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Why are they private, I thought they wanted publicity. I would also think that if some rogue group was spewing false info about blm they would emphatically deny it. 
Its common practice to register domains private, maybe not for high exposure corporations, as shown below, but for small organizations it can be.  They either dont want their identity known or they dont want people going after them.  Based on everything I see I would think its safe to conclude https://blmmanifesto.com is fake.  The only real reason its hosted in Hong Kong is because its near impossible to have it taken down by the US judicial process.  Based on that and that fact blacklivesmatter.com is older and hosted on US servers I would say https://blmmanifesto.com is fake. 

https://whois.domaintools.com/amazon.com





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Hostmaster, Amazon Legal Dept.




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Amazon Technologies, Inc.









 




https://whois.domaintools.com/blacklivesmatter.com






Registrant


Registration Private




Registrant Org


Domains By Proxy, LLC




Registrant Country


us




Registrar


GoDaddy.com, LLC
IANA ID: 146
URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
email.pgif

(p)
phone.pgif





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clientDeleteProhibited, clientRenewProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited




Dates


2,624 days old
Created on 2013-07-17
Expires on 2021-07-17
Updated on 2020-07-12



Whois History  




Name Servers


BILL.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM (has 19,966,035 domains)
DEMI.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM (has 19,966,035 domains)



  





Tech Contact


Registration Private
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com,
Scottsdale, Arizona, 85260, us
email.pgif

(p)
phone.pgif
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phone.pgif





IP Address


104.18.2.134 - 15 other sites hosted on this server


  




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- California - San Francisco - Cloudflare Inc.





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AS13335 CLOUDFLARENET, US (registered Jul 14, 2010)





Domain Status


Registered And Active Website




IP History


38 changes on 38 unique IP addresses over 7 years


  




Registrar History


1 registrar


  




Hosting History


6 changes on 7 unique name servers over 7 years


  








Website




Website Title


favicons
  500 SSL negotiation failed:



  




Response Code


500




Terms


513 (Unique: 250, Linked: 131)




Images


11 (Alt tags missing: 0)




Links


68   (Internal: 43, Outbound: 19)












 


 











 

Personally my opinion is there has been hypocrisy on both sides.  So the statements made by Democrats and Republicans during the Garland nominations are like offsetting penalties.  Same as now they just took opposite stances.  Of course each side is going to spin it to their advantage at the given time. 

The real difference to me is Republicans have or had  control of the senate in each instance.  Thats the difference and if the Democrats did have control the outcome would have been the same but their favor.  So this call for political ethics or morals is mute.  Dont be naive to believe the Democrats would wait.

I say confirm and appoint before the election or after doesnt matter.  It would be best to do it before the election unless any conservatives believe you can trust John Roberts when it comes to recounts or any other election issues which there is sure to be.

 
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This is what I found on the black lives matter.com page

BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.

We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.

We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.

We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.

We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation.

 
If it was founded because of TM’s murder, why do they hate cops. I didn’t think GZ was a police officer 

 
I will look on the site but it appears at first glance its not up there anymore or maybe never was.

I am pretty sure the founders of BLM are also https://m4bl.org/

I dont know for sure but maybe blacklivesmatter.com is the "follow our movement" site for donations and such therefore they keep their radical ideas off of it.  usually organizations use the .org not the .com so it would make sense they use .com for everyday searchers but who knows.  Here is what I found

The Movement for Black Lives (M4BL) is a coalition of more than 50 groups representing the interests of black communities across the United States.[1] Members include the Black Lives Matter Network, the National Conference of Black Lawyers, and the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights.[2] Endorsed by groups such as Color of Change, Race Forward, Brooklyn Movement Center, PolicyLink, Million Women March Cleveland, and ONE DC,[3] the coalition receives communications and tactical support from an organization named Blackbird.[4]

Following the killing of George Floyd, M4BL released the BREATHE Act, which called for sweeping legislative changes surrounding policing; the policy bill included calls to divest from policing and reinvest funds directly in community resources and alternative emergency response models.[5][6]








 
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If it was founded because of TM’s murder, why do they hate cops. I didn’t think GZ was a police officer 
I don't believe he was a LEO but a neighborhood watch guy. I also believe he was Hispanic and Jewish, which are 2 minority groups. 

Edit note after doing a Google search: His mom is from Peru, his dad German and he grew up Catholic. He identifies as Hispanic. 

 
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I don't believe he was a LEO but a neighborhood watch guy. I also believe he was Hispanic and Jewish, which are 2 minority groups. 

Edit note after doing a Google search: His mom is from Peru, his dad German and he grew up Catholic. He identifies as Hispanic. 
I'm White / Native American / English / bunch of other stuff and I identify as Doc Holliday because the movie Tombstone is my favorite

 
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Its difficult to say since both domains are privately registered which is the only way to know for sure.  There are a couple of red flags I notice.  One is the IP location is hosted in China, Hong Kong to be exact and its 91 days old .  Based on this I would lean to fake but no way to know for sure unless you can see who owns the domain.  The actual blm site is private as well.

https://whois.domaintools.com/blmmanifesto.com






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Dates


91 days old
Created on 2020-06-23
Expires on 2022-06-23
Updated on 2020-07-06



  




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111.90.157.37 - 83 other sites hosted on this server


  




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- Hong Kong - Hong Kong - Shinjiru Technology Sdn Bhd




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Registered And Active Website




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1 registrar


  




Hosting History


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Thanks for checking that out @DMAC!

 
I'm White / Native American / English / bunch of other stuff and I identify as Doc Holiday because the move Tombstone is my favorite
It's definitely my favorite western.  I'll watch it on any random occasion which often confuses my wife.  "Why are you watching this?"  My response is usually "cuz I'm your huckleberry"....followed by her look of confusion lol.  Or she'll say something simple like "I'm running to the store."  Then the response is "you're a daisy if ya do!" LOL!

 
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