Brock's as well as they can.  They've left no stone unturned.  Alabama has Saban, players get rings and linemen go to the pros.  More Than Texas.  Much more.  And there is more that I can't divulge and it doesn't have anything to do with under the table money.  If I talked about what it is I could be open to a lawsuit, so....

However, Texas is still in it, but Bama is a monster.

Don't give up yet.

 
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doc longhorn said:
He doesn't.  Texas has recruited the Brock's as well as they can.  They've left no stone unturned.  Alabama has Saban, players get rings and linemen go to the pros.  More Than Texas.  Much more.  And there is more that I can't divulge and it doesn't have anything to do with under the table money.  If I talked about what it is I could be open to a lawsuit, so....

However, Texas is still in it, but Bama is a monster.

Don't give up yet.
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I have a question for you Doc, I get that Bama and Saban have established themselves over the years and they should be viewed top tier, but does the trend / trajectory for UT OL come into play here a little.  What I mean is, Bama regularly gets high 4 and 5* OL and they should be drafted, but UT has a 3* OL projected in the 1st rd and another in Kerstetter that will most likely be drafted?  Hand and Herman are just now starting to see returns on their development. In a couple more years you could see additional lineman drafted from their development program.  To me that's trending upward.  When was the last time Texas had a 5* OL recruit? Pat Hudson was near that and that was just unfortunate for the young man.  Tyler Johnson is the highest rated OL in the bunch, but he hasn't had the time yet.  It would be more worrisome if Herman and Hand had multiple 5* recruits that didn't develop. It just seems that time is working against UT at this point for this recruitment.  If Tommy and James are as good as they're being rated, I don't think UT would stunt their development and prevent them from being drafted, at least Tommy.  I think Cosmi and Kerstetter prove that.

 
texbound said:
I have a question for you Doc, I get that Bama and Saban have established themselves over the years and they should be viewed top tier, but does the trend / trajectory for UT OL come into play here a little.  What I mean is, Bama regularly gets high 4 and 5* OL and they should be drafted, but UT has a 3* OL projected in the 1st rd and another in Kerstetter that will most likely be drafted?  Hand and Herman are just now starting to see returns on their development. In a couple more years you could see additional lineman drafted from their development program.  To me that's trending upward.  When was the last time Texas had a 5* OL recruit? Pat Hudson was near that and that was just unfortunate for the young man.  Tyler Johnson is the highest rated OL in the bunch, but he hasn't had the time yet.  It would be more worrisome if Herman and Hand had multiple 5* recruits that didn't develop. It just seems that time is working against UT at this point for this recruitment.  If Tommy and James are as good as they're being rated, I don't think UT would stunt their development and prevent them from being drafted, at least Tommy.  I think Cosmi and Kerstetter prove that.
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You're a Longhorn and I am a Longhorn.  We both think Texas can offer as much as Alabama.  But the truth is, today, we can't.  Let's not get delusional and avoid reality.

Tommy is a super blue chip - a rarity for a lineman.  The classification is usually reserved for a "skill" player projected to be a game changer - ala Earl Campbell or Vince Young. In addition gaining Tommy's signature gets you a twofer with James.

Now, put yourself in his dads place.  Even though you have burnt orange flowing through your veins, as an ex-pro you understand the game is no longer a game and is now a business.  You want your sons to have the best platform possible to launch them into a lucrative business.  Bama consistantly does this and Texas has not.  Them's the cold, hard facts and as a responsible parent you must forego your love for Texas and examine what is best for your sons.

Once you take off your burnt orange glasses, you can see why Bama should be called a favorite.  Bama solidly checks all the boxes.

but we'll see.  Herman is a tricky devil.  and I will stack our alumni against Bama's alumni any day.

 
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texbound said:
I have a question for you Doc, I get that Bama and Saban have established themselves over the years and they should be viewed top tier, but does the trend / trajectory for UT OL come into play here a little.  What I mean is, Bama regularly gets high 4 and 5* OL and they should be drafted, but UT has a 3* OL projected in the 1st rd and another in Kerstetter that will most likely be drafted?  Hand and Herman are just now starting to see returns on their development. In a couple more years you could see additional lineman drafted from their development program.  To me that's trending upward.  When was the last time Texas had a 5* OL recruit? Pat Hudson was near that and that was just unfortunate for the young man.  Tyler Johnson is the highest rated OL in the bunch, but he hasn't had the time yet.  It would be more worrisome if Herman and Hand had multiple 5* recruits that didn't develop. It just seems that time is working against UT at this point for this recruitment.  If Tommy and James are as good as they're being rated, I don't think UT would stunt their development and prevent them from being drafted, at least Tommy.  I think Cosmi and Kerstetter prove that.
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Perhaps Saben carries around a copy of the Texas OU game from last year?  That would give any O-lineman pause.  

 
83Dee said:
Odd since a brother is on the team??
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I think the issue is with the dad, not the brothers. Thats just what I've heard. And yes, odd given that he's an alumni and former player.

 
Sirhornsalot said:
I think the issue is with the dad, not the brothers. Thats just what I've heard. And yes, odd given that he's an alumni and former player.
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Any chance that Dad being a former stud OT himself, isn't crazy about Hand or Hand's coaching technique for O-Linemen?  Not sure if this is what Doc is alluding too, but I think the earlier point is valid in that we haven't exactly been flooded with a ton of 4* and 5* linemen that we aren't developing.  We're taking some 3* and 4* kids and getting them in the league like Connor and will soon have Cosmi and Kerstetter there too.

 
I found this interesting.  Back in 2015 Blake had this to say to 247:

"Brockermeyer: My wife and I met in high school and we both went to UT. Three of my sons are still playing football. My son that’s a senior is out with a concussion right now. All of them are huge Longhorns fans and hopefully they all go there. Odds are probably one or two of them will play college football or baseball, hopefully at UT."

Blake is an asst. football coach at a high school in Fort Worth.  There is rumor talk he may be considered for a college coaching job.  Hmmmmm!

 
Texas2725 said:
Any chance that Dad being a former stud OT himself, isn't crazy about Hand or Hand's coaching technique for O-Linemen?  Not sure if this is what Doc is alluding too, but I think the earlier point is valid in that we haven't exactly been flooded with a ton of 4* and 5* linemen that we aren't developing.  We're taking some 3* and 4* kids and getting them in the league like Connor and will soon have Cosmi and Kerstetter there too.
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I don't see how Blake can think Hand isn't a developer of OL.  He's done it at every stop and the only 2 OL Herman took in his 1st class, one is projected top 10 pick and the other could end up going in a decent round as well.

 
Texas2725 said:
Any chance that Dad being a former stud OT himself, isn't crazy about Hand or Hand's coaching technique for O-Linemen?  Not sure if this is what Doc is alluding too, but I think the earlier point is valid in that we haven't exactly been flooded with a ton of 4* and 5* linemen that we aren't developing.  We're taking some 3* and 4* kids and getting them in the league like Connor and will soon have Cosmi and Kerstetter there too.
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No, I think Doc is right about the why. Connor was a once in a while thing so you really can't use that as ammo here. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Hand hasn't been here very long and only now is seeing his recruits become players. So the jury is still out on him somewhat.

The best thing that can happen is for Texas to beat LSU and OU and beat OSU for the conference championship, and hopefully a berth in the CFP. Our coaching staff quietly thinks this is not only possible, but probable.

We're not out of it yet. But we have to deliver to get them. It wouldn't hurt is Bama faltered a time or two this season.

 
After some digging, it appears that a player now being rumored to be trending Texas (will commit soon) is Shemar Turner. 

I was actually trying to find out about an OL committed elsewhere who has been talking seriously with Texas recently. No luck there.

 
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