Possible Location of New Arena

[doc longhorn]

You get students and non-students to attend games if you win.  More importantly, they will especially attend if the program wins on a consistent basis.

Winning solves everything - football, basketball, baseball, women's softball, women's basketball and women's volleyball. 

 

[doc longhorn]

The economics of a joint arena become difficult to work out because it is difficult, if not impossible, to think of another warm weather American city with a population in excess of two million without a pro franchise that has a similar arena to use as a model. Warm weather means outdoor venues have a longer season where they compete for bookings with an indoor arena and the lack of a pro sports franchise alters PSL revenue, revenue from suites, corporate naming rights, etc. Austin isn't demographically suitable for an NHL franchise if Houston isn't and Holt, Alexander and Cuban will fight like hell to keep a NBA franchise out of Austin. 

Oh, I beg to differ, my friend.  You keep overlooking the basic premise of any business - money.

Never assume an NBA franchise must be anchored to just one city. The NBA certainly doesn't assume this.  Not where money is concerned.

San Antone is only 89 miles from Austin - may as well be a sub-division. 

 

[streettopeschel]

So holt is going to go halves with Austin? What are you implying?

 

[North Texas Golfer]

You get students and non-students to attend games if you win.  More importantly, they will especially attend if the program wins on a consistent basis.

Winning solves everything - football, basketball, baseball, women's softball, women's basketball and women's volleyball. 

A lot of truth right here summed up in 3 simple, to the point, sentences.

 

[Chris Flanagan]

The field house in Kansas seats 16K+. It's not an intimate gym in Hickory. It's as big as the Drum.

They care. Students and others go to games in snow. They live for it. We can't get kids to walk from Jester in 70 degree weather.

Yall that act like a new arena is going to make our students and fans turn into duke or KU are pissin in the wind.

To be fair, Kansas is in the KC metro area so they get many people to the game even during breaks. Texas is a football first school so a new arena isn't going to change the fandom. I believe the fandom is there, it just likes to watch on TV.

A new arena would have to be 18-22k easily which unless you build it in a way that makes it look goo, will look like crap if Texas doesn't turn out for games.

 

[doc longhorn]

So holt is going to go halves with Austin? What are you implying?

An exhibition here, and exhibition there, a league game here, a league game there and what do you know - the Spurs now own Austin as well as San Antone.  Ka ching, ka ching!

Easy.

 

[castlebravo1]

You get students and non-students to attend games if you win.  More importantly, they will especially attend if the program wins on a consistent basis.

Winning solves everything - football, basketball, baseball, women's softball, women's basketball and women's volleyball. 

A lot of truth right here summed up in 3 simple, to the point, sentences.

We've been winning.  Since 1988, and we're still having this conversation.  UT is just not a basketball school and students don't give a crap about basketball unless things have changed since I was there in the 80s.  Also, having every game broadcast on LHN or other networks even more disincentivises people from going.  Add to that that Austin, being a great city, offers better things to do than sitting in an arena watching basketball.  

 

[doc longhorn]

We've been winning.  Since 1988, and we're still having this conversation.  UT is just not a basketball school and students don't give a crap about basketball unless things have changed since I was there in the 80s.  Also, having every game broadcast on LHN or other networks even more disincentivises people from going.  Add to that that Austin, being a great city, offers better things to do than sitting in an arena watching basketball.  

With all due respect, I disagree.  We've won nothing in basketball.  Oh, we've been to tournaments - but so?  How many national titles do we have?  the product is important as well.  Remember Phi Slamma Jamma at UH?  Always sold out - even when traveling.

When we were in the SWC and even battling for conference titles, we were always sold out at Gregory.  What if we were always national contenders and winning one every now and then.  Think this would spark more interest?  Why does Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and GONZAGA (for Gods sake) always sell out?  Three of those schools are football schools.

How about our national championship baseball teams - always sold out. How about women's basketball and volleyball teams - always sold out.  When they were in the title hunt, the fans came.

I went even further in my claim - CONSISTENT winning begets consistent fan support.

Check DKR.  We ain't winning as much and the fan support is waning.  And this is football.