2017 Recruiting Thread Part 1
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Thank you Captain Obvious. If you haven't heard from the "Host" how could you be invited to anything? If you just showed up that would be awkward.... Who was that dude at the Army All American game that committed to Michigan and said he hadn't been talking to any of the UT coaches?
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If he feels that strongly about it then he should be tweeting that to Strong and Gilbert...not fans. I'd would offer him, but I don't think he would sign with the University of Texbound. Its still UT, but not quite there yet.
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I agree with you...
I've read on other boards that the Coaching staff is doing the "wait and see" approach with his senior year before they offer him.
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I think they just have several backs on the board before him. He's a baller tho
Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. But we are paying Charlie to make these decisions and in terms of recruiting he has done pretty damn well so far.
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Looks like Smart learned well from Saban. Coaches can come and go like they want, but not the players who aren't making millions of dollars.
Kirby Smart takes a disappointing stand on restricting transfers at Georgia
You just know Georgia fans want Kirby Smart to be different than Mark Richt, at least in the ways that matter to men and women who bark like Dawgs.
They want him to win more rivalry games. They want him to win more championships. They want him to stop letting Nick Saban wipe his feet on their hallowed hedges.
Smart already has obliged his new fan base, but in the worst possible way.
He's not going to be like Richt when it comes to transfers. On that issue, Smart is not going to put the players first. He's going to show them who's boss.
If you were a Georgia player under Richt and you wanted to leave, you were free to go to the destination of your choice. Richt famously said "life's too short" to restrict a young man's options if he believed the grass would be greener elsewhere.
Now, if you're a Georgia player and you want to leave the program, you're also free to go - except Smart can and will tell you where you can go, at least without penalty.
You want to transfer to Miami to play for Richt, the coach who recruited, signed and developed a relationship with you? Sorry. Smart doesn't want you to go play for the Hurricanes because he seems to fear a potential mass exodus to Coral Gables.
You want to transfer to play elsewhere in the SEC to attend a school closer to home? Nope. Smart doesn't want you to go to Florida or Auburn because he seems to fear you might come back to bite him on the field.
Actually, despite Georgia's about-face, you still can go to the school of your choice, but if your new home is on Smart's banned list, you'll have to pay your own way to go to school there for the next year.
It borders on unconscionable that a coach who makes millions of dollars at a school that makes tens of millions can impose such a financial penalty on a student-athlete.
Smart may no longer be a defensive coordinator, but early in his first year as a head coach, he seems awfully defensive.
Sadly, Smart's stance on transfers, which he outlined Saturday, isn't out of the ordinary among his head-coaching peers. Richt has been the outlier in recognizing, as he said a few years ago, that a football player's time in college is limited.
"I want every young man to have a successful time in his four- or five-year window to be able to go to college," he said. "So I don't want to impede a guy from realizing his goals and his dreams, wherever it is.
"I want our guys to stay, and sometimes when they do choose to leave, I still like the kid and I still want the kid to have success. If he thinks he will have success at a school you compete against, then so be it."
Richt's way is the right way. Smart's way isn't very wise.
If college football is supposed to be all about the student-athlete - as coaches and administrators like to tell us - there's no good reason to limit a player's options if he chooses to transfer.
He already faces a rather significant impediment. If a player transfers from one Football Bowl Subdivision school to another, barring a successful appeal for special circumstances, he still has to sit out a year before he can play again.
That's enough of a deterrent to prevent a significant portion of a team's roster from taking a hike.
Let's be honest. If you're doing right by your players as a coach, most of your players don't want to leave. If they do, it's probably because they don't like their position or their playing time. You lose if you force unhappy players to stick around.
Georgia's new approach, urged by Smart and adopted by AD Greg McGarity, is as wrong as it is common. It's especially disappointing coming from a coach who, during his tenure at Alabama, seemed to understand the value of the student-athlete. Smart developed strong relationships with his Crimson Tide players, and it's no coincidence they tended to play so hard for him.
This decision, which came to light because a Georgia tailback named A.J. Turman wants to transfer, is the worst possible policy change at the worst possible time.
College athletes are more aware of their power than ever. They have a better understanding than their predecessors of their absolute importance to a system that makes rich men of so many other people, including coaches such as Smart.
He's totally within his rights to make rules for them while they play for him. When he tries to control their futures, he's simply gone too far.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/03/kirby_smart_takes_a_disappoint.html#incart_river_index
Kirby Smart takes a disappointing stand on restricting transfers at Georgia
You just know Georgia fans want Kirby Smart to be different than Mark Richt, at least in the ways that matter to men and women who bark like Dawgs.
They want him to win more rivalry games. They want him to win more championships. They want him to stop letting Nick Saban wipe his feet on their hallowed hedges.
Smart already has obliged his new fan base, but in the worst possible way.
He's not going to be like Richt when it comes to transfers. On that issue, Smart is not going to put the players first. He's going to show them who's boss.
If you were a Georgia player under Richt and you wanted to leave, you were free to go to the destination of your choice. Richt famously said "life's too short" to restrict a young man's options if he believed the grass would be greener elsewhere.
Now, if you're a Georgia player and you want to leave the program, you're also free to go - except Smart can and will tell you where you can go, at least without penalty.
You want to transfer to Miami to play for Richt, the coach who recruited, signed and developed a relationship with you? Sorry. Smart doesn't want you to go play for the Hurricanes because he seems to fear a potential mass exodus to Coral Gables.
You want to transfer to play elsewhere in the SEC to attend a school closer to home? Nope. Smart doesn't want you to go to Florida or Auburn because he seems to fear you might come back to bite him on the field.
Actually, despite Georgia's about-face, you still can go to the school of your choice, but if your new home is on Smart's banned list, you'll have to pay your own way to go to school there for the next year.
It borders on unconscionable that a coach who makes millions of dollars at a school that makes tens of millions can impose such a financial penalty on a student-athlete.
Smart may no longer be a defensive coordinator, but early in his first year as a head coach, he seems awfully defensive.
Sadly, Smart's stance on transfers, which he outlined Saturday, isn't out of the ordinary among his head-coaching peers. Richt has been the outlier in recognizing, as he said a few years ago, that a football player's time in college is limited.
"I want every young man to have a successful time in his four- or five-year window to be able to go to college," he said. "So I don't want to impede a guy from realizing his goals and his dreams, wherever it is.
"I want our guys to stay, and sometimes when they do choose to leave, I still like the kid and I still want the kid to have success. If he thinks he will have success at a school you compete against, then so be it."
Richt's way is the right way. Smart's way isn't very wise.
If college football is supposed to be all about the student-athlete - as coaches and administrators like to tell us - there's no good reason to limit a player's options if he chooses to transfer.
He already faces a rather significant impediment. If a player transfers from one Football Bowl Subdivision school to another, barring a successful appeal for special circumstances, he still has to sit out a year before he can play again.
That's enough of a deterrent to prevent a significant portion of a team's roster from taking a hike.
Let's be honest. If you're doing right by your players as a coach, most of your players don't want to leave. If they do, it's probably because they don't like their position or their playing time. You lose if you force unhappy players to stick around.
Georgia's new approach, urged by Smart and adopted by AD Greg McGarity, is as wrong as it is common. It's especially disappointing coming from a coach who, during his tenure at Alabama, seemed to understand the value of the student-athlete. Smart developed strong relationships with his Crimson Tide players, and it's no coincidence they tended to play so hard for him.
This decision, which came to light because a Georgia tailback named A.J. Turman wants to transfer, is the worst possible policy change at the worst possible time.
College athletes are more aware of their power than ever. They have a better understanding than their predecessors of their absolute importance to a system that makes rich men of so many other people, including coaches such as Smart.
He's totally within his rights to make rules for them while they play for him. When he tries to control their futures, he's simply gone too far.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/03/kirby_smart_takes_a_disappoint.html#incart_river_index
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I'm in Georgia right now. Anyone have Beal's address so I can stop by and get his commitment to Texas while I'm here? Might as well do something useful in GA. Any other kids here I can get while here?
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Carson quote after his Baylor visit on his commitment to Texas
Right now I'm still committed to Texas. I don't know for sure in the future if things will change, but for right now it's Texas," Carson said of his commitment.
Right now I'm still committed to Texas. I don't know for sure in the future if things will change, but for right now it's Texas," Carson said of his commitment.
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I am so confused by Carson's statements.
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I can translate. I have a reservation at Texas, so if I get hurt during my senior year UT still honor their commitment. Once the season is over I can decide if I want to take some visits.
I don't know anything about this recruitment, but I think this move is genius. If I was a high school kid with multiple offers to play wherever I wanted, I would go the placeholder route but I would do so at a school that promises a great education (which Northwestern does). Then if I get hurt and can't play football, I can fall back on the education. If no injury, I can switch to a better football team. This assumes that there are legitimate teams that will hold a scholarship for you and that you have no problem going back on your word. Why have a placeholder at a school that can't give you a good education if you can't play football. This also puts a premium on schools that offer a great education and great football. We are seeing kids pick Stanford and Notre Dame for that reason.
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Normally I would agree, but I think Carson is so good that any team would take him regardless. I don't believe he needs to make reservations, he will always be a "take."
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