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[Rotty22]

 I grew up in the valley where I was the minority and got bullied multiple times because I wasn’t Hispanic. 

What??? I find that hard to believe.

 

[drgilbert]

What??? I find that hard to believe.

Why?  My most vivid memory was sixth grade. I was walking down a hall with one of the Chapa Twins and multiple Hispanic kids told me to leave the hall cause it was only for Mexicans. I’ve been held down and had to choose between wanting to be white or Mexican. 

 

[Rotty22]

Why?  My most vivid memory was sixth grade. I was walking down a hall with one of the Chapa Twins and multiple Hispanic kids told me to leave the hall cause it was only for Mexicans. I’ve been held down and had to choose between wanting to be white or Mexican. 

Hopefully one or both of the Chapa twins stood up for you.

 

[Rotty22]

DBut82, because you're a friend, I'm going to say this to you.

Do not ever attempt to read The Atlantic again. It is a trash organization, a collection of activists posing as journalists. I saw the link and didn't click for that very reason.

Nothing they would say would surprise me because they will just say anything.

If you like, I am willing to dissect that story from paragraph 1–on (although I have better things to do). I would eat it up like a wolf on a lamb. Why? Because I can. If it were worth spitting on, I wouldn't be able to do that.

I realize you'll read whatever you want, but as a friend, I warn you the same as your mother did when she talked about junk food to you – "junk in, junk out."

I usually use https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-atlantic/ to see how biased or factual a website is.  The atlantic seems to better than others.

 

[TexCoyote]

Kinda late to be drawing a line in the sand, isn't it? Hasn't UT said it would meet with students/athletes to discuss the requests?

If you're not happy here, leave. We need LB'ers but we don't need another year from Mitchell like last year (he almost left the team, but for other reasons).

What gets me is alot of the players I have heard making statements haven’t been here very long. I don’t want this to sound combative, but before they decide to come here they research, take multiple visits, meet all the players, meet all the coaches, tour the campus, meet professors in their field of study.........see everything and come here and then in a year or so everything is terrible. I really wonder why they came here. Is Texas perfect? No. But it is one of the top educations in the country with some of the best facilities in the country and people treat them like rock stars. I don’t think any place is going to be found to be perfect. These kids have a great chance to get a degree from The University of Texas. I would have loved to go to Texas but my parents couldn’t afford to send me there. This statement isn’t to get into a confrontation  but if a kid isn’t happy here I would like to see them transfer to someplace that can make them happy.  I want the kids that want to be Longhorns be here. There’s plenty of kids that would love to be here. Anyway we’ll see I guess 

 

[drgilbert]

Hopefully one or both of the Chapa twins stood up for you.

We were outnumbered at least 6 to 2. Thank goodness my friends in athletics had my back and helped me out. I remember anytime in Spanish class I was made fun of multiple times cause I couldn’t roll my R’s. 

 

[primal defense]

@HornsUp, don't "stop". I know these conversations can get frustrating but they need to be had. It's ok if we don't all agree but I believe if we each come from a place of understanding that progress is made. @primal defense, I love hearing your views as well. I'm not the most articulate and sometimes maybe I don't get out what I'm trying to. But I appreciate you guys and everyone's views. 

The reason everything is changing is because of the smart phone. Back in the old days, cops could do what they want with black people and it was their fault. That's why they passed the crime bill by saying this was against super predators.

Rodney King showed the future since a guy from his house had a camera and recorded police beating the crap out of him. Now smart phones are recording these killings and now white people are fed up which is why 57% of Americans support Black Live Matters.

The video that really got to me was Sandra Bland five years ago. 

 

[primal defense]

 

[Sirhornsalot]

39 minutes ago, primal defense said:

The reason everything is changing is because of the smart phone. Back in the old days, cops could do what they want with black people and it was their fault. That's why they passed the crime bill by saying this was against super predators.

Rodney King showed the future since a guy from his house had a camera and recorded police beating the crap out of him. Now smart phones are recording these killings and now white people are fed up which is why 57% of Americans support Black Live Matters.

The video that really got to me was Sandra Bland five years ago. 

I don't think 50-whatever percent would support that organization if they did just a little research on them. Start with reading their manifesto, posted on their website.

Apparently, Black Lives Matter but Jews don't. Ironic that an organization existing because of racism, would itself, practice racism and make it part of their manifesto.

"Pigs in a Blanket, Fry'em Like Bacon" or "What do we want? Dead Cops! When do we want it? Now!" doesn't endear them to many folks, either.

 

[primal defense]

 

[primal defense]

I don't think 50-whatever percent would support that organization if they did just a little research on them. Start with reading their manifesto, posted on their website.

Apparently, Black Lives Matter but Jews don't. Ironic that an organization existing because of racism, would itself, practice racism and make it part of their manifesto.

"Pigs in a Blanket, Fry'em Like Bacon" or "What do we want? Dead Cops. When do we want it? Now!" doesn't endear them to many folks, either.

You make a fine sponsor for Horn Sports.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

You make a fine sponsor for Horn Sports.

Why? Because I responded to you? Because you didn't like it? Good gawd, get a band aid.

And don't get your feelings hurt. Go read the manifesto yourself. Don't take my word for it. Pretty easy to find.

 

[83Dee]

6 hours ago, primal defense said:

Can I agree that black lives matter / have every bit as much worth and value as white lives - and not agree with left wing fiscal policies, defunding the police and dissolving the traditional family?  Probably not in many peoples eyes.  
 

in other words, of course black lives matter - but I separate the statement from the organization and the entirety of what they want.  

 

[83Dee]

You make a fine sponsor for Horn Sports.

Why don’t you logically address what he said rather than this?  Not agreeing with the organization “black lives matter” doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t think black lives matter.  
 

read the BLM manifesto - and what they are demanding if you haven’t yet done so  

 

[DBut82]

I honestly believe that EVERY race has people that don’t care and are looking for the easy way out. I grew up in the valley where I was the minority and got bullied multiple times because I wasn’t Hispanic. There were low income housing projects down there usually predominantly Hispanic. I fully agree that Black America has been held back and discriminated against. Maybe those that don’t vote are scared or they just don’t think their vote matters. My answer to your question is yes to both but for all ethnicities. I work with multiple minorities that bust their butt and try to improve themselves and I work with lazy irresponsible white people. It may be harder for a black man to succeed than a white man but it’s not impossible. Use yourself as an example, no matter how difficult the circumstances you persevered. I’m not sure I got my point across because I’m coming from my point of view. When I give evaluations and look to promote someone I don’t see skin color or sex, I look at their work ethic. Racism, hatred and prejudice are all sins that I wish we could rid ourselves of. 

Thank you for sharing Dr.!  I truly appreciate it and understand your point.  

 

[DBut82]

I just been reading up.  My brain is tired.  Good night guys.

I am learning some stuff though I will admit I do know much about gerry mandering etc.

Good conversations @DBut82

Hookem.

I totally understand DMAC!  I appreciate your input as well!  I don't know much, if anything about gerry mandering either but will definitely research it.

 

[DBut82]

I usually use https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-atlantic/ to see how biased or factual a website is.  The atlantic seems to better than others.

Thanks for that link Rotty!  I've always wondered if there was a website (sorta like snopes) that you could basically check the integrity of these websites.  I appreciate it.

 

[DBut82]

10 hours ago, TexCoyote said:

I won't begin to understand what he is personally feeling because I've never been in his position BUT the athletes as a group stepped to the administration with concerns.  And from what I've read the administration is willing to listen.  They're statement started with "What starts here changes the world".  It would seem to me that he would want to be a part of that change. And he's blessed to have a platform that he could use invoke that change that could eventually bring about equality. No one said this was easy, Juwan.  

 

[DMAC]

A little off topic but I really wish the US would take all the foreign aid we spend out of the budget and direct it internally.  Invest that money into inner cities, help the homeless and the poverty stricken areas.  I believe this would address some of these racial issues from an economic standpoint and reduce crime.  We give away billions of dollars every year.  Its insanity we borrow money then give it away to foreign countries.  Invest that money in our country.  Help the people that need it.  How much money have we spent on foreign wars and NATO?  I honestly don't know but I am pretty sure its in the trillions.

We give WHO like 900 million dollars a year.  I mean seriously that's just stupidity. 

I say this because surely we can all AGREE to help our fellow Americans, especially minorities, first.  Yea its Nationalism but what country out there gives us foreign aid?  Name one country which isn't nationalist?  I haven't researched much of this so it may come back to bite me. 

We are so busy fighting each other and its ripping us all apart to point the toxicity level is draining. 

I know Trump despises foreign aid.  Hes a nationalist and a patriot.  Notice I did not say White Nationalist.  Not even sure what that means.  Its fashionable to splice words together to alter meanings.  Country first isnt a bad thing folks.  I want to see every American flourish

https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd

 

[DMAC]

Trump and Biden can start by donating half of their campaign money to inner cities areas which need development.  Pretty sure thats breaking campaign finance laws but IMO public support would be there.  Just throwing out ideas.