Texas narrows Longhorns coaching field By Kirk Bohls, Brian Davis

[austinite]

IMO
Baylor’s Art Briles < Baylor will do what they need to to keep him 10% chance of being our next HC

Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher < Would be hard to get after winning (playing) MNC using UT as leverage 2% chance

Louisville’s Charlie Strong < supposedly tight with AD (is eying UF?) 25%

Vanderbilt’s James Franklin < Would be our last choice, I hope. 63%

Alabama's Nick Saban < ship has sailed;-( .1%

I'm expecting James Franklin to be our next HC.

You are expecting James Franklin because you like him or because you've considered all possible options and he's the only one available?

Personally I'd rather leave the position open than offering it to Franklin.

 

[CardSID]

IMO
Baylor’s Art Briles < Baylor will do what they need to to keep him 10% chance of being our next HC

Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher < Would be hard to get after winning (playing) MNC using UT as leverage 2% chance

Louisville’s Charlie Strong < supposedly tight with AD (is eying UF?) 25%

Vanderbilt’s James Franklin < Would be our last choice, I hope. 63%

Alabama's Nick Saban < ship has sailed;-( .1%

I'm expecting James Franklin to be our next HC.

Could see it play out this way, not that I want it to, but could be the way it plays out.

 

[DizzG]

IMO
Baylor’s Art Briles < Baylor will do what they need to to keep him 10% chance of being our next HC

Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher < Would be hard to get after winning (playing) MNC using UT as leverage 2% chance

Louisville’s Charlie Strong < supposedly tight with AD (is eying UF?) 25%

Vanderbilt’s James Franklin < Would be our last choice, I hope. 63%

Alabama's Nick Saban < ship has sailed;-( .1%

I'm expecting James Franklin to be our next HC.

Briles would crawl to Austin if offered. The saban ship hasn't sailed. Is still UTs #1 per info yesterday

Don't know what happens but a whole lot of people would have to say no before franklin

The last person people should look to info is Kirk bohls

 

[Baron Von Tejas]

You are expecting James Franklin because you like him or because you've considered all possible options and he's the only one available?
Personally I'd rather leave the position open than offering it to Franklin.

I think Franklin is the most likely outcome. I would prefer 1st tier Saban, 2nd tier Strong, Briles, Fisher, 3rd tier Franklin.

 

[sdhornesq]

I think Franklin is the most likely outcome. I would prefer 1st tier Saban, 2nd tier Strong, Briles, Fisher, 3rd tier Franklin.

If Franklin is truly the best available option we have slunk back to where we were when Mack took over from Mackovic. Franklin is Mack, but with less wins under his belt.

Aim higher and force UT to be turned down before you settle again.

 

[Longhornleghorn]

I think Franklin is the most likely outcome. I would prefer 1st tier Saban, 2nd tier Strong, Briles, Fisher, 3rd tier Franklin.

I don't think any of us will know until it goes down, but I would be shocked if it was Franklin. He seems like a very good coach, but he does not have some of the qualifications needed for the Texas job: championship skins on the wall, exposure to the limelight of running a big program, media savviness. Franklin only has three years HC experience and is 11-13 in the SEC. Yes, that is a step up from Vandy's historical record, but it is hardly overly impressive.

Guys like Strong and Briles aren't going to turn down $5-6M at Texas if offered the job. If Saban, Fisher, and Harbaugh (either) are not options, I think we'll end up with Strong, Briles, or maybe a candidate like Mora before Franklin.

 

[PropositionJoe]

Strong is at 3.7. I don't think jurich would bat an eye at getting him up to 5 after this season.

Briles is at 4.5 or so.

I think the minimum asking price to get those guys interested would have to be at least 6.5

 

[java]

Strong is at 3.7. I don't think jurich would bat an eye at getting him up to 5 after this season.
Briles is at 4.5 or so.

I think the minimum asking price to get those guys interested would have to be at least 6.5

And your point is?

Joe, I know you are an Ag, and so do most of the folks here. You are a pretty good Ag, from what I can tell; however, you underestimate Texas. You always have, and you always will.

Hook 'em!

 

[Baron Von Tejas]

Guys like Strong and Briles aren't going to turn down $5-6M at Texas if offered the job. If Saban, Fisher, and Harbaugh (either) are not options, I think we'll end up with Strong, Briles, or maybe a candidate like Mora before Franklin.

Honestly, I hope you are right.

At the end of the day how many more millions do you need to he happy? If a coach has a good thing going, is it worth the turmoil to move? It would be easier just to get a pay raise and stay put, and we see that happening with all these extensions. USC not making a splash hire is a bad indicator for us too.

 

[PropositionJoe]

Not intending to underestimate Texas. But I don't think money will be a driving factor for a coach. I think the offer will be enough to take money off the table as being an issue...meaning it will come down to whether the coach wants to be at Texas over their current job. And I think the minimum asking price for those two guys to get to that point in the convo is 6.5

The question I have is whether the horns are going to be willing (not able) to pay a million more than what Mack is making for a guy like Charlie strong, when there's a guy like jim mora that could be had for 5 mil easy. And I don't know that strong is necessarily a better coach than mora.

Briles is worth the 6.5. I don't think strong is.

Does that make sense? Again not intending to underestimate anyone. Just asking.

 

[TexasFirst1]

At this point, all above mentioned are better than Mack Brown. Next weekend will be fun!

SF, UT could hire you as head football coach and win more than two championships in the next 16 years.

 

[hornonthe40]

In my opinion, the Saban ship sailed last spring. I'm hoping for Fisher. Won't be to disappointed if it's Strong or Briles.

 

[TheDeuceWVU]

On thing I've noticed with reporters out there is the amount of smoke they put out.

Of course it fits the agenda.

 

[Randolph Duke]

Strong is at 3.7. I don't think jurich would bat an eye at getting him up to 5 after this season.
Briles is at 4.5 or so.

I think the minimum asking price to get those guys interested would have to be at least 6.5

You seem to be missing one very important point - We're Texas. $6.5 mil/ yr (an incremental $1.0 mil/yr) isn't meaningful to the UT budget.

I'm sure you have seen these lists:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45efmkf/1-texas-longhorns-3/

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/

Our football revenues alone are greater than the entire athletics budgets of all but 8 of the 351 NCAA Division 1 schools. Texas' football revenues are over double the football revenues of schools like USC or TAMU. They were over four times the revenues reported by Baylor or Louisville. Just the profit generated by the UT athletics department after all expenses and even after sending over $5 mil to the academic side is greater than the entire gross football revenue of Baylor or Louisville. http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

We aren't about to lose out on getting the right coach over what amounts to a rounding error in our budget.

 

[PropositionJoe]

I completely agree that Texas has a ton of money and can pay a significant amount for any coach.

But just because you can pay 6.5 for a coach does that mean you should pay that much for a guy like strong? Is charlie strong worth a million more than Mack (and again all of this is based on my guess on what it would take to get charlie out of Louisville)?

I don't think he is. I think there are coaches that could be had for a better value.

 

[DizzG]

FSU is not going to match what Texas would offer fisher money wise. They just won't. The don't have the resources Texas has to pay a coach that much and they won't.

If for some reason saban doesn't come (and no the ship didnt sail last spring) fisher will leave a lot of money on the table if he stays. The search won't get past Briles IMO worst case.

Guys like franklin , strong etc are down the list

 

[austinite]

You seem to be missing one very important point - We're Texas. $6.5 mil/ yr (an incremental $1.0 mil/yr) isn't meaningful to the UT budget.
I'm sure you have seen these lists:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45efmkf/1-texas-longhorns-3/

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/

Our football revenues alone are greater than the entire athletics budgets of all but 8 of the 351 NCAA Division 1 schools. Texas' football revenues are over double the football revenues of schools like USC or TAMU. They were over four times the revenues reported by Baylor or Louisville. Just the profit generated by the UT athletics department after all expenses and even after sending over $5 mil to the academic side is greater than the entire gross football revenue of Baylor or Louisville. http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

We aren't about to lose out on getting the right coach over what amounts to a rounding error in our budget.

So where would you draw the line of "too much for a football coach like Saban"?

 

[roanokehorn]

So where would you draw the line of "too much for a football coach like Saban"?

Bill Belichek....I wouldn't pay any college coach the same amount as the Patriots coach.