J.B. TexasEx
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To those that believe Biden won this election, stop calling for Trump to give up any legal action and accept defeat. If Biden did indeed win, the facts will bear that out in time.
Does Trump have a huge hill to climb? Absolutely. Are the odds in his favor? I would say no. Do I support his right to pursue his claims of fraud? Yes. Too much smoke not to be some fire. But is the fire big enough to cook Biden? We will know soon enough. Until Biden has officially been declared President Elect, he is not.
I would expect Trump will, in fact I personally demand, he concede and help the Biden administration transition as smoothly as possible, the second Biden has been officially declared President Elect.
I will make the same demand of the Biden camp should fraud be declared by the courts and Trump named President Elect. I would expect, and personally demand, the Biden camp to fully support the next term of the Trump presidency. The Constitution is bigger than both Trump and Biden combined.
Does Trump have a huge hill to climb? Absolutely. Are the odds in his favor? I would say no. Do I support his right to pursue his claims of fraud? Yes. Too much smoke not to be some fire. But is the fire big enough to cook Biden? We will know soon enough. Until Biden has officially been declared President Elect, he is not.
I would expect Trump will, in fact I personally demand, he concede and help the Biden administration transition as smoothly as possible, the second Biden has been officially declared President Elect.
I will make the same demand of the Biden camp should fraud be declared by the courts and Trump named President Elect. I would expect, and personally demand, the Biden camp to fully support the next term of the Trump presidency. The Constitution is bigger than both Trump and Biden combined.
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dillohorn? where are you? Is this a post of a 12 yr old. Don't be a hypocrite...The blue wave
Hahaha come on man. You expect him to help “transition as smoothly as possible”.. that’s already gone out of the window. The transition period is relatively small. Even if Trump doesn’t want to concede and keep up his charade of voter fraud, he would have been pushing the GSA to give Biden the funds needed to help with his transition. If a person truly cared more about our country than themselves, that would be patriotic and right thing to do. The GSA starting the transition process doesn’t have any legal standing on the final results of the election but it does mean he can have the money to help with a smooth transition. It means he can start getting classified briefings to make sure he’s up to speed when all of this plays out. He means he can meet with officials to go over a smooth COVID vaccine rollout. It means we don’t have to worry about he nation being vulnerable because the next president didn’t have the intel on what’s going on. I mean the 9-11 task force said one of the reasons it occurred was due to the long transition from Clinton to Bush. We are risking our national security and the security of our troops and ambassadors stationed overseas. God forbidden anything happens early in Biden’s term. I’m sure Trump people will put the blame on Biden not wanting to accept or admit Trump’s pettiness and pushing the GSA not to start the transition will have played a part in it. So yeah Trump can howl at the moon. But let’s call out that a smooth transition isn’t gonna happen. Trump has shown that. And it’s dangerous and unpatriotic. So spare me on what Biden should do. Oh and the courts cannot name Trump President Elect. Oh and they would have to prove fraud in at least 5 states on a level that changed the election. That is impossible. So Biden won’t be conceding. But I ask you this... What happens if the courts say those votes don’t count in PA & MI. Then the Biden campaign starting bringing cases against the results in NC, FL, TX, the VA congressional district Trump won, etc. You would have to support their claims if they said they had proof of irregularities. Because we are suppose to let the candidate use their legal actions and let the results play out. And if that plays out a month or so like this is, well you couldn’t complain. We would be required to let Biden and his campaign file as cases as possible and let those play out. If they appeal them, it’s their right. And then you know what happens.. we have President Nancy Pelosi lol. Will that happen, no. Biden will be sworn in on January 20, and if everything is decent with COVID I will be there to see it. And we will just add this petty transition to the fact that Trump lost the popular vote twice, has been impeached, and lost the popular vote by 6 million votes. That is an impressive resume for worst president campaign in history. ?
If the Biden campaign has proof of fraud in any state they should bring it to light. Our county needs fair and open elections.
I want Trump to win this election. No secret there. But I want a fair and fraud free election even more. Regardless of outcome.
I want Trump to win this election. No secret there. But I want a fair and fraud free election even more. Regardless of outcome.
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If the Trump campaign has evidence of fraud they should show it in court. They have yet to do that. The Republican judge in PA scolded them for their lack of evidence. Their lawyers have routinely said to judges they’ve seen no evidence of fraud. Conspiracies, hearsay testimonies, and feelings isn’t evidence. We’ve seen no evidence of fraud. The SOS for every state have said they’ve seen no fraud. Our country had a free and fair election. Biden won. Joe Biden is President Elect. He will be sworn into office in January. No amount of crying from Trump or frivolous lawsuits will change that. The voters have spoken. People will have to accept that or as they tell Dems, they can live the country along with Trump. I mean that’s what he told us he would do if he lost. Bye bye. ?
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“Drop and Roll” - How The 2020 Election Was Stolen From Donald Trump
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Don't know how many of you watch Dr. Ed Young or attend his service on Sunday, but he alluded to this today. Wonderful sermon and message on our country's division today.
It comes on again at 10:30 on channel 11 in Houston. I believe it will be the same message.
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Michiganders Erupt After Their Maskless Lawmakers Sip Dom Perignon At Trump Hotel
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/shirkey-chatfield-michigan-dom-perignon-trump-050254302.html
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/shirkey-chatfield-michigan-dom-perignon-trump-050254302.html
????????? expect Michigan law doesn’t allow for a ballot audit until after the results have been certified. So that’s kinda impossible. I guess we will see tomorrow. PA & MI are set to certify their results then. The Michigan GOP and RNC have no standing to ask for a pause & an audit. They would be asking for special treatment. The laws are the laws. Want an audit, wait until the results are certified and then you can have your audit. It’s that simple. If you want to stop the certification, provide fraud occurred by tomorrow.
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