Hermann needs to go

[Mitch Lovell]

Lmao not what I was getting at and have had enough arguing with people that are for or against them you do you. Fire Herman Hire Urban.

 

[Mitch Lovell]

And no I didn’t go out while having symptoms as I’m not a dumbass ? it’s called working in retail and going to college you get exposure dipshits 

 

[Baron]

And no I didn’t go out while having symptoms as I’m not a dumbass ? it’s called working in retail and going to college you get exposure dipshits 

Who knows these days? There's a lot of dumbassery in this country.

 

[Mitch Lovell]

Yes there is no doubt. #Herman2Michigan

 

[North Texas Golfer]

He turned Ohio State from being irrelevant to being in the national title conversation every year.

I think OSU was disappointed in the Zack Smith thing, but they weren't happy to see him go. No.

And if you think a three-game suspension defines a career, then I'll just leave your posts alone as they don't seem very well thought out.

I think you are getting a little carried away with you love for Urban Meyer. Ohio State was relevant before Urban became their coach and they continue to relevant after he left. 

Jeez man, Jim Tressel won a national championship at Ohio State and finished runner-up twice from 2001 to 2010.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I think you are getting a little carried away with you love for Urban Meyer. Ohio State was relevant before Urban became their coach and they continue to relevant after he left. 

Jeez man, Jim Tressel won a national championship at Ohio State and finished runner-up twice from 2001 to 2010.

They were 6-7 under Fickell. Meyer took over and took them to 12-0 in his first year.

Yea, I'm just a love-struck puppy. lol

You mention Tressel's NC, but don't mention the 8-5, 7-4 and 6-6 that came before it.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

From CTJ, a sort of insider who frequents some other boards. . . .he posted this Friday.

"apologies if I'm repeating shit that has already been put out there. Cooks probably commits this weekend. Also, probably something coming out shortly about the complete and utter stupidity, arrogance, and sloth being exhibited by Herman and Hand when it comes to OL recruiting. They've utterly buttf##ked some layups in the DFW and are showing no signs of righting that if either manages to hold on to their jobs."

 

[Mitch Lovell]

Was some of that news on IT this week.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

And no I didn’t go out while having symptoms as I’m not a dumbass ? it’s called working in retail and going to college you get exposure dipshits 

Thanks for confirming what many of us already know about Covid and the efficacy of masks.

Even your MF mask didn't work. We've got a whole thread dedicated to this topic, too. Read up

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

They were 6-7 under Fickell. Meyer took over and took them to 12-0 in his first year.

Yea, I'm just a love-struck puppy. lol

You mention Tressel's NC, but don't mention the 8-5, 7-4 and 6-6 that came before it.

Reads like Tressel is a marginally better cake baker than Charlie F'n Strong

 

[primal defense]

They were 6-7 under Fickell. Meyer took over and took them to 12-0 in his first year.

Yea, I'm just a love-struck puppy. lol

You mention Tressel's NC, but don't mention the 8-5, 7-4 and 6-6 that came before it.

Lol. You must be thinking about some other dude named Tressel. You weren't looking at the former Ohio State coach. named Tressel





Ohio State Buckeyes (Big Ten Conference) (2001–2010)




2001


Ohio State


7–5


5–3


3rd


L Outback


 


 




2002


Ohio State


14–0


8–0


T–1st


W Fiesta†


1


1




2003


Ohio State


11–2


6–2


T–2nd


W Fiesta†


4


4




2004


Ohio State


8–4


4–4


T–5th


W Alamo


19


20




2005


Ohio State


10–2


7–1


T–1st


W Fiesta†


4


4




2006


Ohio State


12–1


8–0


1st


L BCS NCG†


2


2




2007


Ohio State


11–2


7–1


1st


L BCS NCG†


5


5




2008


Ohio State


10–3


7–1


T–1st


L Fiesta†


9


9




2009


Ohio State


11–2


7–1


1st


W Rose†


5


5




2010


Ohio State


12–1


7–1


T–1st


W Sugar†


5


5







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tressel#Head_coaching_record

 

[North Texas Golfer]

They were 6-7 under Fickell. Meyer took over and took them to 12-0 in his first year.

Yea, I'm just a love-struck puppy. lol

You mention Tressel's NC, but don't mention the 8-5, 7-4 and 6-6 that came before it.

You're right. Ohio State was irrelevant from 2001-2010. Never mind that they made more championship game appearances than any other school during that period. 

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

 

[tejasrulz]

Didn't Tressel get fired because of a losing record vs Michigan? Or was that Cooper? Too lazy to do the research.

 

[primal defense]

Didn't Tressel get fired because of a losing record vs Michigan? Or was that Cooper? Too lazy to do the research.

NCAA violations and resignation[SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]


On March 8, 2011, Ohio State suspended Tressel for the first two games of the 2011 season and fined him $250,000 for failing to notify the school of NCAA violations involving Ohio State football players. The players had a financial arrangement with Edward Rife, owner of a local tattoo parlor, who was at the time under investigation by the FBI for drug trafficking.[36] The arrangement, which resulted in five Ohio State football players being suspended, involved trading championship rings, jerseys, and other football-related awards for tattoos. That arrangement was a violation of NCAA rules, and would have rendered the players, including star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, ineligible to play for portions of the 2010 season.

Tressel was first notified of the arrangement in April 2010 when he received several e-mails from Chris Cicero, a local attorney and former Ohio State walk-on football player. Tressel never forwarded the e-mails, nor the information contained in them about potential violations, to his school's compliance office or the NCAA. Although Tressel had held the position of Athletic Director at Youngstown State, Tressel's excuse was that he did not know whom to contact when he learned of the alleged violations. Tressel also later claimed not to have acted because of concerns about the confidentiality of the information, yet he immediately forwarded the first e-mail to Terrelle Pryor's mentor.

On December 7, 2010, Ohio State was notified by the Department of Justice that it had in its possession many items of Ohio State sports memorabilia seized from Edward Rife's tattoo parlor. In the ensuing investigation, Tressel was questioned by Ohio State on December 16 concerning his knowledge of the activities disclosed by the Justice Department (the sale of rings, jerseys, and football memorabilia to Rife). Tressel denied any specific knowledge of the violations, and claimed that he could not remember who had given him the vague information. A week later Tressel exchanged text messages with Cicero, the attorney who had originally notified him of the activities back in April. Tressel verified that the Justice Department matter involved the same players and issues as the April e-mails. Tressel remained silent, his long-time knowledge of the violations (and his subsequent intentional fielding of ineligible players throughout the season) was only revealed when Ohio State inadvertently discovered the April 2010 Cicero e-mails in an unrelated search in January 2011.[37][38][39]

On March 17, 2011, it was announced that Tressel requested Ohio State Athletic Director Gene Smith that he extend his own suspension to the same number of games as his players. Smith accepted the request, and, as a result, Tressel would have missed the first five games of the 2011 season.[40]

 ​

Ohio State President Gordon Gee assured the public that Tressel would not lose his job over the matter.[42] On April 25, 2011, the NCAA accused Tressel of withholding information and lying to keep Buckeyes players on the field. In a "notice of allegations" sent to Ohio State, the NCAA charged that Tressel's actions were considered "potential major violations" which had "permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics while ineligible." The report also said he "failed to comport himself ... (with) honesty and integrity" and that he lied when he filled out a compliance form in September stating that he had no knowledge of NCAA violations by any of his players.[43] Tressel later stated that he lied about the violations because he didn't want to jeopardize the FBI's investigation against Rife and also feared for his players' safety. Despite his stated safety concerns, Tressel only briefly spoke with two players, never inquired of the two if other players were involved and also in danger, nor in his discussions with players ever mentioned Mr. Rife, the tattoo parlor, or the selling of Ohio State merchandise.[44] The NCAA's report explicitly refuted the credibility of this excuse.[44]

Tressel resigned as Ohio State's head football coach on May 30, 2011.[45] Three days earlier, Sports Illustrated reported that it had found evidence that the memorabilia-for-tattoos scandal dated back to at least the 2002 national championship season, and as many as 28 players were involved. Early on the morning of Memorial Day, Gee and Smith called Tressel back from his vacation in Florida and asked for his resignation.[46][47] The Columbus Dispatch reported that Gee had appointed a special committee to examine the scandal's impact on the school. It also reported that Ohio State had been looking to cut ties with Tressel for several weeks.[48] Tressel said in a statement released by the university, "After meeting with university officials, we agreed that it is in the best interest of Ohio State that I resign as head football coach. The appreciation that Ellen and I have for the Buckeye Nation is immeasurable." Luke Fickell, previously co-defensive coordinator and assistant head coach, served as head coach for the 2011 football season.[49]

Tressel left Ohio State as the third-winningest coach in school history, behind Woody Hayes and John Cooper. However, on July 8, 2011, Ohio State vacated all of its wins from the 2010 season and placed the football program on two years' probation.[50]

On December 20, 2011 the NCAA placed Ohio State on an additional one year's probation and banned it from postseason play in 2012 for numerous major violations under Tressel's watch. It also imposed a five-year show-cause penalty on Tressel, which means any NCAA member that wants to hire him would have to "show cause" for why it shouldn't be sanctioned for hiring him, and could face severe penalties if he commits any further violations during that time. The order stood until December 19, 2016; given past precedent, this likely had the effect of blackballing Tressel from the coaching ranks until the 2017 season. Had Tressel coached during this period, he would have been suspended for the first five games of the regular season, plus any conference championship game or bowl game.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Lol. You must be thinking about some other dude named Tressel. You weren't looking at the former Ohio State coach. named Tressel





Ohio State Buckeyes (Big Ten Conference) (2001–2010)




2001


Ohio State


7–5


5–3


3rd


L Outback


 


 




2002


Ohio State


14–0


8–0


T–1st


W Fiesta†


1


1




2003


Ohio State


11–2


6–2


T–2nd


W Fiesta†


4


4




2004


Ohio State


8–4


4–4


T–5th


W Alamo


19


20




2005


Ohio State


10–2


7–1


T–1st


W Fiesta†


4


4




2006


Ohio State


12–1


8–0


1st


L BCS NCG†


2


2




2007


Ohio State


11–2


7–1


1st


L BCS NCG†


5


5




2008


Ohio State


10–3


7–1


T–1st


L Fiesta†


9


9




2009


Ohio State


11–2


7–1


1st


W Rose†


5


5




2010


Ohio State


12–1


7–1


T–1st


W Sugar†


5


5







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tressel#Head_coaching_record

I'm taking that you didn't grasp the point. Okay.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

You're right. Ohio State was irrelevant from 2001-2010. Never mind that they made more championship game appearances than any other school during that period. 

Nothing I said in my post was non-factual. And not you or PD have even tried to discount it. You just throw up 2001-2010. Yippee.

Urban took 5-7 and turned it into 12-0 in his first year.

Are we so used to that happening here that it's just oblivious to us now? lol

When you're 5-7, YOU ARE IRRELEVANT.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

NCAA violations and resignation[SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]


On March 8, 2011, Ohio State suspended Tressel for the first two games of the 2011 season and fined him $250,000 for failing to notify the school of NCAA violations involving Ohio State football players. The players had a financial arrangement with Edward Rife, owner of a local tattoo parlor, who was at the time under investigation by the FBI for drug trafficking.[36] The arrangement, which resulted in five Ohio State football players being suspended, involved trading championship rings, jerseys, and other football-related awards for tattoos. That arrangement was a violation of NCAA rules, and would have rendered the players, including star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, ineligible to play for portions of the 2010 season.

Tressel was first notified of the arrangement in April 2010 when he received several e-mails from Chris Cicero, a local attorney and former Ohio State walk-on football player. Tressel never forwarded the e-mails, nor the information contained in them about potential violations, to his school's compliance office or the NCAA. Although Tressel had held the position of Athletic Director at Youngstown State, Tressel's excuse was that he did not know whom to contact when he learned of the alleged violations. Tressel also later claimed not to have acted because of concerns about the confidentiality of the information, yet he immediately forwarded the first e-mail to Terrelle Pryor's mentor.

On December 7, 2010, Ohio State was notified by the Department of Justice that it had in its possession many items of Ohio State sports memorabilia seized from Edward Rife's tattoo parlor. In the ensuing investigation, Tressel was questioned by Ohio State on December 16 concerning his knowledge of the activities disclosed by the Justice Department (the sale of rings, jerseys, and football memorabilia to Rife). Tressel denied any specific knowledge of the violations, and claimed that he could not remember who had given him the vague information. A week later Tressel exchanged text messages with Cicero, the attorney who had originally notified him of the activities back in April. Tressel verified that the Justice Department matter involved the same players and issues as the April e-mails. Tressel remained silent, his long-time knowledge of the violations (and his subsequent intentional fielding of ineligible players throughout the season) was only revealed when Ohio State inadvertently discovered the April 2010 Cicero e-mails in an unrelated search in January 2011.[37][38][39]

On March 17, 2011, it was announced that Tressel requested Ohio State Athletic Director Gene Smith that he extend his own suspension to the same number of games as his players. Smith accepted the request, and, as a result, Tressel would have missed the first five games of the 2011 season.[40]

 ​

Ohio State President Gordon Gee assured the public that Tressel would not lose his job over the matter.[42] On April 25, 2011, the NCAA accused Tressel of withholding information and lying to keep Buckeyes players on the field. In a "notice of allegations" sent to Ohio State, the NCAA charged that Tressel's actions were considered "potential major violations" which had "permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics while ineligible." The report also said he "failed to comport himself ... (with) honesty and integrity" and that he lied when he filled out a compliance form in September stating that he had no knowledge of NCAA violations by any of his players.[43] Tressel later stated that he lied about the violations because he didn't want to jeopardize the FBI's investigation against Rife and also feared for his players' safety. Despite his stated safety concerns, Tressel only briefly spoke with two players, never inquired of the two if other players were involved and also in danger, nor in his discussions with players ever mentioned Mr. Rife, the tattoo parlor, or the selling of Ohio State merchandise.[44] The NCAA's report explicitly refuted the credibility of this excuse.[44]

Tressel resigned as Ohio State's head football coach on May 30, 2011.[45] Three days earlier, Sports Illustrated reported that it had found evidence that the memorabilia-for-tattoos scandal dated back to at least the 2002 national championship season, and as many as 28 players were involved. Early on the morning of Memorial Day, Gee and Smith called Tressel back from his vacation in Florida and asked for his resignation.[46][47] The Columbus Dispatch reported that Gee had appointed a special committee to examine the scandal's impact on the school. It also reported that Ohio State had been looking to cut ties with Tressel for several weeks.[48] Tressel said in a statement released by the university, "After meeting with university officials, we agreed that it is in the best interest of Ohio State that I resign as head football coach. The appreciation that Ellen and I have for the Buckeye Nation is immeasurable." Luke Fickell, previously co-defensive coordinator and assistant head coach, served as head coach for the 2011 football season.[49]

Tressel left Ohio State as the third-winningest coach in school history, behind Woody Hayes and John Cooper. However, on July 8, 2011, Ohio State vacated all of its wins from the 2010 season and placed the football program on two years' probation.[50]

On December 20, 2011 the NCAA placed Ohio State on an additional one year's probation and banned it from postseason play in 2012 for numerous major violations under Tressel's watch. It also imposed a five-year show-cause penalty on Tressel, which means any NCAA member that wants to hire him would have to "show cause" for why it shouldn't be sanctioned for hiring him, and could face severe penalties if he commits any further violations during that time. The order stood until December 19, 2016; given past precedent, this likely had the effect of blackballing Tressel from the coaching ranks until the 2017 season. Had Tressel coached during this period, he would have been suspended for the first five games of the regular season, plus any conference championship game or bowl game.

So he cheated. lol

Glad we got that out of the way. You could have stopped with the first graph before going long-cat on us.

 

[Ntx dog]

Nothing I said in my post was non-factual. And not you or PD have even tried to discount it. You just throw up 2001-2010. Yippee.

Urban took 5-7 and turned it into 12-0 in his first year.

Are we so used to that happening here that it's just oblivious to us now? lol

When you're 5-7, YOU ARE IRRELEVANT.

This!!

 

[primal defense]

I'm taking that you didn't grasp the point. Okay.

I grasped the point that you were talking out of your ass about Tressel's record.