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Dallas Cowboys Reportedly Showing Interest in Johnny Manziel

Dang BevoBlake, you're good. Heck, if I'm the CEO of BP and I have another well blow out I'm calling you to be my company spokesman. You obviously have the ability to spin not only just a turd in the Punchbowl but the smelliest, runniest turd in the Punchbowl!

 
I, too, am a lifelong Cowboy's fan. Like others, I've become much less invested since Jimmy Johnson left, but that's another story.

If Jerrah takes Johnny Football, it appears to me that we will benefit from watching Aggies squirm across Texas, because the Texans are their pro team, and Johnny is their man child. And quite honestly, I don't see the 'Boys as contenders again until Jerrah quits meddling, which will be never. So, if we watch JFF go to Dallas and party his way to professional oblivion, we will at least have the benefit of the inevitable meltdown.

 
Dang BevoBlake, you're good. Heck, if I'm the CEO of BP and I have another well blow out I'm calling you to be my company spokesman. You obviously have the ability to spin not only just a turd in the Punchbowl but the smelliest, runniest turd in the Punchbowl!
Jerry Jones Syndrome.  I can convince myself of anything related to Dallas.

 
If this were to happen I would seriously fold up all my cowboys gear and put it in the bottom of the closet until Skeletor sells the team.

 
From Peter King:

There’s a rumor (apparently faulty) making the rounds about the Eagles moving up to try to get Johnny Manziel. I wouldn’t pass it along if the person who told me wasn’t smart and, to this point, reliable. But I just can’t see it, and I have someone who would know better than the rumor source telling me it absolutely won’t happen. Which seems smart to me, seeing that Nick Foles’ 27 touchdowns and two interceptions and 119.2 passer rating would be pretty damned foolish to throw out the window for Manziel. I just put it out there as an example of the kind of stuff that makes the rounds when so much of what happens at this time of year is designed to be a misdirection play. As Bills GM Doug Whaley said Friday, speaking to western New York reporters: â€œIt’s finally one time where we can use you guys [reporters] to our advantage. There are things that you put out there to see if someone bites, and there are some things you put out there that are true. You have people read between the lines and you don’t want to show your hand. I’m sure everyone is doing the same thing.’’

Manziel stuff. Come to find out that one team, at the NFL scouting combine, spent the entire 15-minute individual interview period with Manziel talking only about his personal life and his run-ins with trouble. When the horn blew to signify he had to go to his next speed-date, Manziel asked team officials and coaches in the room, “Any football questions?†There were none … This, by the way, from one NFL offensive coordinator whose team will not be choosing a quarterback high in this draft: “If I had the first pick in the draft, I’d take Manziel.†…  I absolutely buy Dallas’ interest in Manziel. One: He is Jerry Jones’s kind of guy, and I believe Jones all along has had half an eye on Manziel, particularly if he could get him at a bargain position—say, the middle of the second round. I don’t believe Manziel will make it out of the first round, of course, but Jones could be sorely tempted at No. 16 overall if Manziel were there. Two: Tony Romo turned 34 last Monday, and his back is balky and twice surgically repaired, and Troy Aikman has been sounding the clarion call about the dangers of fooling with a bad back. Three: See number one

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/28/steve-gleason-tom-benson-saints-nfl-draft/5/

 
Sh*t is getting real.

Dallas Cowboys will ‘figure out a way’ to get Johnny Manziel, per report

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With the 2014 NFL draft just 10 days away, one of the more intriguing storylines to follow is the Dallas Cowboys’ growing interest in Johnny Football. Jerry Jones has reportedly been intrigued by the possibility of adding Johnny Manziel to the roster, and CBS analyst Jim Nantz recently passed along a rumor that strongly links the two sides.

If Nantz’s comments are to be believed, the Cowboys will be doing everything in their power to come away from Day 1 of the draft with Manziel tabbed as their quarterback of the future.

“I can say this, he’s going to be the guy everyone wants to see. I’ve heard this rumor for a month — the Cowboys will figure out a way to get Manziel,†Nantz said via ESPN Cleveland. “Wherever Manziel goes, there is going to be more clamoring about Johnny Manziel than there would be about Blake Bortles going No. 1 or [Jadeveon] Clowney going No. 1, or anyone else. This is a guy that there’s just a tremendous interest in everything he does.â€

The Cowboys are always one of the most talked about teams in the league, and selecting Manziel would certainly keep the team in the headlines.

Whether or not the Cowboys will make a trade up from the No. 16 spot to make Manziel their first-round pick remains to be seen, but it will be something worth watching as the draft draws closer.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/28/dallas-cowboys-johnny-manziel-2014-nfl-draft/?eref=sihp

 
I have said I will never forsake my first favorite team Americas Team my Dallas Cowboys. If that dumba$$ Jerry forsakes defense to grab Johnny after he overpaid Romo I will be completely devastated. Where is Jimmy when you need him?

 
This is cute. Albeit, far from realistic. To draft Manziel would be ignoring every single need we have on the Defensive Side of the Ball, which is plenty. Finding another Quarterback is a pressing matter as Romo only has a few years left in him. But my jaw would be on the floor if Dallas took Manziel. Out of shock. 

With that said, I'll play devil's advocate. If Johnny could go anywhere and succeed, it would be Dallas. His play-style is very similar to that of Romo's and he'd get two to three years on the bench to learn. That's if Romo isn't the victim of another brutal injury this season. On top of that, he'd be at home in Texas and would already have a really good following down here. But people around these parts don't like the idea of Manziel potentially doing well at the next level, so I won't continue any further with that thought.
The thought of Cowboy fans showing up to games in overalls painted in team colors and a stadium full of idiots whooping at every first down would be almost too much to pass up. Even better would be the stories of how the power of the University of Texas caused the NFL referees to conspire against the Cowboys to prevent Manziel from being successful.

I don't think Romo will be around much longer. Two back surgeries in a year is a huge warning sign. Manziel to Dallas would be a circus. It would complete the transformation of the team from what it was when Jerry bought it.

 
I agree two surgeries for Romo is definitely the beginning of the end for him. Shame on Jerry for the extension he sighted romo to. Still don't want Johnny. Him going to the texans make more sense. He played for the little brother in college and now he can play for the little brother in the pros

 
There's now so much smoke around this story that I've completely dismissed it as a pre-draft smokescreen. Too overplayed, IMO.

 
Jerry Jones it the P.T. Barnum of pro football. He does not care that much about winning. He is all about being a showman. Going after Manziel would fit the pattern, but what would he have to give up. It would remind us of what Minnesota did way back in the day.

I will re-express my view that as long as Jerry Jones is running the Cowboys, they will be losers.

 
Jerry Jones it the P.T. Barnum of pro football. He does not care that much about winning. He is all about being a showman. Going after Manziel would fit the pattern, but what would he have to give up. It would remind us of what Minnesota did way back in the day.

I will re-express my view that as long as Jerry Jones is running the Cowboys, they will be losers.
I agree. He could've had it all (money plus multiple dynasties) had he not insisted on meddling in everyday football affairs.

If anyone else were GM, he would've fired him 18 years ago.

 
Article from Skippy who loves Johnny. Skippy also loved Tim Tebow. Here's what Skip thought about Andrew Luck:

Skip Bayless        âœ” @RealSkipBayless Follow

I KNOW what Tebow can do in the NFL. I've seen it over/over/over. I'm not sure what Andrew Luck can do or if he has Tebow's It Factor

11:03 AM - 27 Jan 2012






Commentary

Texans have to take Manziel Manziel will be everything Tebow was. And wasn't.

Originally Published: May 2, 2014
By Skip Bayless | ESPN.com

I was right about Tim Tebow and I will be right on a much higher level about Johnny Manziel.

What Tebow kept pulling off late in games for the 2011 Denver Broncos, Manziel will make happen for all four quarters of NFL games. Manziel has Tebow's miracle-making will, electrified by far more quickness, speed, accuracy, radar and football IQ. Manziel has Tebow's rare intangibles heightened by rarer tangibles.

Tebow was a phenomenon. Manziel will be a perennial Pro Bowler, a Michael Vick fully capable of picking you to pieces from the pocket.

So please do not say I now have my "new Tebow." That's an insult to Manziel. I wrote a year ago that Manziel already was operating on a higher level than Tebow ever had -- after Manziel won the Heisman Trophy in his first year as a college starter, breaking Cam Newton's single-season SEC total offense record in two fewer games. Now, Manziel makes Blake Bortles and Teddy Bridgewater look like just guys.

Next season, Manziel will have the same national impact on some lucky city that Tebow did on Denver and its Broncos in 2011. And it will last.

Before Tebow's draft, I said I would take him late in the first round. Josh McDaniels, then Denver's coach, took him 25th. I said Tebow would never make a Pro Bowl, but that he would win games as a starting quarterback if given a chance in his college spread option offense.

Only one team did: a desperate 1-4 Denver, the year after McDaniels was fired.

Tebow led the Broncos to the AFC West title -- and the NFL team rushing title -- and beat Pittsburgh in a playoff game with a play for the ages, an 80-yard overtime touchdown pass. All Tebow did that season was have the NFL's best QBR in the final five minutes of games. Onward, Christian soldier.

Phenomenal.

Yet, after the Broncos landed Peyton Manning and traded Tebow to the Jets, he never got a chance to play quarterback. He lost confidence, visited his third or fourth independent passing coach, began to think too much about what had come so instinctively and regressed as a passer in his one preseason with New England.

This is how much better Manziel is: The Houston Texans, with this year's No. 1 overall pick, will forever regret it if they don't take the Texas kid with the movie-title nickname, Johnny Football.

Manziel built his legend at Texas A&M, just an hour-and-a-half drive from Reliant Stadium. About 300,000 A&M alums live in Houston, according to Manziel's QB coach, George Whitfield Jr. Johnny Football, the most electrifying college football player I ever saw, was born to win Super Bowls in Houston.

Manziel, with his infectious It Factor, would immediately turn the Texans into the It Team. They've been just a quarterback away for three seasons -- Matt Schaub completed lots of passes, but never THE pass. Manziel would soon make every player in that locker room -- and every fan in that stadium -- believe the Texans finally had a star who would make THE play. With Manziel next season, the Texans would go from 2-14 to 10-6.

If I ran the Texans, and Bill O'Brien, who has never been head coach for a down of NFL football, dug in and concluded Manziel was too short and too Hollywood and too headstrong for him, I'd thank my new coach and fire him. Manziel is far, far more valuable.

While ESPN's Todd McShay calls freakishly gifted pass-rusher Jadeveon Clowney a "once in 20 years player," Manziel is once in a lifetime. He'll be as great at his position as Clowney will be at his, but you have to take the face-of-the-franchise quarterback over the defensive end.

Like Tebow, Manziel certainly has his doubters -- but far fewer. Even the doubters fear he could turn into a star. "Boom or bust" is the way McShay and ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. view Manziel. Kiper won't even rank Manziel on his QB list because he's not sure what to make of him. In their latest mock drafts, both have Cleveland "rolling the dice" on Manziel at No. 4.

Kiper perfectly sums up Tebow vs. Manziel this way: "Before Tebow's draft, maybe 1 or 2 percent [of NFL evaluators] liked him. But with Manziel, it's 50-50."

Jon Gruden is all in. Gruden, ESPN's "Monday Night Football" analyst, has the advantage of studying all the top draftees for his Quarterback Camp. Gruden breaks down their college tape, grills them face-to-face on camera, tests them at the chalkboard, gets to know them during off-camera lunches, then puts them through the equivalent of a pro day on the field. He had Manziel for two days.

With the right coach in the right system, says Gruden, Manziel will be "a smash hit."

On "First Take" the other day, Gruden told me: "I think he can create offense unlike most guys I've ever seen. And he has guts, quickness, vision, and he loves the big arena, the big stage. Guys like him don't come across the map very often.

"I called plays for 14 years [in the NFL] and this is the kind of kid I'm looking for. This is the kind of quarterback I want to be around. I just get a certain feeling when I'm in the room with him. I think he permeates confidence throughout the entire building. He just has a certain magic to him."

Gruden said he couldn't quit rewinding plays as he watched Manziel's two games against Alabama, "what I think is the best defense in college football." Manziel beat Nick Saban's defense 29-24 two years ago in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, by making three fourth-quarter throws his coordinator at the time, Kliff Kingsbury, now Texas Tech head coach, told me "were as good as any I've been around [including three years in the NFL]."

Saban had an entire offseason to find the Johnny Football antidote, ahead of a Sept. 14 game in College Station, Texas. Manziel went for 562 total yards and 42 points. Yet an A&M defense that wound up allowing the 109th-most yards out of 123 Division I teams allowed Alabama 49 points.

Saban called Manziel as tough a competitor as he has faced in 40 years of coaching. Saban also faced Tebow twice (and also lost, then won).

You scoff that Manziel will never learn to be a pro pocket passer? Scoff at this: From the pocket, he completed 73 percent of his passes last season, best among QBs from BCS automatic-qualifier conferences.

You sniff he's too short? At 5-11¾, he's a little more than an inch taller than Seattle's Russell Wilson, now a Super Bowl winner. And Manziel's hands and feet are freakishly big -- Gruden marveled at how Manziel could catch and quick-throw a special ball without laces.

You roll your eyes that scrambling, gambling Johnny Football won't be able to dodge injury in the NFL? His shoulder was hurt against Auburn (which nearly won the national championship) only because Manziel knew (1) he had a chance to put his Aggies up 14 early in the fourth quarter and (2) his defense couldn't stop Auburn. So Manziel bolted hell-bent up the middle and took on two Tigers at the 2-yard line. A third fell on his shoulder.

He missed a series while, presumably, taking a pain-killing injection, then returned to complete his next nine passes. Only an uncalled horse-collar tackle on Manziel allowed Auburn to escape 45-41.

Manziel convinced Gruden he will not take that kind of a risk in pro football. I've heard the same thing from him -- that he will happily slide if cornered in the NFL. But he will torment defenses by occasionally running -- his plant-and-cut quickness in the open field will break some ankles and bruise some pro egos.

When you talk with Manziel, he can come across as the most mature 21-year-old you've ever met, a man of a boy. But of course, he also involved himself in several crazy-kid escapades the offseason after winning the Heisman, some involving excess alcohol. Lately, though, he has learned to party smarter and avoid social-media turnovers.

So how did a white kid from Tyler, Texas, manage to become such good buddies with LeBron James and Drake? Because they know unique talent. Cool attracts cool.

As Gruden says: "Why wouldn't you want LeBron James and Drake on your sideline?"

That contagious star power will come with the Johnny Franchise package. Chip Kelly gets it. Kelly says it "broke my heart" when Manziel broke a verbal commitment to play for Kelly at Oregon.

Rumors have flown that Eagles coach Kelly has been trying to figure out a way to trade up for Manziel. Kelly would be the best coaching/scheme fit for him. Imagine the rabbits Kelly could pull out of his hat with Johnny Football running his show.

So how, I asked Gruden, can the Texans afford not to take Johnny Manziel?

"I don't know," Gruden said. "Unless they want to play Case Keenum or Ryan Fitzpatrick."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10868265/skip-bayless-johnny-manziel-nfl

 
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