The Mirage of the Terry Saban Interview

[zzzizzzy]

Fear not brethren. For behold, I bring you good tidings.

Terry Saban's WSJ article means absolutely nothing, nada, diddly squat.

Let's suppose Nick Saban really wanted to stay at Alabama. If so, this is money making time. As rumors of UT swirl, a good agent turns the screws and procures a big pay raise (and make no mistake, Nick Saban has a good agent). If so, 'Bama smiles and writes the check. But until the negotiation is done, no wife spews-off to the WSJ that "we are staying put!" Those statements cost seven figures.

Now let's suppose that there is already a new extended contract with lots of extra cash executed by Alabama and Saban. Don't you think both parties would be sticking that contract under every reporter's nose in Dixie so that Big Nick can proceed on to his next NC via this week's Iron Bowl without the UT "distraction?"

Finally, let's suppose Nick Saban has already signed some agreements with some UT big money boys (as reported by McPhaul) which revert only if Saban doesn't follow-through on his verbal deal to become the next UT HC. Suppose that the decimal is to the right of eight figures on these deals and that Nick Saban would really like to wipe-out some old bad debts. Next assume that Terry loves Austin and doesn't so much Tuscaloosa. Finally, assume that Nick Saban desperately wants to leave Alabama with another NC like the stud HC that he is (BTW, show me where another college coach has ever left for another school after winning a NC -- if it has been done, I'm unaware of it. Sound like something that Nick Saban would do?). Do you think the Saban's might have their agent call-up his contacts at the WSJ and ask for an article with quotes from his star HC's wife so Terry could give her husband the cover he needed to focus on the task at hand? Interesting that this article was leaked at the beginning of the week of the biggest game of the year so far, isn't it?

Folks, I'm still 100% on NS to UT as HC. You should be too. If Saban wanted to quash the rumors he would. If Alabama had a contract, they would show it. Terry is doing what a good wife does. She's standing by her man. She's covering his ass, so he can do what a good husband does -- kick ass, take names, and bring home the bacon. When he's announced as the new UT HC, Terry will either offer no new interviews or she will say, "oh well, Nick wanted another challenge." And just like that the era of Nick Saban Texas Football will begin.

Hook'em fellow Horns!

 

[HookemDTX]

That's what we all needed! Thanks zzz.

 

[bayou vista horn]

good post zzz. what a soap opera this has turned out to be. season finale coming soon.

 

[orangeman01]

Fear not brethren. For behold, I bring you good tidings.
Terry Saban's WSJ article means absolutely nothing, nada, diddly squat.

Let's suppose Nick Saban really wanted to stay at Alabama. If so, this is money making time. As rumors of UT swirl, a good agent turns the screws and procures a big pay raise (and make no mistake, Nick Saban has a good agent). If so, 'Bama smiles and writes the check. But until the negotiation is done, no wife spews-off to the WSJ that "we are staying put!" Those statements cost seven figures.

Now let's suppose that there is already a new extended contract with lots of extra cash executed by Alabama and Saban. Don't you think both parties would be sticking that contract under every reporter's nose in Dixie so that Big Nick can proceed on to his next NC via this week's Iron Bowl without the UT "distraction?"

Finally, let's suppose Nick Saban has already signed some agreements with some UT big money boys (as reported by McPhaul) which revert only if Saban doesn't follow-through on his verbal deal to become the next UT HC. Suppose that the decimal is to the right of eight figures on these deals and that Nick Saban would really like to wipe-out some old bad debts. Next assume that Terry loves Austin and doesn't so much Tuscaloosa. Finally, assume that Nick Saban desperately wants to leave Alabama with another NC like the stud HC that he is (BTW, show me where another college coach has ever left for another school after winning a NC -- if it has been done, I'm unaware of it. Sound like something that Nick Saban would do?). Do you think the Saban's might have their agent call-up his contacts at the WSJ and ask for an article with quotes from his star HC's wife so Terry could give her husband the cover he needed to focus on the task at hand? Interesting that this article was leaked at the beginning of the week of the biggest game of the year so far, isn't it?

Folks, I'm still 100% on NS to UT as HC. You should be too. If Saban wanted to quash the rumors he would. If Alabama had a contract, they would show it. Terry is doing what a good wife does. She's standing by her man. She's covering his ass, so he can do what a good husband does -- kick ass, take names, and bring home the bacon. When he's announced as the new UT HC, Terry will either offer no new interviews or she will say, "oh well, Nick wanted another challenge." And just like that the era of Nick Saban Texas Football will begin.

Hook'em fellow Horns!

Umm, the guy is under contract and his contract gets reviewed after every season. Have you not paid attention to how his tenure at Alabama has gone. And if you haven't noticed every big game they've had there's been some rumor talk. Tamu, lsu and auburn. You should also look into Saban's lone regret in his career. How he handled the Miami to Alabama situation. You really think this guy will make that mistake again? The author is also an old friend of theirs from MSU. With all the let's suppose and assuming in your post it's clear you know how to work your reader into believing whatever scenarios you want them to. Nice post tho.

 

[Shaunsters]

When he says north of 8 figures...he's meaning 105,000,000 to be exact

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Umm, the guy is under contract and his contract gets reviewed after every season. Have you not paid attention to how his tenure at Alabama has gone. And if you haven't noticed every big game they've had there's been some rumor talk. Tamu, lsu and auburn. You should also look into Saban's lone regret in his career. How he handled the Miami to Alabama situation. You really think this guy will make that mistake again? The author is also an old friend of theirs from MSU. With all the let's suppose and assuming in your post it's clear you know how to work your reader into believing whatever scenarios you want them to. Nice post tho.

Just wondering. Do you post anything other than replies on Saban threads talking down the thought of Saban to Texas?

Good info OP. This is the stuff we want. The WSJ article didn't bother me. I agree that if Saban really wanted to squash the rumors they'd be leaking info of a new contract being discussed or worked on. Why hasn't Sexton done that?

 

[RealtorHorn]

Umm, the guy is under contract and his contract gets reviewed after every season. Have you not paid attention to how his tenure at Alabama has gone. And if you haven't noticed every big game they've had there's been some rumor talk. Tamu, lsu and auburn. You should also look into Saban's lone regret in his career. How he handled the Miami to Alabama situation. You really think this guy will make that mistake again? The author is also an old friend of theirs from MSU. With all the let's suppose and assuming in your post it's clear you know how to work your reader into believing whatever scenarios you want them to. Nice post tho.

Right. Alabama is not afraid of another (maybe bigger) gorilla courting their mate, so they will work at status quo and wait until contract season begins in February. Nick being courted by another school in the middle of the season happens every year. Bama is used to it and they aren't worried. Right.

 

[fake greggo]

So I'm assuming since you believe there is 100% chance saban comes to texas, you have placed a sizable wager with those idiots in Vegas.

 

[Randolph Duke]

Umm, the guy is under contract and his contract gets reviewed after every season. Have you not paid attention to how his tenure at Alabama has gone. And if you haven't noticed every big game they've had there's been some rumor talk. Tamu, lsu and auburn. You should also look into Saban's lone regret in his career. How he handled the Miami to Alabama situation. You really think this guy will make that mistake again? The author is also an old friend of theirs from MSU. With all the let's suppose and assuming in your post it's clear you know how to work your reader into believing whatever scenarios you want them to. Nice post tho.

Here is Nick Saban's contract. http://www.hornsports.com/docs/Nick_Saban_Contract.pdf

The only restrictions are that he has to inform Alabama if he speaks to another school about coaching their team, he has to give 30 days notice if he is leaving and if he goes to another school and he can't talk to anyone he was recruiting for a one year period (unless the new school was already recruiting the individual). No buy-out clause.

As for his life's regret, I've heard the quote before about how he handled previous job changes. I promise you that any man who is 62 years old and not in prison regrets what he didn't do in life, not what he did do. Ask anyone who is in the final chapter of their career and one of the final chapters of their life and they will tell you regrets are over passed up opportunities in life, not about what they wish they had handled better in their younger days. Think about it. Do you regret not doing a better job of shagging that girl you nailed the spring of your senior year as an undergrad, or do you regret not also nailing that friend of hers with the incredible rack? It's one thing to be spoken of in the same breath as Bear Bryant or DKR. It's another thing entirely to be spoken of in the same breath as both of them. Few men have that ability to stand alone. The one way to get over any regrets about doing something earlier in your life is to do something later in your life no one even conceived was possible.

I'm not a believer in Saban to Texas. If he was coming here, the whole matter would have been handled much more professionally. The school-girl drama of regents not being able to keep their mouths shut about earlier discussions is an embarrassment. No wonder our entire BOR locked into a drama-queen battle with each other and the Legislature. We need to impeach the whole bunch of them and replace them with competent professionals. It would be a refreshing change.

Bellmont is full of drama, our BOR is even worse and those clowns are trying to get a top level professional to get involved with all the crap? Never.gonna.happen.

We need to find one person who is competent and capable of handling the hiring and firing decisions within the athletic department. Bob Bowlsby managed to hire both Harbaugh and Shaw at Stanford. There are competent people out there who know how to conduct business in a quiet, professional manner. Obviously, Steve Patterson isn't capable of making competent hiring and firing decisions. If he were, we wouldn't have a bunch or drama queens who are unaccountable to the university or the program out with their skirts flapping in the wind squealing with teen-age excitement over Nick Saban.

Some adult needs to take control of this situation and manage the process. We need a clear voice of competence to take control of Bellmont. We need that person to speak in a clear and unequivocal voice and put an end to all the drama. Hopefully this will be the last week of all the teen-spirit scented beliebers writing Nick Saban's name in burnt orange pen every chance they get and dotting the "I" in "Nick" with a big heart. Enough. Its embarrassing. The program deserves better.

 

[DizzG]

Steve Pattersons first day on the job was yesterday I believe and you have already determined he isn't capable of handling a coaching search? Um ok. I think you are overstating the drama which is mainly contained to Texas fans discussing on message boards. Outside the internet fan board arena I don't think the drama in the offices of the decision makers is filled with the drama that's being stated.

as to wanting one person having the sole power to hire and fire a head football coach at a program like Texas I dont believe that will ever happen. The position is too big and has too much impact on the school to give an AD sole and COMPLETE authority to do what he wants regarding that position without input from other areas. I dont believe any top 5 level football program gives their AD sole power over to do whatever they want with the football program without any other influence. Some will mention Foley at Florida but you can bet their are regents, BOR members, BMD's, etc that all have input into that position there as well.

As to the Saban story going away - I dont think its going anywhere. Its not over by a longshot and will only intensify once Mack steps down

 

[Randolph Duke]

Steve Pattersons first day on the job was yesterday I believe and you have already determined he isn't capable of handling a coaching search? Um ok. I think you are overstating the drama which is mainly contained to Texas fans discussing on message boards. Outside the internet fan board arena I don't think the drama in the offices of the decision makers is filled with the drama that's being stated.
As to the Saban story going away - I dont think its going anywhere. Its not over by a longshot and will only intensify once Mack steps down

The WSJ is a bit more than just an internet message board, as is ESPN, etc. Google "Saban Texas."

Patterson didn't just find out yesterday morning that he was going to be AD at Texas. I can't believe he wasn't acting in any way to gain control of Bellmont. As I understand things (and as has been reported on HS http://www.hornsports.com/forums/burnt-orange-board-bob-57/cleaning-house-3141/ ), notices were given last week to AD staff that they would no be with the program moving forward. Obviously, someone has been exerting some level of control over certain situations within Bellmont. I find it astonishing that whoever has been managing the changes isn't the individual who will be managing the entire program moving forward. I find it even more astonishing that whoever has been managing institutional change within Bellmont over the past few weeks hasn't been able to gain any control over the situation involving the highest paid university employee (and state employee), the public face of the main driver of the nearly $200 million athletics program and the public image of how business is conducted at the University of Texas. Maybe things are more screwed up within Bellmont than we realize.

Regardless of who has been driving the change over the past few weeks, assuming Patterson has had zero involvement with the program (for the sake of argument) it's past time for the drama to end and for him to regain control of the image of how matters are handled at UT.

 

[BevoBlake]

Right. Alabama is not afraid of another (maybe bigger) gorilla courting their mate, so they will work at status quo and wait until contract season begins in February. Nick being courted by another school in the middle of the season happens every year. Bama is used to it and they aren't worried. Right.

I agree with everything you just said. But the main reason you're getting a "Like" from me is for the Jennifer Lawrence gif. Can't. Get. Enough.

 

[ATX89]

Orangeman01 is gonna have an absolute crap fit if Saban comes to Texas. Bizarre how she only appears on the board to shout down Saban rumors. She apparently has not placed any wagers or bet her monthly rent check on Saban staying at Bama, but continues to urge others to wager otherwise. I continue to believe she is either a troll or an existing Texas Athletic Dept employee who knows her days are numbered.

 

[UTK66]

Anybody seen my pants? Can't find'em.

 

[HookemHorns]

I posted this on OB. It's appropriate for this thread:

I don't think this was an accident. It is intentional IMO. Patterson probably made a phone call to have the heat cool down and allow for a smooth transition. The Saban's said they were staying BEFORE the position was vacant. Hence mack was not pushed out because of Saban.

Also consider that Patterson's camp leaked that he turned down UT a week before accepting the job. It's a misinformation game

 

[Hornitos]

zzzizzzy, I read the WSJ article and came away with the same exact impression you did.

 

[Bevo11]

So I'm assuming since you believe there is 100% chance saban comes to texas, you have placed a sizable wager with those idiots in Vegas.

What's with you and orangeman01? Does placing money on this instantly validate it for you?

Weird.

 

[ATX89]

What's with you and orangeman01? Does placing money on this instantly validate it for you? Weird.

Agreed. Bizarre

 

[fake greggo]

"What's with you and orangeman01? Does placing money on this instantly validate it for you?

Weird."

Of course not. I'm just looking for an answer or even a theory as to why Vegas thinks it is a very big long shot on saban coaching at Texas next year. Vegas isn't in the habit of losing money and those buildings didn't build themselves. Do you guys really believe that "insiders" have a better feel for things than Vegas does?